shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 16.08.2011 17:59:46 von Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz

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as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best

my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.

right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?

Regards,

LD

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Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 16.08.2011 19:02:04 von Reindl Harald

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Am 16.08.2011 17:59, schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
> as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best
>
> my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.
>
> right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?
>
> Regards,
>
> LD
>
why do you believe without any information you will get
a useful answer? "i have a performance problem" is simply
NO information if you even do not tell which storage engine
and wich sort of problem in which context

if you should update can nobody answer for you because we
do not know if you have any crappy apps / scripts which
would have troubles?

we have upgraded some hundret webspaces and two dbmail-servers
in februray becaus we know our self written applications and
having test-environments, if you can do this can nobody say


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Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 16.08.2011 21:55:24 von prabhat kumar

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correct. you have to understand the problem first.
but still its recommendable to always use latest stable version.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

>
>
> Am 16.08.2011 17:59, schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
> > as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best
> >
> > my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.
> >
> > right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > LD
> >
> why do you believe without any information you will get
> a useful answer? "i have a performance problem" is simply
> NO information if you even do not tell which storage engine
> and wich sort of problem in which context
>
> if you should update can nobody answer for you because we
> do not know if you have any crappy apps / scripts which
> would have troubles?
>
> we have upgraded some hundret webspaces and two dbmail-servers
> in februray becaus we know our self written applications and
> having test-environments, if you can do this can nobody say
>
>


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MySQL DBA

My Blog: http://adminlinux.blogspot.com
My LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/profileprabhat

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Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 16.08.2011 22:04:57 von Alvin Ramos

I've been running some bench marking between 5.1 and 5.5 myself and haven't n=
otice any huge performance improvements on 5.5. Even though white papers cla=
im it put performs 5.1. Any noticing the same or have some input in my findi=
ngs?

Regards,
Alvin

On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Prabhat Kumar wrote:

> correct. you have to understand the problem first.
> but still its recommendable to always use latest stable version.
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> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Reindl Harald wr=
ote:
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>>=20
>>=20
>> Am 16.08.2011 17:59, schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
>>> as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best
>>>=20
>>> my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.
>>>=20
>>> right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?
>>>=20
>>> Regards,
>>>=20
>>> LD
>>>=20
>> why do you believe without any information you will get
>> a useful answer? "i have a performance problem" is simply
>> NO information if you even do not tell which storage engine
>> and wich sort of problem in which context
>>=20
>> if you should update can nobody answer for you because we
>> do not know if you have any crappy apps / scripts which
>> would have troubles?
>>=20
>> we have upgraded some hundret webspaces and two dbmail-servers
>> in februray becaus we know our self written applications and
>> having test-environments, if you can do this can nobody say
>>=20
>>=20
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>=20
> --=20
> Best Regards,
>=20
> Prabhat Kumar
> MySQL DBA
>=20
> My Blog: http://adminlinux.blogspot.com
> My LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/profileprabhat


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RE: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 16.08.2011 23:28:03 von Alvin Ramos

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I know my previous email was vague, it was sent via smartphone. =
Iâ€=99ve got a simple PHP page pulling information from one of =
larger database tables:

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Iâ€=99ve got apache benchmark then running 5 concurrent connections =
10,000 times. I changed the $host to the IP for the 5.5 server then to =
the 5.1 server and here are one of my many results:

=20

5.1 results:

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Server Software: Apache/2.2.3

Server Hostname: aramos.dev

Server Port: 80

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Document Path: /mysqlfetch51.php

Document Length: 35808 bytes

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Concurrency Level: 5

Time taken for tests: 3263.909079 seconds

Complete requests: 10000

Failed requests: 0

Write errors: 0

Total transferred: 359640000 bytes

HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes

Requests per second: 3.06 [#/sec] (mean)

Time per request: 1631.955 [ms] (mean)

Time per request: 326.391 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent =
requests)

Transfer rate: 107.60 [Kbytes/sec] received

=20

Connection Times (ms)

min mean[+/-sd] median max

Connect: 0 1 2.3 1 155

Processing: 593 1629 699.7 1524 13580

Waiting: 574 1611 699.7 1506 13562

Total: 595 1630 699.7 1526 13580

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Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)

50% 1526

66% 1725

75% 1856

80% 1944

90% 2215

95% 2559

98% 4339

99% 4741

100% 13580 (longest request)

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5.5 results:

=20

erver Software: Apache/2.2.3

Server Hostname: aramos.dev

Server Port: 80

=20

Document Path: /mysqlfetch.php

Document Length: 35808 bytes

=20

Concurrency Level: 5

Time taken for tests: 3400.300474 seconds

Complete requests: 10000

Failed requests: 0

Write errors: 0

Total transferred: 359640000 bytes

HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes

Requests per second: 2.94 [#/sec] (mean)

Time per request: 1700.150 [ms] (mean)

Time per request: 340.030 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent =
requests)

Transfer rate: 103.29 [Kbytes/sec] received

=20

Connection Times (ms)

min mean[+/-sd] median max

Connect: 0 1 2.7 1 168

Processing: 595 1697 724.8 1598 14505

Waiting: 577 1679 724.8 1580 14486

Total: 596 1698 724.8 1600 14506

=20

Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)

50% 1600

66% 1799

75% 1939

80% 2028

90% 2314

95% 2640

98% 4387

99% 4805

100% 14506 (longest request)

=20

=20

Iâ€=99ve ran tests even against our web sites and its slower than =
the 5.1 server. Any suggestions, anything I should change on the 5.5 =
server? The hardware and OS is identical from the 5.1 server. Thanks!

=20

Alvin Ramos

=20

From: wang@pythian.com [mailto:wang@pythian.com] On Behalf Of Singer =
X.J. Wang
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:08 PM
To: Alvin Ramos
Cc: Prabhat Kumar; Reindl Harald; mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

=20

Are you doing concurrent workloads?



On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 16:04, Alvin Ramos =
wrote:

I've been running some bench marking between 5.1 and 5.5 myself and =
haven't notice any huge performance improvements on 5.5. Even though =
white papers claim it put performs 5.1. Any noticing the same or have =
some input in my findings?

Regards,
Alvin


On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Prabhat Kumar =
wrote:

> correct. you have to understand the problem first.
> but still its recommendable to always use latest stable version.
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Reindl Harald =
wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am 16.08.2011 17:59, schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
>>> as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best
>>>
>>> my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.
>>>
>>> right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> LD
>>>
>> why do you believe without any information you will get
>> a useful answer? "i have a performance problem" is simply
>> NO information if you even do not tell which storage engine
>> and wich sort of problem in which context
>>
>> if you should update can nobody answer for you because we
>> do not know if you have any crappy apps / scripts which
>> would have troubles?
>>
>> we have upgraded some hundret webspaces and two dbmail-servers
>> in februray becaus we know our self written applications and
>> having test-environments, if you can do this can nobody say
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> Prabhat Kumar
> MySQL DBA
>
> My Blog: http://adminlinux.blogspot.com
> My LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/profileprabhat



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Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 16.08.2011 23:33:11 von Reindl Harald

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you noticed that most optimizing in 5.5 affects InnoDB
and if you are using MyISAm in your benchmark it
is useless?

having MySQL 5.5 running on InnoDB with some GB big tables
and REALLY concuerrent load as for a mailserver (dbmail)
you will notice a hughe performance increasment

Am 16.08.2011 23:28, schrieb Alvin Ramos:
> I know my previous email was vague, it was sent via smartphone. =20
> Iâ€=99ve got a simple PHP page pulling information from one of larg=
er database tables:
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> =20
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> =20
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> =20
>=20
> // set server access variables
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> $host =3D "127.0.0.1";
>=20
> $user =3D "web";
>=20
> $pass =3D "password";
>=20
> $db =3D "md ";
>=20
> =20
>=20
> // open connections to database
>=20
> $connect =3D mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass) or die ("Unable to conn=
ect!");
>=20
> =20
>=20
> // select database to use
>=20
> mysql_select_db($db) or die ("Unable to select database!");
>=20
> =20
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> // create SQL query string
>=20
> $query =3D "SELECT * FROM members limit 1000";
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> =20
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> //execute query and obtain result set
>=20
> $result =3D mysql_query($query) or die ("Error in query: $query. " . my=
sql_error());
>=20
> =20
>=20
> // are there any rows in the result?
>=20
> if (mysql_num_rows($result) > 0)
>=20
> {
>=20
> // yes
>=20
> // iterate through result set
>=20
> // format query results as table
>=20
> echo "

";
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> while($row =3D mysql_fetch_assoc($result))
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> echo "";
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> }
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> echo "
" . $row['member_id'] . "" . $row['fname'] . "
";
>=20
> }
>=20
> else
>=20
> {
>=20
> // no
>=20
> // print status message
>=20
> echo "NO rows found!";
>=20
> }
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> =20
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> // close connection
>=20
> mysql_close($connect);
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> =20
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> ?>
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> =20
>=20
>
>=20
>
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Iâ€=99ve got apache benchmark then running 5 concurrent connections=
10,000 times. I changed the $host to the IP for the 5.5 server then to =
the 5.1 server and here are one of my many results:
>=20
> =20
>=20
> 5.1 results:
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Server Software: Apache/2.2.3
>=20
> Server Hostname: aramos.dev
>=20
> Server Port: 80
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Document Path: /mysqlfetch51.php
>=20
> Document Length: 35808 bytes
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Concurrency Level: 5
>=20
> Time taken for tests: 3263.909079 seconds
>=20
> Complete requests: 10000
>=20
> Failed requests: 0
>=20
> Write errors: 0
>=20
> Total transferred: 359640000 bytes
>=20
> HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes
>=20
> Requests per second: 3.06 [#/sec] (mean)
>=20
> Time per request: 1631.955 [ms] (mean)
>=20
> Time per request: 326.391 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reque=
sts)
>=20
> Transfer rate: 107.60 [Kbytes/sec] received
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Connection Times (ms)
>=20
> min mean[+/-sd] median max
>=20
> Connect: 0 1 2.3 1 155
>=20
> Processing: 593 1629 699.7 1524 13580
>=20
> Waiting: 574 1611 699.7 1506 13562
>=20
> Total: 595 1630 699.7 1526 13580
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
>=20
> 50% 1526
>=20
> 66% 1725
>=20
> 75% 1856
>=20
> 80% 1944
>=20
> 90% 2215
>=20
> 95% 2559
>=20
> 98% 4339
>=20
> 99% 4741
>=20
> 100% 13580 (longest request)
>=20
> =20
>=20
> 5.5 results:
>=20
> =20
>=20
> erver Software: Apache/2.2.3
>=20
> Server Hostname: aramos.dev
>=20
> Server Port: 80
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Document Path: /mysqlfetch.php
>=20
> Document Length: 35808 bytes
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Concurrency Level: 5
>=20
> Time taken for tests: 3400.300474 seconds
>=20
> Complete requests: 10000
>=20
> Failed requests: 0
>=20
> Write errors: 0
>=20
> Total transferred: 359640000 bytes
>=20
> HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes
>=20
> Requests per second: 2.94 [#/sec] (mean)
>=20
> Time per request: 1700.150 [ms] (mean)
>=20
> Time per request: 340.030 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent reque=
sts)
>=20
> Transfer rate: 103.29 [Kbytes/sec] received
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Connection Times (ms)
>=20
> min mean[+/-sd] median max
>=20
> Connect: 0 1 2.7 1 168
>=20
> Processing: 595 1697 724.8 1598 14505
>=20
> Waiting: 577 1679 724.8 1580 14486
>=20
> Total: 596 1698 724.8 1600 14506
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
>=20
> 50% 1600
>=20
> 66% 1799
>=20
> 75% 1939
>=20
> 80% 2028
>=20
> 90% 2314
>=20
> 95% 2640
>=20
> 98% 4387
>=20
> 99% 4805
>=20
> 100% 14506 (longest request)
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Iâ€=99ve ran tests even against our web sites and its slower than t=
he 5.1 server. Any suggestions, anything I should change on the 5.5 serv=
er? The hardware and OS is identical from the 5.1 server. Thanks!
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Alvin Ramos
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: wang@pythian.com [mailto:wang@pythian.com] On Behalf Of Singer X.=
J. Wang
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:08 PM
> To: Alvin Ramos
> Cc: Prabhat Kumar; Reindl Harald; mysql@lists.mysql.com
> Subject: Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Are you doing concurrent workloads?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 16:04, Alvin Ramos =
wrote:
>=20
> I've been running some bench marking between 5.1 and 5.5 myself and hav=
en't notice any huge performance improvements on 5.5. Even though white p=
apers claim it put performs 5.1. Any noticing the same or have some input=
in my findings?
>=20
> Regards,
> Alvin
>=20
>=20
> On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Prabhat Kumar wrot=
e:
>=20
>> correct. you have to understand the problem first.
>> but still its recommendable to always use latest stable version.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Reindl Harald t>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 16.08.2011 17:59, schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
>>>> as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best
>>>>
>>>> my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.
>>>>
>>>> right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> LD
>>>>
>>> why do you believe without any information you will get
>>> a useful answer? "i have a performance problem" is simply
>>> NO information if you even do not tell which storage engine
>>> and wich sort of problem in which context
>>>
>>> if you should update can nobody answer for you because we
>>> do not know if you have any crappy apps / scripts which
>>> would have troubles?
>>>
>>> we have upgraded some hundret webspaces and two dbmail-servers
>>> in februray becaus we know our self written applications and
>>> having test-environments, if you can do this can nobody say
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Prabhat Kumar
>> MySQL DBA
>>
>> My Blog: http://adminlinux.blogspot.com
>> My LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/profileprabhat
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Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 17.08.2011 01:57:14 von Johnny Withers

This is a poor benchmark because the query never changes. Query cache takes o=
ver after first request.=20

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 16, 2011, at 4:28 PM, "Alvin Ramos" wrot=
e:

> I know my previous email was vague, it was sent via smartphone. Iâ€=99=
ve got a simple PHP page pulling information from one of larger database tab=
les:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> PHP Code:
>=20
>=20
>=20
>
>=20
>
>=20
>
>=20
>
>=20
>=20
>=20
>
>=20
>=20
>=20
> >=20
>=20
>=20
> // set server access variables
>=20
> $host =3D "127.0.0.1";
>=20
> $user =3D "web";
>=20
> $pass =3D "password";
>=20
> $db =3D "md ";
>=20
>=20
>=20
> // open connections to database
>=20
> $connect =3D mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass) or die ("Unable to connect=
!");
>=20
>=20
>=20
> // select database to use
>=20
> mysql_select_db($db) or die ("Unable to select database!");
>=20
>=20
>=20
> // create SQL query string
>=20
> $query =3D "SELECT * FROM members limit 1000";
>=20
>=20
>=20
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_error());
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> // print status message
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>=20
> Iâ€=99ve got apache benchmark then running 5 concurrent connections 10=
,000 times. I changed the $host to the IP for the 5.5 server then to the 5.=
1 server and here are one of my many results:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 5.1 results:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Server Software: Apache/2.2.3
>=20
> Server Hostname: aramos.dev
>=20
> Server Port: 80
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Document Path: /mysqlfetch51.php
>=20
> Document Length: 35808 bytes
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Concurrency Level: 5
>=20
> Time taken for tests: 3263.909079 seconds
>=20
> Complete requests: 10000
>=20
> Failed requests: 0
>=20
> Write errors: 0
>=20
> Total transferred: 359640000 bytes
>=20
> HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes
>=20
> Requests per second: 3.06 [#/sec] (mean)
>=20
> Time per request: 1631.955 [ms] (mean)
>=20
> Time per request: 326.391 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent requests=
)
>=20
> Transfer rate: 107.60 [Kbytes/sec] received
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Connection Times (ms)
>=20
> min mean[+/-sd] median max
>=20
> Connect: 0 1 2.3 1 155
>=20
> Processing: 593 1629 699.7 1524 13580
>=20
> Waiting: 574 1611 699.7 1506 13562
>=20
> Total: 595 1630 699.7 1526 13580
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
>=20
> 50% 1526
>=20
> 66% 1725
>=20
> 75% 1856
>=20
> 80% 1944
>=20
> 90% 2215
>=20
> 95% 2559
>=20
> 98% 4339
>=20
> 99% 4741
>=20
> 100% 13580 (longest request)
>=20
>=20
>=20
> 5.5 results:
>=20
>=20
>=20
> erver Software: Apache/2.2.3
>=20
> Server Hostname: aramos.dev
>=20
> Server Port: 80
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Document Path: /mysqlfetch.php
>=20
> Document Length: 35808 bytes
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Concurrency Level: 5
>=20
> Time taken for tests: 3400.300474 seconds
>=20
> Complete requests: 10000
>=20
> Failed requests: 0
>=20
> Write errors: 0
>=20
> Total transferred: 359640000 bytes
>=20
> HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes
>=20
> Requests per second: 2.94 [#/sec] (mean)
>=20
> Time per request: 1700.150 [ms] (mean)
>=20
> Time per request: 340.030 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent requests=
)
>=20
> Transfer rate: 103.29 [Kbytes/sec] received
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Connection Times (ms)
>=20
> min mean[+/-sd] median max
>=20
> Connect: 0 1 2.7 1 168
>=20
> Processing: 595 1697 724.8 1598 14505
>=20
> Waiting: 577 1679 724.8 1580 14486
>=20
> Total: 596 1698 724.8 1600 14506
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
>=20
> 50% 1600
>=20
> 66% 1799
>=20
> 75% 1939
>=20
> 80% 2028
>=20
> 90% 2314
>=20
> 95% 2640
>=20
> 98% 4387
>=20
> 99% 4805
>=20
> 100% 14506 (longest request)
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Iâ€=99ve ran tests even against our web sites and its slower than the 5=
..1 server. Any suggestions, anything I should change on the 5.5 server? Th=
e hardware and OS is identical from the 5.1 server. Thanks!
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Alvin Ramos
>=20
>=20
>=20
> From: wang@pythian.com [mailto:wang@pythian.com] On Behalf Of Singer X.J. W=
ang
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:08 PM
> To: Alvin Ramos
> Cc: Prabhat Kumar; Reindl Harald; mysql@lists.mysql.com
> Subject: Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Are you doing concurrent workloads?
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 16:04, Alvin Ramos wr=
ote:
>=20
> I've been running some bench marking between 5.1 and 5.5 myself and haven'=
t notice any huge performance improvements on 5.5. Even though white papers c=
laim it put performs 5.1. Any noticing the same or have some input in my fin=
dings?
>=20
> Regards,
> Alvin
>=20
>=20
> On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Prabhat Kumar wrote:
>=20
>> correct. you have to understand the problem first.
>> but still its recommendable to always use latest stable version.
>>=20
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Reindl Harald w=
rote:
>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Am 16.08.2011 17:59, schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
>>>> as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best
>>>>=20
>>>> my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.
>>>>=20
>>>> right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?
>>>>=20
>>>> Regards,
>>>>=20
>>>> LD
>>>>=20
>>> why do you believe without any information you will get
>>> a useful answer? "i have a performance problem" is simply
>>> NO information if you even do not tell which storage engine
>>> and wich sort of problem in which context
>>>=20
>>> if you should update can nobody answer for you because we
>>> do not know if you have any crappy apps / scripts which
>>> would have troubles?
>>>=20
>>> we have upgraded some hundret webspaces and two dbmail-servers
>>> in februray becaus we know our self written applications and
>>> having test-environments, if you can do this can nobody say
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>>=20
>> Prabhat Kumar
>> MySQL DBA
>>=20
>> My Blog: http://adminlinux.blogspot.com
>> My LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/profileprabhat
>=20
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Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 17.08.2011 04:59:40 von Alvin Ramos

Thanks for the suggestions. I will change the tables to in innodb and change=
my php coding. Then I will revisit the benchmarking with hopefully improvin=
g results. Thanks again!

Regards,
Alvin

On Aug 16, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Johnny Withers wrote:

> This is a poor benchmark because the query never changes. Query cache take=
s over after first request.=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPad
>=20
> On Aug 16, 2011, at 4:28 PM, "Alvin Ramos" wr=
ote:
>=20
>> I know my previous email was vague, it was sent via smartphone. Iâ€=99=
ve got a simple PHP page pulling information from one of larger database tab=
les:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> PHP Code:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>
>>=20
>>
>>=20
>>
>>=20
>>
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> >>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> // set server access variables
>>=20
>> $host =3D "127.0.0.1";
>>=20
>> $user =3D "web";
>>=20
>> $pass =3D "password";
>>=20
>> $db =3D "md ";
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> // open connections to database
>>=20
>> $connect =3D mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass) or die ("Unable to connec=
t!");
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> // select database to use
>>=20
>> mysql_select_db($db) or die ("Unable to select database!");
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> // create SQL query string
>>=20
>> $query =3D "SELECT * FROM members limit 1000";
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> //execute query and obtain result set
>>=20
>> $result =3D mysql_query($query) or die ("Error in query: $query. " . mysq=
l_error());
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> // are there any rows in the result?
>>=20
>> if (mysql_num_rows($result) > 0)
>>=20
>> {
>>=20
>> // yes
>>=20
>> // iterate through result set
>>=20
>> // format query results as table
>>=20
>> echo "

";
>>=20
>> while($row =3D mysql_fetch_assoc($result))
>>=20
>> {
>>=20
>> echo "";
>>=20
>> echo "";
>>=20
>> echo "";
>>=20
>> echo "";
>>=20
>> }
>>=20
>> echo "
" . $row['member_id'] . "" . $row['fname'] . "
";
>>=20
>> }
>>=20
>> else
>>=20
>> {
>>=20
>> // no
>>=20
>> // print status message
>>=20
>> echo "NO rows found!";
>>=20
>> }
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> // close connection
>>=20
>> mysql_close($connect);
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> ?>
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>
>>=20
>>
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Iâ€=99ve got apache benchmark then running 5 concurrent connections 1=
0,000 times. I changed the $host to the IP for the 5.5 server then to the 5=
..1 server and here are one of my many results:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> 5.1 results:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Server Software: Apache/2.2.3
>>=20
>> Server Hostname: aramos.dev
>>=20
>> Server Port: 80
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Document Path: /mysqlfetch51.php
>>=20
>> Document Length: 35808 bytes
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Concurrency Level: 5
>>=20
>> Time taken for tests: 3263.909079 seconds
>>=20
>> Complete requests: 10000
>>=20
>> Failed requests: 0
>>=20
>> Write errors: 0
>>=20
>> Total transferred: 359640000 bytes
>>=20
>> HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes
>>=20
>> Requests per second: 3.06 [#/sec] (mean)
>>=20
>> Time per request: 1631.955 [ms] (mean)
>>=20
>> Time per request: 326.391 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent request=
s)
>>=20
>> Transfer rate: 107.60 [Kbytes/sec] received
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Connection Times (ms)
>>=20
>> min mean[+/-sd] median max
>>=20
>> Connect: 0 1 2.3 1 155
>>=20
>> Processing: 593 1629 699.7 1524 13580
>>=20
>> Waiting: 574 1611 699.7 1506 13562
>>=20
>> Total: 595 1630 699.7 1526 13580
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
>>=20
>> 50% 1526
>>=20
>> 66% 1725
>>=20
>> 75% 1856
>>=20
>> 80% 1944
>>=20
>> 90% 2215
>>=20
>> 95% 2559
>>=20
>> 98% 4339
>>=20
>> 99% 4741
>>=20
>> 100% 13580 (longest request)
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> 5.5 results:
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> erver Software: Apache/2.2.3
>>=20
>> Server Hostname: aramos.dev
>>=20
>> Server Port: 80
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Document Path: /mysqlfetch.php
>>=20
>> Document Length: 35808 bytes
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Concurrency Level: 5
>>=20
>> Time taken for tests: 3400.300474 seconds
>>=20
>> Complete requests: 10000
>>=20
>> Failed requests: 0
>>=20
>> Write errors: 0
>>=20
>> Total transferred: 359640000 bytes
>>=20
>> HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes
>>=20
>> Requests per second: 2.94 [#/sec] (mean)
>>=20
>> Time per request: 1700.150 [ms] (mean)
>>=20
>> Time per request: 340.030 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent request=
s)
>>=20
>> Transfer rate: 103.29 [Kbytes/sec] received
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Connection Times (ms)
>>=20
>> min mean[+/-sd] median max
>>=20
>> Connect: 0 1 2.7 1 168
>>=20
>> Processing: 595 1697 724.8 1598 14505
>>=20
>> Waiting: 577 1679 724.8 1580 14486
>>=20
>> Total: 596 1698 724.8 1600 14506
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
>>=20
>> 50% 1600
>>=20
>> 66% 1799
>>=20
>> 75% 1939
>>=20
>> 80% 2028
>>=20
>> 90% 2314
>>=20
>> 95% 2640
>>=20
>> 98% 4387
>>=20
>> 99% 4805
>>=20
>> 100% 14506 (longest request)
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Iâ€=99ve ran tests even against our web sites and its slower than the=
5.1 server. Any suggestions, anything I should change on the 5.5 server? T=
he hardware and OS is identical from the 5.1 server. Thanks!
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Alvin Ramos
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> From: wang@pythian.com [mailto:wang@pythian.com] On Behalf Of Singer X.J.=
Wang
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:08 PM
>> To: Alvin Ramos
>> Cc: Prabhat Kumar; Reindl Harald; mysql@lists.mysql.com
>> Subject: Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Are you doing concurrent workloads?
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 16:04, Alvin Ramos w=
rote:
>>=20
>> I've been running some bench marking between 5.1 and 5.5 myself and haven=
't notice any huge performance improvements on 5.5. Even though white papers=
claim it put performs 5.1. Any noticing the same or have some input in my f=
indings?
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Alvin
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Prabhat Kumar wrote:=

>>=20
>>> correct. you have to understand the problem first.
>>> but still its recommendable to always use latest stable version.
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Reindl Harald =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Am 16.08.2011 17:59, schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
>>>>> as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best
>>>>>=20
>>>>> my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> LD
>>>>>=20
>>>> why do you believe without any information you will get
>>>> a useful answer? "i have a performance problem" is simply
>>>> NO information if you even do not tell which storage engine
>>>> and wich sort of problem in which context
>>>>=20
>>>> if you should update can nobody answer for you because we
>>>> do not know if you have any crappy apps / scripts which
>>>> would have troubles?
>>>>=20
>>>> we have upgraded some hundret webspaces and two dbmail-servers
>>>> in februray becaus we know our self written applications and
>>>> having test-environments, if you can do this can nobody say
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>>=20
>>> Prabhat Kumar
>>> MySQL DBA
>>>=20
>>> My Blog: http://adminlinux.blogspot.com
>>> My LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/profileprabhat
>>=20
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Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5

am 17.08.2011 09:07:07 von Reindl Harald

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you are acting blindly

if would recommend that YOU stay at 5.1 and do not touch things
you do not understand as long we are speaking about production servers

why will you change to innodb?
you know about the differences (fulltext search..)?
you know that for most web-load MyISAM is faster?

you know that InnoDB in 5.5 is targeted to be as fast as MyISAM
and for you will not happen the wonder it outperforms it
on typical workloads

sorry, but you do not know anything about what you are doing and how
a database server works (the only explanation for what you are calling
a benchmark) and nobody is blindly changing storage-engines for
performance reasons

Am 17.08.2011 04:59, schrieb Alvin Ramos:
> Thanks for the suggestions. I will change the tables to in innodb=20
> and change my php coding. Then I will revisit the benchmarking with hop=
efully improving results. Thanks again!
>=20
> Regards,
> Alvin
>=20
> On Aug 16, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Johnny Withers wrot=
e:
>=20
>> This is a poor benchmark because the query never changes. Query cache =
takes over after first request.=20
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 4:28 PM, "Alvin Ramos" > wrote:
>>
>>> I know my previous email was vague, it was sent via smartphone. I=E2=
€™ve got a simple PHP page pulling information from one of larger dat=
abase tables:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PHP Code:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>
>>> // set server access variables
>>>
>>> $host =3D "127.0.0.1";
>>>
>>> $user =3D "web";
>>>
>>> $pass =3D "password";
>>>
>>> $db =3D "md ";
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> // open connections to database
>>>
>>> $connect =3D mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass) or die ("Unable to co=
nnect!");
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> // select database to use
>>>
>>> mysql_select_db($db) or die ("Unable to select database!");
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> // create SQL query string
>>>
>>> $query =3D "SELECT * FROM members limit 1000";
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> //execute query and obtain result set
>>>
>>> $result =3D mysql_query($query) or die ("Error in query: $query. " . =
mysql_error());
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> // are there any rows in the result?
>>>
>>> if (mysql_num_rows($result) > 0)
>>>
>>> {
>>>
>>> // yes
>>>
>>> // iterate through result set
>>>
>>> // format query results as table
>>>
>>> echo "

";
>>>
>>> while($row =3D mysql_fetch_assoc($result))
>>>
>>> {
>>>
>>> echo "";
>>>
>>> echo "";
>>>
>>> echo "";
>>>
>>> echo "";
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> echo "
" . $row['member_id'] . "" . $row['fname'] . "
";
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>> else
>>>
>>> {
>>>
>>> // no
>>>
>>> // print status message
>>>
>>> echo "NO rows found!";
>>>
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> // close connection
>>>
>>> mysql_close($connect);
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ?>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Iâ€=99ve got apache benchmark then running 5 concurrent connectio=
ns 10,000 times. I changed the $host to the IP for the 5.5 server then t=
o the 5.1 server and here are one of my many results:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5.1 results:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Server Software: Apache/2.2.3
>>>
>>> Server Hostname: aramos.dev
>>>
>>> Server Port: 80
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Document Path: /mysqlfetch51.php
>>>
>>> Document Length: 35808 bytes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Concurrency Level: 5
>>>
>>> Time taken for tests: 3263.909079 seconds
>>>
>>> Complete requests: 10000
>>>
>>> Failed requests: 0
>>>
>>> Write errors: 0
>>>
>>> Total transferred: 359640000 bytes
>>>
>>> HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes
>>>
>>> Requests per second: 3.06 [#/sec] (mean)
>>>
>>> Time per request: 1631.955 [ms] (mean)
>>>
>>> Time per request: 326.391 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent req=
uests)
>>>
>>> Transfer rate: 107.60 [Kbytes/sec] received
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Connection Times (ms)
>>>
>>> min mean[+/-sd] median max
>>>
>>> Connect: 0 1 2.3 1 155
>>>
>>> Processing: 593 1629 699.7 1524 13580
>>>
>>> Waiting: 574 1611 699.7 1506 13562
>>>
>>> Total: 595 1630 699.7 1526 13580
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
>>>
>>> 50% 1526
>>>
>>> 66% 1725
>>>
>>> 75% 1856
>>>
>>> 80% 1944
>>>
>>> 90% 2215
>>>
>>> 95% 2559
>>>
>>> 98% 4339
>>>
>>> 99% 4741
>>>
>>> 100% 13580 (longest request)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5.5 results:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> erver Software: Apache/2.2.3
>>>
>>> Server Hostname: aramos.dev
>>>
>>> Server Port: 80
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Document Path: /mysqlfetch.php
>>>
>>> Document Length: 35808 bytes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Concurrency Level: 5
>>>
>>> Time taken for tests: 3400.300474 seconds
>>>
>>> Complete requests: 10000
>>>
>>> Failed requests: 0
>>>
>>> Write errors: 0
>>>
>>> Total transferred: 359640000 bytes
>>>
>>> HTML transferred: 358080000 bytes
>>>
>>> Requests per second: 2.94 [#/sec] (mean)
>>>
>>> Time per request: 1700.150 [ms] (mean)
>>>
>>> Time per request: 340.030 [ms] (mean, across all concurrent req=
uests)
>>>
>>> Transfer rate: 103.29 [Kbytes/sec] received
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Connection Times (ms)
>>>
>>> min mean[+/-sd] median max
>>>
>>> Connect: 0 1 2.7 1 168
>>>
>>> Processing: 595 1697 724.8 1598 14505
>>>
>>> Waiting: 577 1679 724.8 1580 14486
>>>
>>> Total: 596 1698 724.8 1600 14506
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Percentage of the requests served within a certain time (ms)
>>>
>>> 50% 1600
>>>
>>> 66% 1799
>>>
>>> 75% 1939
>>>
>>> 80% 2028
>>>
>>> 90% 2314
>>>
>>> 95% 2640
>>>
>>> 98% 4387
>>>
>>> 99% 4805
>>>
>>> 100% 14506 (longest request)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Iâ€=99ve ran tests even against our web sites and its slower than=
the 5.1 server. Any suggestions, anything I should change on the 5.5 se=
rver? The hardware and OS is identical from the 5.1 server. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alvin Ramos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: wang@pythian.com [mailto:wang@pythian.com] On Behalf Of Singer =
X.J. Wang
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:08 PM
>>> To: Alvin Ramos
>>> Cc: Prabhat Kumar; Reindl Harald; mysql@lists.mysql.com
>>> Subject: Re: shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you doing concurrent workloads?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 16:04, Alvin Ramos m> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been running some bench marking between 5.1 and 5.5 myself and h=
aven't notice any huge performance improvements on 5.5. Even though white=
papers claim it put performs 5.1. Any noticing the same or have some inp=
ut in my findings?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alvin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Prabhat Kumar wr=
ote:
>>>
>>>> correct. you have to understand the problem first.
>>>> but still its recommendable to always use latest stable version.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Reindl Harald net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 16.08.2011 17:59, schrieb Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
>>>>>> as far as my readings, they claim that 5.5 is the best
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my question is, shall i jump from 5.1 to 5.5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> right now i have a performance problem, would 5.5 help me in that?=

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LD
>>>>>>
>>>>> why do you believe without any information you will get
>>>>> a useful answer? "i have a performance problem" is simply
>>>>> NO information if you even do not tell which storage engine
>>>>> and wich sort of problem in which context
>>>>>
>>>>> if you should update can nobody answer for you because we
>>>>> do not know if you have any crappy apps / scripts which
>>>>> would have troubles?
>>>>>
>>>>> we have upgraded some hundret webspaces and two dbmail-servers
>>>>> in februray becaus we know our self written applications and
>>>>> having test-environments, if you can do this can nobody say
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
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>>>> MySQL DBA
>>>>
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>>>> My LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/profileprabhat
>>>
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