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#1: PPMs on Linux

Posted on 2011-06-20 05:29:40 by lyle

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Hi All,
What is ActiveStates current stance on PPMs for Linux? I remember
some time back reading that it was recommended to use cpan on linux
rather than ppm. Is that still the case? Or am I mistaken?

We are currently researching for a Perl installer that aims to leverage
current Perl module packagers.


Lyle

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Hi All,<br>
&nbsp; What is ActiveStates current stance on PPMs for Linux? I remember
some time back reading that it was recommended to use cpan on linux
rather than ppm. Is that still the case? Or am I mistaken?<br>
<br>
We are currently researching for a Perl installer that aims to
leverage current Perl module packagers.<br>
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<br>
Lyle<br>
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#2: RE: PPMs on Linux

Posted on 2011-06-20 21:11:19 by Jan Dubois

Lyle wrote:
> What is ActiveStates current stance on PPMs for Linux? I remember some
> time back reading that it was recommended to use cpan on linux rather
> than ppm. Is that still the case? Or am I mistaken?

I have no idea where this recommendation is coming from. Using PPM
on Linux should work just fine. For modules not available on PPM
you can try the CPAN shell (or CPANPLUS or cpanminus).

In general the difference is pretty much the same as choosing between
e.g. .deb or .rpm pre-built packages, or compiling from source.

Of course some module will require additional Linux libs to be
pre-installed before you can build the CPAN module. If these
libs are missing from the PPM build machines, then those modules
will fail to build/test, so you have to build the module yourself
(after installing the prerequisite libs, again using either a
package manager, or compiling from source).

Cheers,
-Jan


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#3: Re: PPMs on Linux

Posted on 2011-06-21 00:50:25 by lyle

On 20/06/2011 20:11, Jan Dubois wrote:
> Lyle wrote:
>> What is ActiveStates current stance on PPMs for Linux? I remember some
>> time back reading that it was recommended to use cpan on linux rather
>> than ppm. Is that still the case? Or am I mistaken?
> I have no idea where this recommendation is coming from. Using PPM
> on Linux should work just fine. For modules not available on PPM
> you can try the CPAN shell (or CPANPLUS or cpanminus).

Not sure where I read that then. Maybe it was just a comment on
PerlMonks or something.

> In general the difference is pretty much the same as choosing between
> e.g. .deb or .rpm pre-built packages, or compiling from source.
>
> Of course some module will require additional Linux libs to be
> pre-installed before you can build the CPAN module. If these
> libs are missing from the PPM build machines, then those modules
> will fail to build/test, so you have to build the module yourself
> (after installing the prerequisite libs, again using either a
> package manager, or compiling from source).

We are also considering having the ability to run tests against PPM
installed modules. Extracting the tests from the cpan source archive,
then having the option to run against the installed PPM. Have you heard
of anyone doing this? Do you think we will face many problems?

Thanks for your help Jan, no one knows this kind of stuff better than you.


Lyle

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#4: RE: PPMs on Linux

Posted on 2011-06-21 00:59:11 by Jan Dubois

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Lyle wrote:
> We are also considering having the ability to run tests against PPM
> installed modules. Extracting the tests from the cpan source archive,
> then having the option to run against the installed PPM. Have you
> heard of anyone doing this? Do you think we will face many problems?

That sounds like a lot of extra work. If you want to run the tests,
then I would suggest that you build the modules yourself as well.
That way the CPAN shell will run the tests for you automatically.

Cheers,
-Jan


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#5: Re: PPMs on Linux

Posted on 2011-06-21 01:05:22 by lyle

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On 20/06/2011 23:59, Jan Dubois wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Lyle wrote:
>> We are also considering having the ability to run tests against PPM
>> installed modules. Extracting the tests from the cpan source archive,
>> then having the option to run against the installed PPM. Have you
>> heard of anyone doing this? Do you think we will face many problems?
> That sounds like a lot of extra work. If you want to run the tests,
> then I would suggest that you build the modules yourself as well.
> That way the CPAN shell will run the tests for you automatically

The problem is we are often deploying by FTP and do not have shell or
access to a compiler.


Lyle


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On 20/06/2011 23:59, Jan Dubois wrote:
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cite="mid:028201cc2f9d$aaf62210$00e26630$@activestate.com"
type="cite">
<pre wrap="">On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Lyle wrote:
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">We are also considering having the ability to run tests against PPM
installed modules. Extracting the tests from the cpan source archive,
then having the option to run against the installed PPM. Have you
heard of anyone doing this? Do you think we will face many problems?
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">
That sounds like a lot of extra work. If you want to run the tests,
then I would suggest that you build the modules yourself as well.
That way the CPAN shell will run the tests for you automatically</pre>
</blockquote>
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The problem is we are often deploying by FTP and do not have shell
or access to a compiler.<br>
<br>
<br>
Lyle<br>
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