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> *sigh*
>
>> Why are you not closing your tag ?
>
> Did you actually TRY the code? Did you know that a | can be closed
> with
> a , or can be left unclosed?
>
>> Why are you thinking the Id is a Long?, maybe it can be a AN field ?
>
> So an autonumber *COLUMN* can't be cast as a Long? Why not?
>
>> And why not closing your | tag when there are no records ?
>
> Again, please TRY the code before trying to come up with criticisms. All
> of
> the criticisms I have of your code are in the FAQ.
>
>> Code is only perfect if it is tested for a long time. Here we help people
>> with idea's.
>
> And if someone posts bad ideas, do you think it's better to correct them,
> or
> to let the user think they are good ideas?
>
> --
> http://www.aspfaq.com/
> (Reverse address to reply.)
>
>
Re: Create html tableam 25.11.2004 17:02:52 von ten.xoc
> Somewhere in a group i read that someone call you a 'wisy nouse' or
> something like that. I think i must say he is right.
I have absolutely no idea what a 'wisy nouse' is, so I'll take your word for
it.
> Maybe you are a MVP in SQL Server, however in HTML ???
Actually, I was an ASP MVP for several years before I changed ranks.
> If the tag is closed by the | | , then why you close it the first
time
> correctly and not the second time?
If you actually TRY the code, you will see that all and | tags are
properly closed
Can you stop criticizing my code with nonsense at least until you try and
run the code, view the source, and see how wrong you are?
> If you see in the examples multiple ID are 1, how can it be a autonumber
> column?
Well, you were the one who said:
"Why are you thinking the Id is a Long?, maybe it can be a AN field ?"
I have no idea what else you could mean be "AN field [sic]"... maybe you
could enlighten us? And explain where you were going with that argument in
the first place?
> "come up with criticisms" Who replyed with "Ugh, I don't know where to
> begin...." and starts criticisms on me.
Look, Maarten, you used several techniques which have been proven time and
time again to be inefficient, and sometimes cause problems. Many of them
have been listed at www.aspfaq.com for years. And I'm pretty sure if you
took a show of hands, you would see that most people here trust that source.
> Aaron, if my way of solving the problem is not the right one, then you can
> tell this to the group on a more subtle way. Now you act like i'm a
> criminal. And after all, my code is maybe not the perfect one, she solve
the
> problem and i was the first to reply.
Actually, Raydan posted before you, and you and I posted at the same time.
Besides, it's not a race. Grow up.
Re: Create html tableam 25.11.2004 17:14:06 von ten.xoc
> If you actually TRY the code, you will see that all and | tags are
> properly closed
....all with | s (which work the same, try it!). Also visit the HTML spec
which doesn't dictate that end tags are necessary. I also didn't capitalize
the words do, while, not, etc. Surprised you didn't try to turn that into a
criticism as well.
> Look, Maarten, you used several techniques which have been proven time and
> time again to be inefficient, and sometimes cause problems. Many of them
> have been listed at www.aspfaq.com for years. And I'm pretty sure if you
> took a show of hands, you would see that most people here trust that
source.
To wit:
Why in most cases you shouldn't use ADODB.Recordset:
http://www.aspfaq.com/2191
Why you should never use SELECT *:
http://www.aspfaq.com/2096
Why you should avoid DISTINCT:
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2424#db
(look for "Avoid DISTINCT")
Why you shouldn't nest recordsets:
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2424#db
(Look for "Do not nest recordsets in ASP!")
Just because your code works, and you were able to post it quickly, doesn't
make it something others should learn from.
Re: Create html tableam 25.11.2004 19:28:18 von maarten
> Why in most cases you shouldn't use ADODB.Recordset:
> http://www.aspfaq.com/2191
>
> Why you should never use SELECT *:
> http://www.aspfaq.com/2096
>
> Why you should avoid DISTINCT:
> http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2424#db
> (look for "Avoid DISTINCT")
>
> Why you shouldn't nest recordsets:
> http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2424#db
> (Look for "Do not nest recordsets in ASP!")
>
I'm very sorry. This is what aspFaq tells. Check Google and read the
opposite in many sites. Most of then advise SELECT * instead of Column for
speed. DISTINCT instead of GROUP BY, pffff.
Bizar if you check the SQL code generated for a query by lets say Access, or
Cristal Reports they both choose for DISTINCT?
After all your and my code do the job. Maybe in some case yours faster than
mine. Who cares because after all the hardware is the big factor.
The Bible or the Koran are both holy for them who believe in. Who tell which
is realy the one?
I believe you are one of the author of aspFaq, so it is normal that this
site is the holy one for you.
Maybe you are a experient MVP, as person you have a lot to learn. In the
first place, respect.
Re: Create html tableam 25.11.2004 19:32:51 von ten.xoc
> I'm very sorry. This is what aspFaq tells. Check Google and read the
> opposite in many sites. Most of then advise SELECT * instead of Column for
> speed. DISTINCT instead of GROUP BY, pffff.
Can you show some examples?
> Bizar if you check the SQL code generated for a query by lets say Access,
or
> Cristal Reports they both choose for DISTINCT?
Catering to bad database design. You shouldn't NEED distinct, and you
certainly shouldn't encourage it when you don't know it's necessary.
> After all your and my code do the job. Maybe in some case yours faster
than
> mine. Who cares because after all the hardware is the big factor.
So throw good practices to the wind, hmmm? All right.
> Maybe you are a experient MVP, as person you have a lot to learn. In the
> first place, respect.
I asked some pretty legitimate questions in my initial reply, none of which
you have answered yet, except "this is the way it works for me."
Happy Thanksgiving!
Re: Create html tableam 25.11.2004 21:22:29 von Bob Lehmann
Here's what I get from googling "select *". No wonder Maarten is so
knowledgeable.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=select+*&btnG=Google+Se arch
Bob Lehmann
"Aaron [SQL Server MVP]" wrote in message
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> > I'm very sorry. This is what aspFaq tells. Check Google and read the
> > opposite in many sites. Most of then advise SELECT * instead of Column
for
> > speed. DISTINCT instead of GROUP BY, pffff.
>
> Can you show some examples?
>
> > Bizar if you check the SQL code generated for a query by lets say
Access,
> or
> > Cristal Reports they both choose for DISTINCT?
>
> Catering to bad database design. You shouldn't NEED distinct, and you
> certainly shouldn't encourage it when you don't know it's necessary.
>
> > After all your and my code do the job. Maybe in some case yours faster
> than
> > mine. Who cares because after all the hardware is the big factor.
>
> So throw good practices to the wind, hmmm? All right.
>
> > Maybe you are a experient MVP, as person you have a lot to learn. In the
> > first place, respect.
>
> I asked some pretty legitimate questions in my initial reply, none of
which
> you have answered yet, except "this is the way it works for me."
>
> Happy Thanksgiving!
>
>
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 08:04:57 von maarten
>> Happy Thanksgiving!
Ooh Aaron is American. The people who think they are the most clever people
on earth. Yes even in there own country they are not able to keep towers up,
and then Iraq. Maybe your army and security services fall back on sites like
aspFaq and your attitude. Thats explain also why you think you are the best.
You are Aaron, surely you are, but you stay a poor American.
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 17:21:38 von Mark Schupp
I've seen a lot of nasty language on this group before but that takes the
cake.
Never before killfiled anyone but: "plonk".
-- Another poor american
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 17:39:29 von raydan
Even though I'm Canadian... "Plonk"
Besides, he blasted me too.
I also don't think that this is Maarten's first entry into this type of
post.
"Mark Schupp" wrote in message
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> I've seen a lot of nasty language on this group before but that takes the
> cake.
>
> Never before killfiled anyone but: "plonk".
>
> -- Another poor american
>
>
>
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 17:53:46 von rudi
It took a while for me to read all the posted replies. I believe as well
Maarten as Aaron offers justcoder1 a way to solve his problem. Maybe the
code of Maarten is not a school example, but she works and cause no problem
nor for ASP nor ADO.
Aaron was indeed a little hard in his reply to maarten, from who i believe
he offers his code in thought he did something to help another person in the
group (and not only in this group or reply). Aaron keeps acting like his
point of view is the only good one, so maarten hits hem back under the belt.
Indeed nasty talk but i presume maarten is a Dutchman, European. And
broadcast stations in Europe show no great impressions of American in the
world. I know this because i live in Belgium and i must admit: since Iraq,
the elections reports and some big scandals, my admiration for Americans is
lot lesser than lets say 2 year ago.
And with poor Amrican, maybe Maarten points to the fact that the US$ is only
fraction of the Euro today.
Rudi.
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 18:00:44 von reb01501
Maarten wrote:
>>> Happy Thanksgiving!
>
> Ooh Aaron is American. The people who think they are the most clever
> people on earth. Yes even in there own country they are not able to
> keep towers up, and then Iraq. Maybe your army and security services
> fall back on sites like aspFaq and your attitude. Thats explain also
> why you think you are the best. You are Aaron, surely you are, but
> you stay a poor American.
Congratulations. You've just destroyed your last remaining shred of
credibility, as well as any illusions anyone may have held concerning your
intelligence. Granted, you had neither remaining in any abundance after your
third post in this thread, but now ... all anyone has to do in the future to
refute one of your stupidities is to point the reader at this post, which
says it all. Two logical fallacies, insensitive cruelty (some of us had
friends or relatives who died in that act of terrorism) and blatant bigotry,
all in one paragraph. I hope you're proud of yourself.
Amazing.
Unless, this is a brilliant piece of satire and you are just having us all
on ... no, the "towers" comment negates that thought.
Goodbye
plonk
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Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 18:01:47 von maarten
No Rudi, i'm also from Belgium (Wvl). And with poor i mean on human level.
Maarten.
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 18:06:00 von reb01501
Rudi wrote:
> It took a while for me to read all the posted replies. I believe as
> well Maarten as Aaron offers justcoder1 a way to solve his problem.
> Maybe the code of Maarten is not a school example, but she works and
> cause no problem nor for ASP nor ADO.
>
> Aaron was indeed a little hard in his reply to maarten, from who i
> believe he offers his code in thought he did something to help
> another person in the group (and not only in this group or reply).
> Aaron keeps acting like his point of view is the only good one, so
> maarten hits hem back under the belt. Indeed nasty talk but i presume
> maarten is a Dutchman, European. And broadcast stations in Europe
> show no great impressions of American in the world. I know this
> because i live in Belgium and i must admit: since Iraq, the elections
> reports and some big scandals, my admiration for Americans is lot
> lesser than lets say 2 year ago.
> And with poor Amrican, maybe Maarten points to the fact that the US$
> is only fraction of the Euro today.
> Rudi.
plonk
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Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 18:06:42 von maarten
Reply of Raydan to the original poster:
>>You didn't like the answer you got in the SQL server newsgroup?
>>SQL is not the tool for this. Do this client side.
>>What's so hard in returning the recordset ordered by id and name and
>>building the logic in code?
Is this an answer or this pure criticism? For many people even returning
such a rs is HARD to do.
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 18:14:58 von rudi
Thx Bob, if for you ever European is a 'plonk' (what it means - can find it
in a dictionary), it only demonstrates what maarten try to explain. Rudi.
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 18:19:23 von maarten
Rudi, van waar ben je, ik zie dat je op dezelfde telenet hub 81.165.239.61
zit als ikzelf?
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 18:45:40 von rudi
kortrijk
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 20:52:01 von Mark Schupp
Rudi,
"plonk" means you have been added to someones "ignore this poster forever"
file.
Maarten didn't get plonked for disagreeing with Aaron, or even with the
initial nastiness which was, however rude, in the context of the technical
discussion.
He got "plonked" dragging Aaron's nationality into it in an offensive
manner.
You got "plonked" for the same reason. It was lesson offensive that Maarten
but what has the value of the Euro got to do with the best way to create an
HTML table.
--Mark Schupp
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 21:04:57 von ten.xoc
> Thx Bob, if for you ever European is a 'plonk' (what it means - can find
it
> in a dictionary), it only demonstrates what maarten try to explain. Rudi.
There are two different definitions.
(a) "Person with Little Or No Knowledge."
(b) the sound of a person hitting a killfile.
You could have found this easily searching an acronym dictionary.
And by the way, I'm not American. I'll leave it as an exercise to the
reader to determine which definition(s) apply to rudi and maarten.
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 21:26:07 von ten.xoc
Wow, you said it much better than I did. My initial reply didn't even make
it past the "naughty words" filter. :-)
"Bob Barrows [MVP]" wrote in message
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> Maarten wrote:
> >>> Happy Thanksgiving!
> >
> > Ooh Aaron is American. The people who think they are the most clever
> > people on earth. Yes even in there own country they are not able to
> > keep towers up, and then Iraq. Maybe your army and security services
> > fall back on sites like aspFaq and your attitude. Thats explain also
> > why you think you are the best. You are Aaron, surely you are, but
> > you stay a poor American.
>
> Congratulations. You've just destroyed your last remaining shred of
> credibility, as well as any illusions anyone may have held concerning your
> intelligence. Granted, you had neither remaining in any abundance after
your
> third post in this thread, but now ... all anyone has to do in the future
to
> refute one of your stupidities is to point the reader at this post, which
> says it all. Two logical fallacies, insensitive cruelty (some of us had
> friends or relatives who died in that act of terrorism) and blatant
bigotry,
> all in one paragraph. I hope you're proud of yourself.
>
> Amazing.
>
> Unless, this is a brilliant piece of satire and you are just having us all
> on ... no, the "towers" comment negates that thought.
>
> Goodbye
>
> plonk
> --
> Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
> Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so I
> don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove the
> "NO SPAM"
>
>
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 21:32:59 von Philmans
I shame myself for living so close to Maarten.
Some things cannot be said all cause a disagreement with another 'helper'.
And all cold hearted thoughts he said makes him a little fool, who indicated
he has no knowledge of the world
we're all living in.
Now at this point allready i think i better skip all postings because of
Maarten thoughts, whether his postings
are correct solutions or not.
Phil
The Netherlands
"Bob Barrows [MVP]" schreef in bericht
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> Maarten wrote:
> >>> Happy Thanksgiving!
> >
> > Ooh Aaron is American. The people who think they are the most clever
> > people on earth. Yes even in there own country they are not able to
> > keep towers up, and then Iraq. Maybe your army and security services
> > fall back on sites like aspFaq and your attitude. Thats explain also
> > why you think you are the best. You are Aaron, surely you are, but
> > you stay a poor American.
>
> Congratulations. You've just destroyed your last remaining shred of
> credibility, as well as any illusions anyone may have held concerning your
> intelligence. Granted, you had neither remaining in any abundance after
your
> third post in this thread, but now ... all anyone has to do in the future
to
> refute one of your stupidities is to point the reader at this post, which
> says it all. Two logical fallacies, insensitive cruelty (some of us had
> friends or relatives who died in that act of terrorism) and blatant
bigotry,
> all in one paragraph. I hope you're proud of yourself.
>
> Amazing.
>
> Unless, this is a brilliant piece of satire and you are just having us all
> on ... no, the "towers" comment negates that thought.
>
> Goodbye
>
> plonk
> --
> Microsoft MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
> Please reply to the newsgroup. This email account is my spam trap so I
> don't check it very often. If you must reply off-line, then remove the
> "NO SPAM"
>
>
Re: Create html tableam 26.11.2004 21:46:52 von reb01501
Philmans wrote:
> I shame myself for living so close to Maarten.
Don't. Bigotry and stupidity are not dependant on geography. Some of my
fellow Americans have said things that were just as disgusting. And landed
as quickly in my killfile - along with those who attempted to justify their
behavior.
Bob Barrows
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Re: Create html tableam 27.11.2004 07:33:43 von jeff.nospam
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:04:57 GMT, "Maarten"
wrote:
>>> Happy Thanksgiving!
>
>Ooh Aaron is American. The people who think they are the most clever people
>on earth. Yes even in there own country they are not able to keep towers up,
>and then Iraq. Maybe your army and security services fall back on sites like
>aspFaq and your attitude. Thats explain also why you think you are the best.
>You are Aaron, surely you are, but you stay a poor American.
Sure, that'll win you points. On my end, it earned you a place in the
killfile...
Jeff
Re: Create html tableam 27.11.2004 12:34:03 von maarten
Yes Aaron, thats the only way an American can discuss. With naughty words
and the mighty word I I and I.
Re: Create html tableam 27.11.2004 12:40:57 von maarten
See what happens in your country if your Harry Potter (Prime Minister
Balkenende) rules like a American. No wonder there comes a lot of protest
against the terrorism.
Shaking hands, big smile, visiting veterans, one need more brains the rule a
nation. The American people, according to the reports on tv to which Rudi
points, over 60% of the Americans live in poverty, no social security and
for who they choose if there are election? They stay poor and it get worser
with the day (see the $, only 68% of the Euro).
Re: Create html tableam 27.11.2004 12:43:04 von maarten
Thanx Jeff, you just react like i wish you should do :-) No only poor ...,
also stupid enough to post.
Re: Create html tableam 01.12.2004 05:50:08 von ben h
Aaron [SQL Server MVP] wrote:
>>Thx Bob, if for you ever European is a 'plonk' (what it means - can find
>
> it
>
>>in a dictionary), it only demonstrates what maarten try to explain. Rudi.
>
>
> There are two different definitions.
>
> (a) "Person with Little Or No Knowledge."
>
> (b) the sound of a person hitting a killfile.
>
c) Cheap wine (in Oz it is anyway) :)
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