Why the Spam?

Why is our group getting hammered with so much spam? Is there
something we can collectively do?

Sorry, I needed to ask but to bring it back round to MS Access, I have
worked up an access database for a number of years and would like to
consider having it delivered as a web based solution. I'm assuming it
needs to be upscaled to SQL or something- is this easy to do and
learn, or is it more a job for a commercial outfit? thanks

David

Re: Why the Spam?

Hi David,

Yes, this spam is quite annoying.

As for scaling up to sql server, this all depends on your programming
skill level. If you have been doing development for a while (more than
a few years) then stepping up to sql server shouldn't require a
consulting firm. But if programming is not your primary skill set and
you have a business to run and need to scale up pronto - then hiring a
consultant may be worth the cash.

One thing I have noticed in the programming business is that you get
what you pay for. If your app is only going to service a few dozen
people/clients and you aren't going to be doing credit cards online, and
so on, then you may not need a high powered expensive programmer. But
if you are expanding your business to online with credit card
capabilities ... someone with that skillset doesn't come cheap in the
sort run, but in the long run will save you lots of money and grief by
developing a robust system - which for the corporate environment - won't
be in Access.

Rich

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Re: Why the Spam?

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:35:51 -0400, David wrote:

> Sorry, I needed to ask but to bring it back round to MS Access, I have
> worked up an access database for a number of years and would like to
> consider having it delivered as a web based solution.

There are many kinds of applications that might be considered to be web
solutions.

Do you want me to be able to navigate to http://yourwebsolution.ext and be
able to use your database, with only my browser as a hosting application?

Perhaps, you would be happy with an application you deliver which would be
like your Access application but allow me to access the data from anywhere
in the world over the internet, but if you don't give me the application,
there is no access.

These are very different. The first is quite challenging; the second is
not so challenging. I think it would be helpful if you thought about and
answered these questions before you commit yourself to SQL-Server, or any
technology at all.

I too am very concerned with the spam and am becoming disappointed with
Google; I've referred on a bunch of spam to them with no results whatever.

Re: Why the Spam?

On Apr 11, 6:35=A0pm, David wrote:
> Why is our group getting hammered with so much spam? =A0Is there
> something we can collectively do?
>
I use Google Groups. I have been reporting the advertising as spam.
This recently showed up in other groups. I can find most of these
posted in 100's of groups. When will they learn we don't want to buy
their crap? When will they learn that is poor advertising?

Re: Why the Spam?

lyle fairfield wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:35:51 -0400, David wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I needed to ask but to bring it back round to MS Access, I have
>> worked up an access database for a number of years and would like to
>> consider having it delivered as a web based solution.
>
> There are many kinds of applications that might be considered to be web
> solutions.
>
> Do you want me to be able to navigate to http://yourwebsolution.ext and
> be able to use your database, with only my browser as a hosting
> application?
>
> Perhaps, you would be happy with an application you deliver which would
> be like your Access application but allow me to access the data from
> anywhere in the world over the internet, but if you don't give me the
> application, there is no access.
>
> These are very different. The first is quite challenging; the second is
> not so challenging. I think it would be helpful if you thought about and
> answered these questions before you commit yourself to SQL-Server, or
> any technology at all.
>
> I too am very concerned with the spam and am becoming disappointed with
> Google; I've referred on a bunch of spam to them with no results whatever.
>
Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder. From GMail, click on
Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:" text box enter:
"is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click OK when you get the
warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it" checkboxes, and click on
the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!

Re: Why the Spam?

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
wrote:

> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
> From GMail, click on
> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:" text
> box enter:
> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click OK
> when you get the
> warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
> checkboxes, and click on
> the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!

Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to newsgroups?
That is the practice about which I am concerned.

Re: Why the Spam?

lyle fairfield wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
> wrote:
>
>> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
>> From GMail, click on
>> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:"
>> text box enter:
>> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click
>> OK when you get the
>> warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
>> checkboxes, and click on
>> the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!
>
> Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to newsgroups?
> That is the practice about which I am concerned.
You're a funny guy, Jackweed. If you don't like the advise, you know what you can do.

Re: Why the Spam?

Donald Calloway wrote in
news:hVcMj.3732$El4.1225@trnddc05:

> lyle fairfield wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
>>> From GMail, click on
>>> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:"
>>> text box enter:
>>> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click
>>> OK when you get the
>>> warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
>>> checkboxes, and click on
>>> the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!
>>
>> Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to
>> newsgroups? That is the practice about which I am concerned.
> You're a funny guy, Jackweed. If you don't like the advise, you know
> what you can do.

There was nothing wrong with the advice except that it had nothing to do
with the issue being discussed.

Re: Why the Spam?

On Apr 12, 8:58=A0pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
> lyle fairfield wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
> > wrote:
>
> >> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
> >> From GMail, click on
> >> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. =A0 In the "Has the words:"
> >> text box enter:
> >> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. =A0Click
> >> OK when you get the
> >> warning dialog box. =A0Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
> >> checkboxes, and click on
> >> the Create Filter button. =A0That's it! =A0No more spam!!
>
> > Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to newsgroups?=

> > That is the practice about which I am concerned.
>
> You're a funny guy, Jackweed. =A0If you don't like the advise, you know wh=
at you can do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

ADVICE not ADVISE. "jackweed"...

Re: Why the Spam?

frogsteaks@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Apr 12, 8:58 pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
>> lyle fairfield wrote:
>>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
>>> wrote:
>>>> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
>>>> From GMail, click on
>>>> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:"
>>>> text box enter:
>>>> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click
>>>> OK when you get the
>>>> warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
>>>> checkboxes, and click on
>>>> the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!
>>> Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to newsgroups?
>>> That is the practice about which I am concerned.
>> You're a funny guy, Jackweed. If you don't like the advise, you know what you can do.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> ADVICE not ADVISE. "jackweed"...
Freak you. Freakhead.

Re: Why the Spam?

On Apr 14, 7:05=A0pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
> frogste...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Apr 12, 8:58 pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
> >> lyle fairfield wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
> >>>> From GMail, click on
> >>>> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. =A0 In the "Has the words:"=

> >>>> text box enter:
> >>>> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. =A0Clic=
k
> >>>> OK when you get the
> >>>> warning dialog box. =A0Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
> >>>> checkboxes, and click on
> >>>> the Create Filter button. =A0That's it! =A0No more spam!!
> >>> Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to newsgroup=
s?
> >>> That is the practice about which I am concerned.
> >> You're a funny guy, Jackweed. =A0If you don't like the advise, you know=
what you can do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > ADVICE not ADVISE. =A0"jackweed"...
>
> Freak you. Freakhead.

What brilliant wit! I'm glad I've never crossed swords with you!

Re: Why the Spam?

In article <0rRMj.12329$tw3.2252@trnddc03>, drcalloway@verizon.net
says...
> frogsteaks@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Apr 12, 8:58 pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
> >> lyle fairfield wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
> >>>> From GMail, click on
> >>>> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:"
> >>>> text box enter:
> >>>> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click
> >>>> OK when you get the
> >>>> warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
> >>>> checkboxes, and click on
> >>>> the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!
> >>> Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to newsgroups?
> >>> That is the practice about which I am concerned.
> >> You're a funny guy, Jackweed. If you don't like the advise, you know what you can do.- Hide quoted text -
> >>
> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > ADVICE not ADVISE. "jackweed"...
> Freak you. Freakhead.
>

Freak? Jackweed? OMFG we have a 3rd grader in the newsgroup!

Re: Why the Spam?

Its Jus Me wrote:
> In article <0rRMj.12329$tw3.2252@trnddc03>, drcalloway@verizon.net
> says...
>> frogsteaks@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Apr 12, 8:58 pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
>>>> lyle fairfield wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
>>>>>> From GMail, click on
>>>>>> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:"
>>>>>> text box enter:
>>>>>> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click
>>>>>> OK when you get the
>>>>>> warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
>>>>>> checkboxes, and click on
>>>>>> the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!
>>>>> Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to newsgroups?
>>>>> That is the practice about which I am concerned.
>>>> You're a funny guy, Jackweed. If you don't like the advise, you know what you can do.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> ADVICE not ADVISE. "jackweed"...
>> Freak you. Freakhead.
>>
>
> Freak? Jackweed? OMFG we have a 3rd grader in the newsgroup!
Sorry to hear you couldn't make it to the 4th grade. Hope things work out for you in the
future.

Re: Why the Spam?

Ok, these may be newbie questions. Can the spam messages be deleted on the
server, or are they stuck here forever, once posted? It would be nice if
there was a moderator that could go through and clean up the messages. It is
difficult sometimes to pick out the good messages (especially here lately).
And I really don't know what the "cmsg cancel" ones are about, but they are
particularly annoying, as they just add to the clutter.


"lyle" wrote in message
news:9150a318-1f32-41c5-a3b2-0e5687b6ada2@l28g2000prd.google groups.com...
On Apr 14, 7:05 pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
> frogste...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Apr 12, 8:58 pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
> >> lyle fairfield wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
> >>>> From GMail, click on
> >>>> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:"
> >>>> text box enter:
> >>>> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click
> >>>> OK when you get the
> >>>> warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
> >>>> checkboxes, and click on
> >>>> the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!
> >>> Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to
> >>> newsgroups?
> >>> That is the practice about which I am concerned.
> >> You're a funny guy, Jackweed. If you don't like the advise, you know
> >> what you can do.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > ADVICE not ADVISE. "jackweed"...
>
> Freak you. Freakhead.

What brilliant wit! I'm glad I've never crossed swords with you!

Re: Why the Spam?

ARC wrote:
> Ok, these may be newbie questions. Can the spam messages be deleted on
> the server, or are they stuck here forever, once posted? It would be
> nice if there was a moderator that could go through and clean up the
> messages. It is difficult sometimes to pick out the good messages
> (especially here lately). And I really don't know what the "cmsg cancel"
> ones are about, but they are particularly annoying, as they just add to
> the clutter.
>
>
> "lyle" wrote in message
> news:9150a318-1f32-41c5-a3b2-0e5687b6ada2@l28g2000prd.google groups.com...
> On Apr 14, 7:05 pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
>> frogste...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > On Apr 12, 8:58 pm, Donald Calloway wrote:
>> >> lyle fairfield wrote:
>> >>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:28:05 -0400, Donald Calloway
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> Here's how to get rid of GMail spam before it hits your spam folder.
>> >>>> From GMail, click on
>> >>>> Settings | Filters | Create a new filter. In the "Has the words:"
>> >>>> text box enter:
>> >>>> "is:spam" without the quotes, the click the Next Step button. Click
>> >>>> OK when you get the
>> >>>> warning dialog box. Check the "Skip the inbox" and "Delete it"
>> >>>> checkboxes, and click on
>> >>>> the Create Filter button. That's it! No more spam!!
>> >>> Does that prevent Gmail account holders from posting spam to >>>
>> newsgroups?
>> >>> That is the practice about which I am concerned.
>> >> You're a funny guy, Jackweed. If you don't like the advise, you
>> know >> what you can do.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > ADVICE not ADVISE. "jackweed"...
>>
>> Freak you. Freakhead.
>
> What brilliant wit! I'm glad I've never crossed swords with you!
>
That is precisely what my directions accomplish.

Re: Why the Spam?

"Donald Calloway" wrote

> That is precisely what my directions accomplish.

Did you describe how we could read newsgroups on gmail? I must have missed
that part.

Reading it on Google Groups is pretty slow.

Larry

Re: Why the Spam?

Larry Linson wrote:
> "Donald Calloway" wrote
>
> > That is precisely what my directions accomplish.
>
> Did you describe how we could read newsgroups on gmail? I must have missed
> that part.
>
> Reading it on Google Groups is pretty slow.
>
> Larry
>
>
No. I described how to turn off Google Spam email before it hits your Spam folder. The
technique I described (which works well) sends Spam directly to your Trash folder where it
is automatically dumped in 30 days. The end result is, there is no Spam to be bothered
with as it all goes to the trash, where it belongs. Google denies this works, but trust
me, it does.