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#1: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-17 00:26:43 by Phil Steer

When I publish my website using FP2003 the borders (top and bottom) display
the page content rather than the border content (so that the page content
appears 3 times on the page).

After extensive experimentation I have discovered that the problem depends
upon the size of the original border HTML files (as held within the _borders
folder within FrontPage).

If the border file is 256 bytes or less then there is no problem - the
border displays correctly when published.

If, however, the border file is more than 256 bytes (even by a single
character) then the border contains the page content when published.

You can see this demonstrated at
http://s198740865.websitehome.co.uk/test.htm

The top and bottom border files are identical, except that the bottom border
file has one extra character added to the border content. The top border
displays correctly; the bottom border does not.

Before discovering the above I had pointed my hosting provder in the
direction of the following KB article about shared borders being displayed
incorrectly on UNIX servers:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299 360

Their response was that the use FPE 5.0 and so this did not apply.

I would be very grateful if someone could suggest a resolution to this
problem. Many thanks.

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#2: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-17 00:38:23 by Steve Easton

You're hosting company is wrong.

The 5.0 FPSEs are the 2002 version, and the KB does apply to them.

Unfortunately however, the download for the extensions update no longer exists.

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm




"Phil Steer" <nospam@allos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OvU3QKCaHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> When I publish my website using FP2003 the borders (top and bottom) display the page
> content rather than the border content (so that the page content appears 3 times on the
> page).
>
> After extensive experimentation I have discovered that the problem depends upon the size
> of the original border HTML files (as held within the _borders folder within FrontPage).
>
> If the border file is 256 bytes or less then there is no problem - the border displays
> correctly when published.
>
> If, however, the border file is more than 256 bytes (even by a single character) then
> the border contains the page content when published.
>
> You can see this demonstrated at http://s198740865.websitehome.co.uk/test.htm
>
> The top and bottom border files are identical, except that the bottom border file has
> one extra character added to the border content. The top border displays correctly; the
> bottom border does not.
>
> Before discovering the above I had pointed my hosting provder in the direction of the
> following KB article about shared borders being displayed incorrectly on UNIX servers:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299 360
>
> Their response was that the use FPE 5.0 and so this did not apply.
>
> I would be very grateful if someone could suggest a resolution to this problem. Many
> thanks.
>

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#3: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-17 00:38:23 by Steve Easton

You're hosting company is wrong.

The 5.0 FPSEs are the 2002 version, and the KB does apply to them.

Unfortunately however, the download for the extensions update no longer exists.

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm




"Phil Steer" <nospam@allos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OvU3QKCaHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> When I publish my website using FP2003 the borders (top and bottom) display the page
> content rather than the border content (so that the page content appears 3 times on the
> page).
>
> After extensive experimentation I have discovered that the problem depends upon the size
> of the original border HTML files (as held within the _borders folder within FrontPage).
>
> If the border file is 256 bytes or less then there is no problem - the border displays
> correctly when published.
>
> If, however, the border file is more than 256 bytes (even by a single character) then
> the border contains the page content when published.
>
> You can see this demonstrated at http://s198740865.websitehome.co.uk/test.htm
>
> The top and bottom border files are identical, except that the bottom border file has
> one extra character added to the border content. The top border displays correctly; the
> bottom border does not.
>
> Before discovering the above I had pointed my hosting provder in the direction of the
> following KB article about shared borders being displayed incorrectly on UNIX servers:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299 360
>
> Their response was that the use FPE 5.0 and so this did not apply.
>
> I would be very grateful if someone could suggest a resolution to this problem. Many
> thanks.
>

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#4: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-17 00:54:05 by Phil Steer

Steve,

Many thanks for your very swift response. I have passed the information on
to my hosting company (one of the world's largest - you'd have thought
they'd have known...!)

Although the download no longer exists, since the KB article refers to
incorrectly configured performance tuning settings, could the problem be
resolved by chaging these settings manually (in the Registry?)

Once again, many thanks.

Best Regards, Phil

"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
news:uFL$3QCaHHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You're hosting company is wrong.
>
> The 5.0 FPSEs are the 2002 version, and the KB does apply to them.
>
> Unfortunately however, the download for the extensions update no longer
> exists.
>
> --
>
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> FP Cleaner
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> Hit Me FP
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>
>
>
>
> "Phil Steer" <nospam@allos.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:OvU3QKCaHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> When I publish my website using FP2003 the borders (top and bottom)
>> display the page content rather than the border content (so that the page
>> content appears 3 times on the page).
>>
>> After extensive experimentation I have discovered that the problem
>> depends upon the size of the original border HTML files (as held within
>> the _borders folder within FrontPage).
>>
>> If the border file is 256 bytes or less then there is no problem - the
>> border displays correctly when published.
>>
>> If, however, the border file is more than 256 bytes (even by a single
>> character) then the border contains the page content when published.
>>
>> You can see this demonstrated at
>> http://s198740865.websitehome.co.uk/test.htm
>>
>> The top and bottom border files are identical, except that the bottom
>> border file has one extra character added to the border content. The top
>> border displays correctly; the bottom border does not.
>>
>> Before discovering the above I had pointed my hosting provder in the
>> direction of the following KB article about shared borders being
>> displayed incorrectly on UNIX servers:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299 360
>>
>> Their response was that the use FPE 5.0 and so this did not apply.
>>
>> I would be very grateful if someone could suggest a resolution to this
>> problem. Many thanks.
>>
>
>

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#5: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-17 00:54:05 by Phil Steer

Steve,

Many thanks for your very swift response. I have passed the information on
to my hosting company (one of the world's largest - you'd have thought
they'd have known...!)

Although the download no longer exists, since the KB article refers to
incorrectly configured performance tuning settings, could the problem be
resolved by chaging these settings manually (in the Registry?)

Once again, many thanks.

Best Regards, Phil

"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
news:uFL$3QCaHHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You're hosting company is wrong.
>
> The 5.0 FPSEs are the 2002 version, and the KB does apply to them.
>
> Unfortunately however, the download for the extensions update no longer
> exists.
>
> --
>
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> FP Cleaner
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> Hit Me FP
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>
>
>
>
> "Phil Steer" <nospam@allos.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:OvU3QKCaHHA.5032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> When I publish my website using FP2003 the borders (top and bottom)
>> display the page content rather than the border content (so that the page
>> content appears 3 times on the page).
>>
>> After extensive experimentation I have discovered that the problem
>> depends upon the size of the original border HTML files (as held within
>> the _borders folder within FrontPage).
>>
>> If the border file is 256 bytes or less then there is no problem - the
>> border displays correctly when published.
>>
>> If, however, the border file is more than 256 bytes (even by a single
>> character) then the border contains the page content when published.
>>
>> You can see this demonstrated at
>> http://s198740865.websitehome.co.uk/test.htm
>>
>> The top and bottom border files are identical, except that the bottom
>> border file has one extra character added to the border content. The top
>> border displays correctly; the bottom border does not.
>>
>> Before discovering the above I had pointed my hosting provder in the
>> direction of the following KB article about shared borders being
>> displayed incorrectly on UNIX servers:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q299 360
>>
>> Their response was that the use FPE 5.0 and so this did not apply.
>>
>> I would be very grateful if someone could suggest a resolution to this
>> problem. Many thanks.
>>
>
>

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#6: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-17 01:08:30 by Steve Easton

> Many thanks for your very swift response. I have passed the information on
> to my hosting company (one of the world's largest - you'd have thought they'd have
> known...!)

You're more than welcome.

> Although the download no longer exists, since the KB article refers to incorrectly
> configured performance tuning settings, could the problem be resolved by chaging these
> settings manually (in the Registry?)

Not on an Apache / Unix server.

I know switching hosts is a pita but you might want to consider it.

fwiw, all of my sites are hosted on Apache / Unix servers.

> Once again, many thanks.

Glad to try to help.

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

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#7: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-17 01:08:30 by Steve Easton

> Many thanks for your very swift response. I have passed the information on
> to my hosting company (one of the world's largest - you'd have thought they'd have
> known...!)

You're more than welcome.

> Although the download no longer exists, since the KB article refers to incorrectly
> configured performance tuning settings, could the problem be resolved by chaging these
> settings manually (in the Registry?)

Not on an Apache / Unix server.

I know switching hosts is a pita but you might want to consider it.

fwiw, all of my sites are hosted on Apache / Unix servers.

> Once again, many thanks.

Glad to try to help.

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

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#8: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-18 00:29:46 by Phil Steer

Steve,

Many thanks once again for your replies.

If I'd thought about it I'd have realised that you couldn't make Registry
changes on an Apache / Unix server!

It didn't seem likely that my hosting provider would fix the problem (given
their responses up til now, and the fact that the required download no
longer exists) and so I decided to try replacing my Shared Borders with a
Dynamic Web Template (something I should probably have done long ago).

It wasn't difficult to do (even on a site with over 1500 pages) and it works
perfectly (so far as I've been able to tell without checking every page
individually!)

Once again, many thanks for you assistance, which enabled me to stop
searching for a solution where one was unlikely to be found, and prompted me
to try another route.

Best Regards, Phil

"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
news:ufkPthCaHHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Many thanks for your very swift response. I have passed the information
>> on
>> to my hosting company (one of the world's largest - you'd have thought
>> they'd have known...!)
>
> You're more than welcome.
>
>> Although the download no longer exists, since the KB article refers to
>> incorrectly configured performance tuning settings, could the problem be
>> resolved by chaging these settings manually (in the Registry?)
>
> Not on an Apache / Unix server.
>
> I know switching hosts is a pita but you might want to consider it.
>
> fwiw, all of my sites are hosted on Apache / Unix servers.
>
>> Once again, many thanks.
>
> Glad to try to help.
>
> --
>
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> FP Cleaner
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> Hit Me FP
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>
>
>

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#9: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-18 00:29:46 by Phil Steer

Steve,

Many thanks once again for your replies.

If I'd thought about it I'd have realised that you couldn't make Registry
changes on an Apache / Unix server!

It didn't seem likely that my hosting provider would fix the problem (given
their responses up til now, and the fact that the required download no
longer exists) and so I decided to try replacing my Shared Borders with a
Dynamic Web Template (something I should probably have done long ago).

It wasn't difficult to do (even on a site with over 1500 pages) and it works
perfectly (so far as I've been able to tell without checking every page
individually!)

Once again, many thanks for you assistance, which enabled me to stop
searching for a solution where one was unlikely to be found, and prompted me
to try another route.

Best Regards, Phil

"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
news:ufkPthCaHHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>> Many thanks for your very swift response. I have passed the information
>> on
>> to my hosting company (one of the world's largest - you'd have thought
>> they'd have known...!)
>
> You're more than welcome.
>
>> Although the download no longer exists, since the KB article refers to
>> incorrectly configured performance tuning settings, could the problem be
>> resolved by chaging these settings manually (in the Registry?)
>
> Not on an Apache / Unix server.
>
> I know switching hosts is a pita but you might want to consider it.
>
> fwiw, all of my sites are hosted on Apache / Unix servers.
>
>> Once again, many thanks.
>
> Glad to try to help.
>
> --
>
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> FP Cleaner
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> Hit Me FP
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>
>
>

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#10: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-18 01:01:08 by Steve Easton

Glad you got it sorted out.
Yep, a DWT or includes is the best way to go.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

"Phil Steer" <nospam@allos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OZPtowOaHHA.1508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Steve,
>
> Many thanks once again for your replies.
>
> If I'd thought about it I'd have realised that you couldn't make Registry changes on an
> Apache / Unix server!
>
> It didn't seem likely that my hosting provider would fix the problem (given their
> responses up til now, and the fact that the required download no longer exists) and so I
> decided to try replacing my Shared Borders with a Dynamic Web Template (something I
> should probably have done long ago).
>
> It wasn't difficult to do (even on a site with over 1500 pages) and it works perfectly
> (so far as I've been able to tell without checking every page individually!)
>
> Once again, many thanks for you assistance, which enabled me to stop searching for a
> solution where one was unlikely to be found, and prompted me to try another route.
>
> Best Regards, Phil
>
> "Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
> news:ufkPthCaHHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Many thanks for your very swift response. I have passed the information on
>>> to my hosting company (one of the world's largest - you'd have thought they'd have
>>> known...!)
>>
>> You're more than welcome.
>>
>>> Although the download no longer exists, since the KB article refers to incorrectly
>>> configured performance tuning settings, could the problem be resolved by chaging these
>>> settings manually (in the Registry?)
>>
>> Not on an Apache / Unix server.
>>
>> I know switching hosts is a pita but you might want to consider it.
>>
>> fwiw, all of my sites are hosted on Apache / Unix servers.
>>
>>> Once again, many thanks.
>>
>> Glad to try to help.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Steve Easton
>> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> FP Cleaner
>> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
>> Hit Me FP
>> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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#11: Re: Page content duplicated in shared borders

Posted on 2007-03-18 01:01:08 by Steve Easton

Glad you got it sorted out.
Yep, a DWT or includes is the best way to go.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

"Phil Steer" <nospam@allos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OZPtowOaHHA.1508@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Steve,
>
> Many thanks once again for your replies.
>
> If I'd thought about it I'd have realised that you couldn't make Registry changes on an
> Apache / Unix server!
>
> It didn't seem likely that my hosting provider would fix the problem (given their
> responses up til now, and the fact that the required download no longer exists) and so I
> decided to try replacing my Shared Borders with a Dynamic Web Template (something I
> should probably have done long ago).
>
> It wasn't difficult to do (even on a site with over 1500 pages) and it works perfectly
> (so far as I've been able to tell without checking every page individually!)
>
> Once again, many thanks for you assistance, which enabled me to stop searching for a
> solution where one was unlikely to be found, and prompted me to try another route.
>
> Best Regards, Phil
>
> "Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
> news:ufkPthCaHHA.348@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> Many thanks for your very swift response. I have passed the information on
>>> to my hosting company (one of the world's largest - you'd have thought they'd have
>>> known...!)
>>
>> You're more than welcome.
>>
>>> Although the download no longer exists, since the KB article refers to incorrectly
>>> configured performance tuning settings, could the problem be resolved by chaging these
>>> settings manually (in the Registry?)
>>
>> Not on an Apache / Unix server.
>>
>> I know switching hosts is a pita but you might want to consider it.
>>
>> fwiw, all of my sites are hosted on Apache / Unix servers.
>>
>>> Once again, many thanks.
>>
>> Glad to try to help.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Steve Easton
>> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> FP Cleaner
>> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
>> Hit Me FP
>> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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