New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 27.10.2007 01:46:37 von chilly8

That's right, there is a new competitor in subscription
online broadcasting of sports, which is being
talked about in sevreal figure skating discussion
boards, including mine.

This new subscription service, at abour $42 per
year, at current exchange rates will be a network
admins WORST NIGHTMARE. This is
becuase of the high amount of bandwidth
used, at 992K, and encrypted, too.

And one guy from China has put VERY
detailed instructions on at least THREE
figure skating boards, including mine, or
how to get past ANY firewall to use it.
So even the "secure" networks that Leythos
touts, might be no match for this new service.

Their servers are in Russia, and its a Russian
service, and they broadcast worldwide at
992K

Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 27.10.2007 07:36:24 von Leythos

In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> And one guy from China has put VERY
> detailed instructions on at least THREE
> figure skating boards, including mine, or
> how to get past ANY firewall to use it.
> So even the "secure" networks that Leythos
> touts, might be no match for this new service.

It doesn't work, it doesn't matter how you play the game, they can't get
to the entry point from any of our networks - it's really that simple.

Nothing they can put up can be reached from our networks, we only allow
connections to business approved sites, not some filtered list that
allows x category, but hard approved lists.

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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 28.10.2007 01:57:39 von unknown

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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 28.10.2007 02:23:31 von Leythos

In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> All three boards, becuase they are
> OUTSIDE the United States are NOT SUBJECT to
> United States laws.

And I suppose you've never read about a person in another country that
commits a crime across the internet being arrested in his home
country...

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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 30.10.2007 14:13:22 von unknown

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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 30.10.2007 21:18:48 von DevilsPGD

In message "Chilly8"
wrote:

>There is a new program that is now advertising on one our
>competitors in the sports and/or talk show genre, and this
>program does not require anything to be installed. System
>Cleaner runs from a single .EXE file, nothing to install. Just
>insert the floppy or memory stick the program in on into
>your office PC, and erase all your tracks. You can use
>tihs on your office PC, and there will be no CLUE that
>any kind of disk wiping program was ever used. The
>program is apparently small enough to place on a floppy disk.

*sigh*

You're more then welcome to try that, but in a network environment built
for security, a number of things will get in your way.

1) Floppies are not available.

2) USB sticks will not install (nor will any other unauthorized device
install)

3) Unknown exes won't run.

4) You'll be fired for testing policy #3.

5) Packets address to, or received from unknown servers are simply
discarded.

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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 30.10.2007 22:23:27 von unknown

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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 31.10.2007 01:03:18 von Leythos

In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> "Leythos" wrote in message
> news:MPG.218da08a1bee30f4989722@adfree.Usenet.com...
> > In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> All three boards, becuase they are
> >> OUTSIDE the United States are NOT SUBJECT to
> >> United States laws.
> >
> > And I suppose you've never read about a person in another country that
> > commits a crime across the internet being arrested in his home
> > country...
>
> There is a new program that is now advertising on one our
> competitors in the sports and/or talk show genre, and this
> program does not require anything to be installed. System
> Cleaner runs from a single .EXE file, nothing to install. Just
> insert the floppy or memory stick the program in on into
> your office PC, and erase all your tracks. You can use
> tihs on your office PC, and there will be no CLUE that
> any kind of disk wiping program was ever used. The
> program is apparently small enough to place on a floppy disk.

Unless it formats the drive it won't work on most of our systems or
laptops.

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- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 31.10.2007 01:04:59 von Leythos

In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> all the network
> admins will see is a bunch of jibberish in the record
> of what URLs were accessed. phpProxy obfuscates
> the URL, so the precise location of where you went
> cannot be determined by your network admins.

They don't need to see the data, only where the connection is too, and
that's enough to tell that you're not doing something accepted by
company policy.

So, again, on a properly secured network it would not work no matter how
many proxy sites you have, and one less secure networks it would stand
out like a sore thumb.

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Leythos
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- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 31.10.2007 02:10:39 von unknown

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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 31.10.2007 02:15:47 von Leythos

In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> There are SO many of
> them, that companies that do NOT use the rather pricey firewall
> appliance will be forever playing "whack a mole"

Actually, it's easy to defeat with a CHEAP firewall appliance, and even
many SOHO solutions can defeat your proxy crap.

Fact is, as smaller I.T. admins learn how easy it is, and as larger
companies learn how much productivity is lost, you're show won't be
listened to anywhere except third world countries that don't increase
your ratings.

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Leythos
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- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 31.10.2007 02:59:35 von unknown

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Re: New sSportscasting competitor = ADMINS WORST NIGHTMARE

am 31.10.2007 03:03:54 von Leythos

In article , chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> There is also the fact that Australian law does not prohibit
> using a public proxy, such as a phpProxy site, to get around
> corporate filtering. As long as you do not break someone's
> password, it is legal in Australia.

And yet, assisting in a crime is still a crime in Oz, and you give
methods to break laws and work contracts - so you can be liable.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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