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#1: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Posted on 2004-08-31 21:45:23 by aortizjr

Hi...

I have been working on getting serial numbers electronically off of hard
drives for various reasons.

I have been successful with IDE and most SCSI drives (using hdparm and
scsiinfo). However I am running into trouble with ones that are on
AACRAID/PERC3 adaptors and actually in a RAID array.

The only serial number I can seem to grab is the one for the entire
volume which is just assigned.

Are there any tools available to get the serial number off the drives in
the array? Or can I get some pointers on writing such a tool?

Thank you.

Augustine

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#2: Re: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Posted on 2004-08-31 22:14:16 by Alvin Oga

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004, Augustine Ortiz, Jr. wrote:

> Hi...
>
> I have been working on getting serial numbers electronically off of hard
> drives for various reasons.
>
> I have been successful with IDE and most SCSI drives (using hdparm and
> scsiinfo). However I am running into trouble with ones that are on
> AACRAID/PERC3 adaptors and actually in a RAID array.
>
> The only serial number I can seem to grab is the one for the entire
> volume which is just assigned.
>
> Are there any tools available to get the serial number off the drives in
> the array? Or can I get some pointers on writing such a tool?

hddtemp will get you more info on the disk ... not sure if it works
on aacraid/perc etc

c ya
alvin

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#3: Re: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Posted on 2004-08-31 22:26:11 by Derek Vadala

> Are there any tools available to get the serial number off the drives in
> the array? Or can I get some pointers on writing such a tool?

You could try smartctl, but I don't know what luck you'll have accessing
the raw devices if they are behind a hardware controller.

http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6983



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#4: RE: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Posted on 2004-08-31 22:36:44 by bugzilla

When I have used hardware RAID, the vender supplies software that will do
what you want. But it is tied to the vender's hardware, not general.

Guy

-----Original Message-----
From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Augustine Ortiz, Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 3:45 PM
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org; linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Hi...

I have been working on getting serial numbers electronically off of hard
drives for various reasons.

I have been successful with IDE and most SCSI drives (using hdparm and
scsiinfo). However I am running into trouble with ones that are on
AACRAID/PERC3 adaptors and actually in a RAID array.

The only serial number I can seem to grab is the one for the entire
volume which is just assigned.

Are there any tools available to get the serial number off the drives in
the array? Or can I get some pointers on writing such a tool?

Thank you.

Augustine

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#5: RE: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Posted on 2004-08-31 23:10:48 by aortizjr

Usually, most hardware RAID stuff does give software. However since this
one (AACRAID/PERC) is such a common controller, this manufacturer didn't
include it. We do have some for other systems, but they are in Windows,
and I can't seem to figure out how to get the serial numbers through
that either.

Interestingly, if you have the arrays broken, you can pull the serial
numbers just fine.

Some RAID cards (ie. DAC90 chipset) will report all the disks when the
kernel module is loaded. I figured I could just sorta re-work that stuff
and see if I could probe it.

I am having some trouble with the AACRAID module though. It looks like
it grabs the info, but I can't tell if it does it when the drives are
actually RAIDed.

Thank you for the info, I will see if I can get it via the SMART stuff.
I will post if I have any luck.

Thanks!

Augustine


> From:
> Derek Vadala <derek@cynicism.com>
> You could try smartctl, but I don't know what luck you'll have
> accessing
> the raw devices if they are behind a hardware controller.
>
> http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6983
>


> hddtemp will get you more info on the disk ... not sure if it works
> on aacraid/perc etc
>
> c ya
> alvin


On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 14:36, Guy wrote:
> When I have used hardware RAID, the vender supplies software that will do
> what you want. But it is tied to the vender's hardware, not general.
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Augustine Ortiz, Jr.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 3:45 PM
> To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org; linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID
>
> Hi...
>
> I have been working on getting serial numbers electronically off of hard
> drives for various reasons.
>
> I have been successful with IDE and most SCSI drives (using hdparm and
> scsiinfo). However I am running into trouble with ones that are on
> AACRAID/PERC3 adaptors and actually in a RAID array.
>
> The only serial number I can seem to grab is the one for the entire
> volume which is just assigned.
>
> Are there any tools available to get the serial number off the drives in
> the array? Or can I get some pointers on writing such a tool?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Augustine
>
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#6: RE: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Posted on 2004-09-01 14:18:06 by mark_salyzyn

The aacraid module only reports the logicals and none-DASD devices to
the scsi layer. There is no direct communication to any DASD devices.

I have toyed with exporting the components of the arrays, but to please
the (Security, RAID & OEM) gohds I need to ensure that R/W requests are
not honored. I will look into producing a patch to MarkH for this once
the current set (about a dozen patches pending) has finished bubbling
through his hands ...

The current mechanism for exporting this component information is via
the applications, there is an SRB passthrough command that is in our OEM
variant of the driver used for such a purpose. The SRB passthrough was
rejected by the community and is not in the kernels.org driver and will
remain a legacy requirement by the OEMs.

Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn

-----Original Message-----
From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
[mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Augustine Ortiz,
Jr.
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 5:11 PM
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org; linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Usually, most hardware RAID stuff does give software. However since this
one (AACRAID/PERC) is such a common controller, this manufacturer didn't
include it. We do have some for other systems, but they are in Windows,
and I can't seem to figure out how to get the serial numbers through
that either.

Interestingly, if you have the arrays broken, you can pull the serial
numbers just fine.

Some RAID cards (ie. DAC90 chipset) will report all the disks when the
kernel module is loaded. I figured I could just sorta re-work that stuff
and see if I could probe it.

I am having some trouble with the AACRAID module though. It looks like
it grabs the info, but I can't tell if it does it when the drives are
actually RAIDed.

Thank you for the info, I will see if I can get it via the SMART stuff.
I will post if I have any luck.

Thanks!

Augustine


> From:
> Derek Vadala <derek@cynicism.com>
> You could try smartctl, but I don't know what luck you'll have
> accessing
> the raw devices if they are behind a hardware controller.
>
> http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6983
>


> hddtemp will get you more info on the disk ... not sure if it works
> on aacraid/perc etc
>
> c ya
> alvin


On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 14:36, Guy wrote:
> When I have used hardware RAID, the vender supplies software that will
do
> what you want. But it is tied to the vender's hardware, not general.
>
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Augustine
Ortiz, Jr.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 3:45 PM
> To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org; linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID
>
> Hi...
>
> I have been working on getting serial numbers electronically off of
hard
> drives for various reasons.
>
> I have been successful with IDE and most SCSI drives (using hdparm and
> scsiinfo). However I am running into trouble with ones that are on
> AACRAID/PERC3 adaptors and actually in a RAID array.
>
> The only serial number I can seem to grab is the one for the entire
> volume which is just assigned.
>
> Are there any tools available to get the serial number off the drives
in
> the array? Or can I get some pointers on writing such a tool?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Augustine
>
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#7: RE: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID

Posted on 2004-09-01 16:33:45 by aortizjr

Hi...

Thank you for the very informative response. I was afraid that the
passthrough was just not supported.

Would it be possible for me to get the driver (OEM) that can report this
information (SRB Passthrough)? Or can I get the pieces to implement the
passthrough myself.

If you know anything about getting that info in Win32 that would help
greatly also, since I am in the same boat in that OS as well.

Thanks!

Augustine

On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 06:18, Salyzyn, Mark wrote:
> The aacraid module only reports the logicals and none-DASD devices to
> the scsi layer. There is no direct communication to any DASD devices.
>
> I have toyed with exporting the components of the arrays, but to please
> the (Security, RAID & OEM) gohds I need to ensure that R/W requests are
> not honored. I will look into producing a patch to MarkH for this once
> the current set (about a dozen patches pending) has finished bubbling
> through his hands ...
>
> The current mechanism for exporting this component information is via
> the applications, there is an SRB passthrough command that is in our OEM
> variant of the driver used for such a purpose. The SRB passthrough was
> rejected by the community and is not in the kernels.org driver and will
> remain a legacy requirement by the OEMs.
>
> Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
> [mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Augustine Ortiz,
> Jr.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 5:11 PM
> To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org; linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: RE: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID
>
> Usually, most hardware RAID stuff does give software. However since this
> one (AACRAID/PERC) is such a common controller, this manufacturer didn't
> include it. We do have some for other systems, but they are in Windows,
> and I can't seem to figure out how to get the serial numbers through
> that either.
>
> Interestingly, if you have the arrays broken, you can pull the serial
> numbers just fine.
>
> Some RAID cards (ie. DAC90 chipset) will report all the disks when the
> kernel module is loaded. I figured I could just sorta re-work that stuff
> and see if I could probe it.
>
> I am having some trouble with the AACRAID module though. It looks like
> it grabs the info, but I can't tell if it does it when the drives are
> actually RAIDed.
>
> Thank you for the info, I will see if I can get it via the SMART stuff.
> I will post if I have any luck.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Augustine
>
>
> > From:
> > Derek Vadala <derek@cynicism.com>
> > You could try smartctl, but I don't know what luck you'll have
> > accessing
> > the raw devices if they are behind a hardware controller.
> >
> > http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/
> > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6983
> >
>
>
> > hddtemp will get you more info on the disk ... not sure if it works
> > on aacraid/perc etc
> >
> > c ya
> > alvin
>
>
> On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 14:36, Guy wrote:
> > When I have used hardware RAID, the vender supplies software that will
> do
> > what you want. But it is tied to the vender's hardware, not general.
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org
> > [mailto:linux-raid-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Augustine
> Ortiz, Jr.
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 3:45 PM
> > To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org; linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Getting HD Serial Numbers in RAID
> >
> > Hi...
> >
> > I have been working on getting serial numbers electronically off of
> hard
> > drives for various reasons.
> >
> > I have been successful with IDE and most SCSI drives (using hdparm and
> > scsiinfo). However I am running into trouble with ones that are on
> > AACRAID/PERC3 adaptors and actually in a RAID array.
> >
> > The only serial number I can seem to grab is the one for the entire
> > volume which is just assigned.
> >
> > Are there any tools available to get the serial number off the drives
> in
> > the array? Or can I get some pointers on writing such a tool?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Augustine
> >
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