Clustering FTP Sites

Clustering FTP Sites

am 19.07.2006 13:16:22 von Stefano Colombo

We have a windows 2003 cluster and we need to cluster single instances of
ftp sites ( not the FTP service as whole )
Is this possible ?
The KB http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887417/en-us tells how to cluster the
FTP service but not how to cluster single ftp sites
Does anyone know how to do that ?
Thanks
Stefano

Re: Clustering FTP Sites

am 19.07.2006 14:16:08 von Rod

Single FTP site, but not the service. Would that leave a file share then? I
am confused as to what you really want to do?

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
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"Stefano Colombo" wrote in message
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> We have a windows 2003 cluster and we need to cluster single instances of
> ftp sites ( not the FTP service as whole )
> Is this possible ?
> The KB http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887417/en-us tells how to cluster
> the FTP service but not how to cluster single ftp sites
> Does anyone know how to do that ?
> Thanks
> Stefano
>
>

Re: Clustering FTP Sites

am 19.07.2006 16:31:24 von Stefano Colombo

Hi Rodney,
what I'm trying to do is clustering the ftp sites , obviously the FTP
service is running on both the nodes .
To be more specific .
Two nodes ,both with FTP service started ( not clustered )
I need to define to "sites" , say ftp1, ftp2 . Each ftp site must listen
only on one IP ( clustered ) .
So I would define 2 cluster groups each with an IP a Netbios name and a
ftp site.

I looked inside the clusftp.vbs and tried to adapt it with what is inside
the iisftp.vbs which have parts that start and stop single ftp sites but
couldn't have it working

Thanks
Stefano



"Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" ha scritto nel
messaggio news:ebwIp0yqGHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Single FTP site, but not the service. Would that leave a file share then?
> I am confused as to what you really want to do?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rodney R. Fournier
>
> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
> ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
>
>
> "Stefano Colombo" wrote in message
> news:eJ9VFTyqGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> We have a windows 2003 cluster and we need to cluster single instances of
>> ftp sites ( not the FTP service as whole )
>> Is this possible ?
>> The KB http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887417/en-us tells how to cluster
>> the FTP service but not how to cluster single ftp sites
>> Does anyone know how to do that ?
>> Thanks
>> Stefano
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Clustering FTP Sites

am 19.07.2006 20:14:44 von Jason B

This is a fairly complicated problem, but I have quite a bit of
experience with this. I think your best bet would be to have both of
your ftp sites always running on both nodes and simply bind those sites
within the IIS config to virtual IP's in the cluster. That way you can
move the IP's back and forth and this will force traffic to those sites
to the node that owns that IP. You should also have the physical drive
with the FTP data on it in the same cluster group as the VIP so that
the data moves around with it. Actually, even better than that would
be to point the FTP virtual directories to network shares, so that the
FTP service can always see those shares, otherwise you'll get constant
errors in the event logs when the FTP service starts and it can't find
the folders to start up with.

Good luck...

Stefano Colombo wrote:
> Hi Rodney,
> what I'm trying to do is clustering the ftp sites , obviously the FTP
> service is running on both the nodes .
> To be more specific .
> Two nodes ,both with FTP service started ( not clustered )
> I need to define to "sites" , say ftp1, ftp2 . Each ftp site must listen
> only on one IP ( clustered ) .
> So I would define 2 cluster groups each with an IP a Netbios name and a
> ftp site.
>
> I looked inside the clusftp.vbs and tried to adapt it with what is inside
> the iisftp.vbs which have parts that start and stop single ftp sites but
> couldn't have it working
>
> Thanks
> Stefano
>
>
>
> "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" ha scritto nel
> messaggio news:ebwIp0yqGHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Single FTP site, but not the service. Would that leave a file share then?
> > I am confused as to what you really want to do?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rodney R. Fournier
> >
> > MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
> > http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
> > http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
> > http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
> > ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
> >
> >
> > "Stefano Colombo" wrote in message
> > news:eJ9VFTyqGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> We have a windows 2003 cluster and we need to cluster single instances of
> >> ftp sites ( not the FTP service as whole )
> >> Is this possible ?
> >> The KB http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887417/en-us tells how to cluster
> >> the FTP service but not how to cluster single ftp sites
> >> Does anyone know how to do that ?
> >> Thanks
> >> Stefano
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

Re: Clustering FTP Sites

am 20.07.2006 00:24:22 von Rod

FTP is part of IIS, IIS is better served by NLB. FTP is 30 year technology
with password in the clear. FTP is better off never being on a Cluster or
NLB or on your network ;)

Since this is not a best practice or even a good idea, I don't have any
experience doing what you are trying. Sorry and good luck.

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner


"Stefano Colombo" wrote in message
news:uW7vEA0qGHA.2108@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi Rodney,
> what I'm trying to do is clustering the ftp sites , obviously the FTP
> service is running on both the nodes .
> To be more specific .
> Two nodes ,both with FTP service started ( not clustered )
> I need to define to "sites" , say ftp1, ftp2 . Each ftp site must listen
> only on one IP ( clustered ) .
> So I would define 2 cluster groups each with an IP a Netbios name and a
> ftp site.
>
> I looked inside the clusftp.vbs and tried to adapt it with what is
> inside the iisftp.vbs which have parts that start and stop single ftp
> sites but couldn't have it working
>
> Thanks
> Stefano
>
>
>
> "Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]" ha scritto
> nel messaggio news:ebwIp0yqGHA.4988@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Single FTP site, but not the service. Would that leave a file share then?
>> I am confused as to what you really want to do?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rodney R. Fournier
>>
>> MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
>> http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
>> http://www.msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
>> http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
>> ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
>>
>>
>> "Stefano Colombo" wrote in message
>> news:eJ9VFTyqGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> We have a windows 2003 cluster and we need to cluster single instances
>>> of ftp sites ( not the FTP service as whole )
>>> Is this possible ?
>>> The KB http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887417/en-us tells how to cluster
>>> the FTP service but not how to cluster single ftp sites
>>> Does anyone know how to do that ?
>>> Thanks
>>> Stefano
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>