setup project

I ordered VS2005 a while ago standart edition (still waiting for it).
Anyway looking closely at the various edition's features again I suddenly
realized:

1].
VS2005 standart doesn't seems to come with setup/MSI project, is that right?
How am I do create setup project then?
I know of these free tool:
http://nsis.sourceforge.net/
http://hmne.sourceforge.net/
But what about the bootstrapper? (.NET detection)? how could I integrate
with these?

I also found that:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=cd1 1be5a-c735-48d9-9cdd-a6d211c2e1c1&displaylang=en
But I am not sure as to how it could help me create application installers.

2]. No unit testing.
allright, I could use NUnit.

3]. No static analysis or code coverage. uh, what is that?

4]. No code profiling.
Does it mean no performance tool?
How could I do performance debugging then?
I knew of a free tool doing that. Available somewhere as a separate
download, but can't remember it by now.
Any tip?


what suprises me more is that even the professional edition don't comes with
code profiling/unit testing



--
Regards,
Lloyd Dupont

NovaMind development team
NovaMind Software
Mind Mapping Software

Re: setup project

If you NEED all this then the standard edition is NOT for you.

In fact the current way MS has things set up, if you want unit testing and
code profiling then all you are left with is VSTS (Visual Studio Team
System).

Just stick with VS.NET 2005 PRO (notice I said pro here)
NUnit
NCover
NDoc (when it supports 2005 *sigh*)
FXCop

....and you should be good to go.

"Lloyd Dupont" wrote in message
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>I ordered VS2005 a while ago standart edition (still waiting for it).
> Anyway looking closely at the various edition's features again I suddenly
> realized:
>
> 1].
> VS2005 standart doesn't seems to come with setup/MSI project, is that
> right?
> How am I do create setup project then?
> I know of these free tool:
> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/
> http://hmne.sourceforge.net/
> But what about the bootstrapper? (.NET detection)? how could I integrate
> with these?
>
> I also found that:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=cd1 1be5a-c735-48d9-9cdd-a6d211c2e1c1&displaylang=en
> But I am not sure as to how it could help me create application
> installers.
>
> 2]. No unit testing.
> allright, I could use NUnit.
>
> 3]. No static analysis or code coverage. uh, what is that?
>
> 4]. No code profiling.
> Does it mean no performance tool?
> How could I do performance debugging then?
> I knew of a free tool doing that. Available somewhere as a separate
> download, but can't remember it by now.
> Any tip?
>
>
> what suprises me more is that even the professional edition don't comes
> with code profiling/unit testing
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Lloyd Dupont
>
> NovaMind development team
> NovaMind Software
> Mind Mapping Software
>
>

Re: setup project

unfortunately, as I told.
I already ordered the standart edition and the pro edition is not in my
budget so far.

"Ray Cassick (Home)" wrote in message
news:%23jWU43L8FHA.744@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> If you NEED all this then the standard edition is NOT for you.
>
> In fact the current way MS has things set up, if you want unit testing and
> code profiling then all you are left with is VSTS (Visual Studio Team
> System).
>
> Just stick with VS.NET 2005 PRO (notice I said pro here)
> NUnit
> NCover
> NDoc (when it supports 2005 *sigh*)
> FXCop
>
> ...and you should be good to go.
>
> "Lloyd Dupont" wrote in message
> news:eUMSn8I8FHA.1000@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I ordered VS2005 a while ago standart edition (still waiting for it).
>> Anyway looking closely at the various edition's features again I suddenly
>> realized:
>>
>> 1].
>> VS2005 standart doesn't seems to come with setup/MSI project, is that
>> right?
>> How am I do create setup project then?
>> I know of these free tool:
>> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/
>> http://hmne.sourceforge.net/
>> But what about the bootstrapper? (.NET detection)? how could I integrate
>> with these?
>>
>> I also found that:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=cd1 1be5a-c735-48d9-9cdd-a6d211c2e1c1&displaylang=en
>> But I am not sure as to how it could help me create application
>> installers.
>>
>> 2]. No unit testing.
>> allright, I could use NUnit.
>>
>> 3]. No static analysis or code coverage. uh, what is that?
>>
>> 4]. No code profiling.
>> Does it mean no performance tool?
>> How could I do performance debugging then?
>> I knew of a free tool doing that. Available somewhere as a separate
>> download, but can't remember it by now.
>> Any tip?
>>
>>
>> what suprises me more is that even the professional edition don't comes
>> with code profiling/unit testing
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Lloyd Dupont
>>
>> NovaMind development team
>> NovaMind Software
>> Mind Mapping Software
>>
>>
>
>

Re: setup project

You might want to look at Advanced Installer
http://www.advancedinstaller.com . It handles MSI too.

Re: setup project

real cool, thanks!

"Edwin Lau" wrote in message
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> You might want to look at Advanced Installer
> http://www.advancedinstaller.com . It handles MSI too.

Re: setup project

You might as well look at all the MSI tools!

http://www.installsite.org/pages/en/msi/authoring.htm
--
Phil Wilson [MVP Windows Installer]
----
"Lloyd Dupont" wrote in message
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> real cool, thanks!
>
> "Edwin Lau" wrote in message
> news:Owo4MBZ8FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> You might want to look at Advanced Installer
>> http://www.advancedinstaller.com . It handles MSI too.
>
>

Re: setup project

thanks for the link!

"Phil Wilson" wrote in message
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> You might as well look at all the MSI tools!
>
> http://www.installsite.org/pages/en/msi/authoring.htm
> --
> Phil Wilson [MVP Windows Installer]
> ----
> "Lloyd Dupont" wrote in message
> news:Ol$L4EZ8FHA.2716@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> real cool, thanks!
>>
>> "Edwin Lau" wrote in message
>> news:Owo4MBZ8FHA.472@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> You might want to look at Advanced Installer
>>> http://www.advancedinstaller.com . It handles MSI too.
>>
>>
>
>