10 Mbps and 100 Mbps ISA cards

Dear all,

I have a 486 working as a router using linux RedHat 7.3. It has two
3Com ISA cards, a Etherlink Fast 100 Mbps (driver 3c515) and Etherlink
III 10 Mbps (driver 3c509).

The router is connected to a cable modem through the 10 Mbps ISA card
and the other one interfaces with a switch-hub to the LAN.

I am considering if due to the limits of the bandwidth of the ISA bus
if it really is worth to have a 100 Mbps to the LAN interface in the
486. If I use that 100 Mbps ISA i.e. in a Pentium III the performance
would be similar to a PCI NIC?

Apart from that I have two kernels, one the default kernel using
modules with RH 7.3 and a monolithic 2.4.22 compiled with the drivers.

I am having problems to configure the parameters in the monolithic
kernel for using the two NICs in the /etc/lilo.conf because the system
detects the 3c509 card, but not the 3c515. What is funny is that If I
boot using modules, it uses isapnp, I cant make them work either, but i=
f
I reboot to the monolithic kernel then It suddenly appears to detect th=
e
3c515. If I shutdown and boot again the monolithic kernel, says that no
3c515 card found...I=B4m stumped.

Anyway I dont know if the 3c515 is trying to use the wrong IRQ. When I
succeed to recognize the 3c515 card (using the trick of booting the
modular kernel first), it seems that IRQ 10 is fine, but uses the DMA 3
channel...Is this right? What I do it=B4s to set the IRQs and IO base
address in the /etc/lilo.conf file, but I am wondering if those setting=
s
are right. I downloaded the configuration tools but I only get the IO
base address and the IRQ in the 3c509 card and only the base address in
the 3c515 card. Any hints?

Many thanks in advance

Miguel
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Re: 10 Mbps and 100 Mbps ISA cards

Miguel Gonz=E1lez Casta=F1os wrote:
> I am having problems to configure the parameters in the monolithic
> kernel for using the two NICs in the /etc/lilo.conf because the syste=
m
> detects the 3c509 card, but not the 3c515. What is funny is that If I
> boot using modules, it uses isapnp, I cant make them work either, but=
if
> I reboot to the monolithic kernel then It suddenly appears to detect =
the
> 3c515. If I shutdown and boot again the monolithic kernel, says that =
no
> 3c515 card found...I=B4m stumped.

Hello,
I have the same problem in a 386SX with linux 2.4.20 with two Etherlink
III cards.
I send a mail to the maintainer of the card's driver and hi told me tha=
t=20
is a kernel problem, not the driver. Something with the bootup time... =
I=20
really not remember now.
Wen I Compile the kernel with the drivers has modules it works just=20
fine. But inside the kernel only works one card or none one.

Later happened again in a linux 2.4.22 on a PIII machine.
This time with a 3Com 3C905C Fast Etherlink card and one EEPRO100 i bel=
ieve.
Same problem. the 3Com driver doesn't work compiled in the kernel with=20
other card on the box. If the card is alone it works. but with other on=
e no.

Make modules && make modules_install was the solution for me.
If u find something more about this issue please let my know.

Best Regards!
Mat=EDas.

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Re: 10 Mbps and 100 Mbps ISA cards

Here is the help from make config:

"If your card is not working you may need to use the DOS=20
setup disk to disable Plug & Play mode, and to select the default=20
media type."

This is from the EtherLink III (3c509) support (kernel 2.4.20).=20

You should do that for your 509 card and use the kernel compiled with
support for that cards that you want to use.

I suppose that you did not forget about the "append ether=3D0,0,eth1"

The firs "0" is for autoIRQ and the second "0" is for specifying that a=
ll
I/O addresses are to be probed. It is better to let the kernel to
auto-probe (aka 0,0,eth1) for the card that you have. If you still have
problems, you should pass the correct parameters (addr, IRQ) to
the kernel directly.


I hope that this will help you.


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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Mat=EDas L=F3pez Bergero wrote:

> Miguel Gonz=E1lez Casta=F1os wrote:
> > I am having problems to configure the parameters in the monolithic
> > kernel for using the two NICs in the /etc/lilo.conf because the sys=
tem
> > detects the 3c509 card, but not the 3c515. What is funny is that If=
I
> > boot using modules, it uses isapnp, I cant make them work either, b=
ut if
> > I reboot to the monolithic kernel then It suddenly appears to detec=
t the
> > 3c515. If I shutdown and boot again the monolithic kernel, says tha=
t no
> > 3c515 card found...I=B4m stumped.
>=20
> Hello,
> I have the same problem in a 386SX with linux 2.4.20 with two Etherli=
nk
> III cards.
> I send a mail to the maintainer of the card's driver and hi told me t=
hat=20
> is a kernel problem, not the driver. Something with the bootup time..=
I=20
> really not remember now.
> Wen I Compile the kernel with the drivers has modules it works just=20
> fine. But inside the kernel only works one card or none one.
>=20
> Later happened again in a linux 2.4.22 on a PIII machine.
> This time with a 3Com 3C905C Fast Etherlink card and one EEPRO100 i b=
elieve.
> Same problem. the 3Com driver doesn't work compiled in the kernel wit=
h=20
> other card on the box. If the card is alone it works. but with other =
one no.
>=20
> Make modules && make modules_install was the solution for me.
> If u find something more about this issue please let my know.
>=20
> Best Regards!
> Mat=EDas.
>=20
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Re: 10 Mbps and 100 Mbps ISA cards

At 16:51 3-11-03 +0100, Miguel wrote:
>Dear all,
>
> I have a 486 working as a router using linux RedHat 7.3. It has two
>3Com ISA cards, a Etherlink Fast 100 Mbps (driver 3c515) and Etherlink
>III 10 Mbps (driver 3c509).
[snip]


> I am having problems to configure the parameters in the monolithic
>kernel for using the two NICs in the /etc/lilo.conf because the system
>detects the 3c509 card, but not the 3c515.
[snip]


About the 515 I'm not sure.

I've had a problem getting two 509 ISA cards working.

What i needed to do was set IO / IRQ and disable plug & play with the 3com
configuration tool, use a kernel with modules and set IO / IRQ in
/etc/modules.conf. This way i got both and duplex working.

More info can be found on
http://www.sambadance.com/3c509/3c509_v120.html


Greetz,
Cor Lem

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Re: 10 Mbps and 100 Mbps ISA cards

>
>
> More info can be found on
> http://www.sambadance.com/3c509/3c509_v120.html
>
> Greetz,
> Cor Lem

Many thanks but which 3Com configuration tool you are talking about? How can I

disable pnp ? I didnt compile the kernel with isapnp support and the mother
and in the bios I didnt see any pnp option (I will double check anyway...).

Miguel

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Re: 10 Mbps and 100 Mbps ISA cards

At 09:51 4-11-03 +0100, Miguel wrote:
> > More info can be found on
> > http://www.sambadance.com/3c509/3c509_v120.html
> >
> > Greetz,
> > Cor Lem
>
>Many thanks but which 3Com configuration tool you are talking about? How can I
>disable pnp ? I didnt compile the kernel with isapnp support and the mother
>and in the bios I didnt see any pnp option (I will double check anyway...).

You need 3C5X9CFG.EXE. Boot from a windooz / dos diskette and run it and
you can set io / irq and disable plug and play.

It can be found in
ftp://ftp.3com.com/pub/nic/3c509/3c509x2.exe

Link for this found on
http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/3c509/3c5096.1.ht m


Hope this helps

Greetz,
Cor Lem

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Re: 10 Mbps and 100 Mbps ISA cards

Sorry for getting back to this topic. I have been playing around and still I
cant figure out how to use achieve this.

I have downloaded the configuration tools but I cant make the tool for the
3c515 to work and detect the NIC...And about the 3c509 It says that the PNP is
disabled but still the .bat which is meant to disable pnp says that it doesnt
work!

Anyway If I succesfully disable pnp in both NICS should I still use isapnp
support in the kernel? The default kernel from RedHat enables it and does
work...

Any help will be apreciated.

Many thanks

Miguel

Cor ha escrito:

> At 16:51 3-11-03 +0100, Miguel wrote:
> >Dear all,
> >
> > I have a 486 working as a router using linux RedHat 7.3. It has two
> >3Com ISA cards, a Etherlink Fast 100 Mbps (driver 3c515) and Etherlink
> >III 10 Mbps (driver 3c509).
> [snip]
>
> > I am having problems to configure the parameters in the monolithic
> >kernel for using the two NICs in the /etc/lilo.conf because the system
> >detects the 3c509 card, but not the 3c515.
> [snip]
>
> About the 515 I'm not sure.
>
> I've had a problem getting two 509 ISA cards working.
>
> What i needed to do was set IO / IRQ and disable plug & play with the 3com
> configuration tool, use a kernel with modules and set IO / IRQ in
> /etc/modules.conf. This way i got both and duplex working.
>
> More info can be found on
> http://www.sambadance.com/3c509/3c509_v120.html
>
> Greetz,
> Cor Lem
>
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