An unexpected change in a page URL

I used FrontPage 2003 to build my website. A small problem has emerged that
probably won't hurt anything, but I'd like to know what happened and how to
correct it.

My website is www.hairloss-reversible.com. All the pages on my local web are
OK, but the URL on one page online has a different URL

My Approach Continued has this address - my_approach_2.htm on my local web.
But online this same page now has the address -
http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/my_approach_%202.htm.

My question is - how did this %202 sneak into the address? How can I get it
out, and is it necessary to get it out?

I've asked several questions in the past year on this forum and always got
helpful answers. Thanks everyone for the expertise.

Re: An unexpected change in a page URL

Mr. Desperate -

You've got an accidental space character between the underscore and the 2 in
your file name (i.e.
my_approach_ 2.htm, where there's a space before the 2). This space character is
being translated as %20. Just remove it.

HTH,
Craig

Tommy Desperate wrote:

> I used FrontPage 2003 to build my website. A small problem has emerged that
> probably won't hurt anything, but I'd like to know what happened and how to
> correct it.
>
> My website is www.hairloss-reversible.com. All the pages on my local web are
> OK, but the URL on one page online has a different URL
>
> My Approach Continued has this address - my_approach_2.htm on my local web.
> But online this same page now has the address -
> http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/my_approach_%202.htm.
>
> My question is - how did this %202 sneak into the address? How can I get it
> out, and is it necessary to get it out?
>
> I've asked several questions in the past year on this forum and always got
> helpful answers. Thanks everyone for the expertise.

Re: An unexpected change in a page URL

That's exactly what my problems is. Now of course I want to fix it without
messing up my navigation structure. I went to the Page Properties box of the
offending page and tried to insert the 2 next to the underscore in the
Location field. This can't be done. Where can I go to make the edit that will
correct my problem and not cause another?

"Craig Schiller" wrote:

> You've got an accidental space character between the underscore and the 2 in
> your file name (i.e.
> my_approach_ 2.htm, where there's a space before the 2). This space character is
> being translated as %20. Just remove it.

Re: An unexpected change in a page URL

Go to the navigation layout and rename the page there.

Craig

Tommy Desperate wrote:

> That's exactly what my problems is. Now of course I want to fix it without
> messing up my navigation structure. I went to the Page Properties box of the
> offending page and tried to insert the 2 next to the underscore in the
> Location field. This can't be done. Where can I go to make the edit that will
> correct my problem and not cause another?
>
> "Craig Schiller" wrote:
>
> > You've got an accidental space character between the underscore and the 2 in
> > your file name (i.e.
> > my_approach_ 2.htm, where there's a space before the 2). This space character is
> > being translated as %20. Just remove it.

Re: An unexpected change in a page URL

First of all, the %20 is a hex value the parser imputes into the URL when it
is given a URL with a space in the file name which brings me around to the
second point.

Do not use spaces in the file name when naming web pages and do not name
them using goofy reminders to yourself. That goofy naming may help you
remember what you are doing but it is not doing anything useful for your
customers and does nothing to help your pages get indexed by the search
engines.

Who for example would ever use the words 'my' or 'approach' to find
something they are looking for? Its also considered poor form to use
underscores and dashes in file names for web pages as the underline hides
them which results in frustrated users not remembering or typing correct
values. Underscores used to be helpful for separating search terms used in
the file name but there is some argument as to the value of doing so now
that search engines are using other page ranking strategies that I remind
anybody reading this are trade secrets and subject to the guesswork of most
selling search engine optimization (SEP) -- which is usually a scam -- which
can only really be reliably done by those that spend a lot of time studying
and guessing what the search engines are actually doing behind the scenes
and then conducting incessant repetitive testing of those assumptions which
is why effective SEO is costly.


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"Tommy Desperate" wrote in
message news:D13DA8D6-51DD-40EA-B4A5-B0D74AD333E1@microsoft.com...
>I used FrontPage 2003 to build my website. A small problem has emerged that
> probably won't hurt anything, but I'd like to know what happened and how
> to
> correct it.
>
> My website is www.hairloss-reversible.com. All the pages on my local web
> are
> OK, but the URL on one page online has a different URL
>
> My Approach Continued has this address - my_approach_2.htm on my local
> web.
> But online this same page now has the address -
> http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/my_approach_%202.htm.
>
> My question is - how did this %202 sneak into the address? How can I get
> it
> out, and is it necessary to get it out?
>
> I've asked several questions in the past year on this forum and always got
> helpful answers. Thanks everyone for the expertise.

Re: An unexpected change in a page URL

"clintonG" wrote:

Its also considered poor form to use
> underscores and dashes in file names for web pages as the underline hides
> them which results in frustrated users not remembering or typing correct
> values.

Could someone recommend an article on the Internet or a book that gives
advice on effective file names and web page names.

ClintonG, Is it also considered poor form to use hyphens in file names for
web pages?

Re: An unexpected change in a page URL

I should not have lumped hyphens in to the comment regarding underscores as
hyphens can be read when used in a URL, i.e. they do not 'merge' into the
underline indicating a hyperlink. Still, dashes make URLs hard to remember
and arguably should only be used on pages being highly optimized for search
engines noting the use of dashes is arguable and the use of underscores has
general agreement (to avoid their use).

The only other 'rule' is to avoid using spaces and any characters except the
alphanumerics 0-9 and a-z. Using upper case can be a real problem when
hosted on Linux/Unix as file names are case sensitive and frustrate the hell
out of people trying to enter a URL when not knowing which letters must be
upper case.

<%= Clinton Gallagher





"Tommy Desperate" wrote in
message news:447ED476-514C-447C-8899-F75732F0CAF1@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "clintonG" wrote:
>
> Its also considered poor form to use
>> underscores and dashes in file names for web pages as the underline hides
>> them which results in frustrated users not remembering or typing correct
>> values.
>
> Could someone recommend an article on the Internet or a book that gives
> advice on effective file names and web page names.
>
> ClintonG, Is it also considered poor form to use hyphens in file names for
> web pages?
>
>

Re: An unexpected change in a page URL

Thanks for all this solid information. I found 15 more pages that were full
of %20s because I had them in a folder with spaces in the folder name. I also
made sure that all file and folder names were in lower case. It would have
been good to know all this before I got my domain name. I would have chosen
one without a hyphen.

Re: An unexpected change in a page URL

There should be no problems with a domain name that contains a hyphen. They
are very common.
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"Tommy Desperate" wrote in
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|
| Thanks for all this solid information. I found 15 more pages that were
full
| of %20s because I had them in a folder with spaces in the folder name. I
also
| made sure that all file and folder names were in lower case. It would have
| been good to know all this before I got my domain name. I would have
chosen
| one without a hyphen.