Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 06.02.2005 02:06:24 von Alan Connor

On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming wrote:
>
>
> Hi!
>
> After some weeks with mixed outcomes and zero time to fix
> supposed configuration problems after upgrading spamd, finally
> fixed problems in SA (3.0.2) and it's working like a charm.
>


Until the spammers, who are the world's foremost experts in the
SA type of spamfilter, find a way to beat you again.

DUH.

Only weeks of messing it with it this time?



> This speaks for itself.;)
>
> Zero spam came through in the last few days, kudos to all people
> making SA (http://spamassassin.apache.org/) possible.
>

You neglected to mention how much time you had to spend looking
through that spam for legitimate mail that SA might have
classified wrongly.

If you have to look at the headers, then the spammers have won,
because it is a given that you will look more closely at some of
it and will probably go to one or more of the websites given in
the spam, and maybe even buy something.

AC


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Pass-list --> Spam-Filter --> Challenge-Response
http://tinyurl.com/2t5kp

FAQ: Canonical list of questions Beavis refuses to answer (V1.00) (was Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.

am 06.02.2005 02:48:38 von Sam

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This is a canonical list of questions that Beavis never answers. This FAQ is
posted on a semi-regular schedule, as circumstances warrant.

For more information on Beavis, see:

http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

Although Beavis has been posting for a long time, he always remains silent
on the subjects enumerated below. His response, if any, usually consists of
replying to the parent post with a loud proclamation that his Usenet-reading
software runs a magical filter that automatically identifies anyone who's
making fun of him, and hides those offensive posts. For more information
see question #9 below.

============================================================ ================

1) If spammers avoid forging real E-mail addresses on spam, then where do
all these bounces everyone reports getting (for spam with their return
address was forged onto) come from?

2) If your Challenge-Response filter is so great, why do you still munge
when posting to Usenet?

3) Do you still believe that rsh is the best solution for remote access?
(http://tinyurl.com/5qqb6)

4) What is your evidence that everyone who disagrees with you, and thinks
that you're a moron, is a spammer?

5) How many different individuals do you believe really post to
comp.mail.misc? What is the evidence for your paranoid belief that everyone,
except you, who posts here is some unknown arch-nemesis of yours?

6) How many times, or how often, do you believe is necessary to announce
that you do not read someone's posts? What is your reason for making these
regularly-scheduled proclamations? Who do you believe is so interested in
keeping track of your Usenet-reading habits?

7) When was the last time you saw Bigfoot (http://tinyurl.com/23r3f)?

8) If your C-R system employs a spam filter so that it won't challenge spam,
then why does any of the mail that passes the filter, and is thusly presumed
not to be spam, need to be challenged?

9) You claim that the software you use to read Usenet magically identifies
any post that makes fun of you. In http://tinyurl.com/3swes you explain
that "What I get in my newsreader is a mock post with fake headers and no
body, except for the first parts of the Subject and From headers."

Since your headers indicate that you use slrn and, as far as anyone knows,
the stock slrn doesn't work that way, is this interesting patch to slrn
available for download anywhere?



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Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 06.02.2005 22:35:12 von Alan Connor

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming wrote:



I don't read the posts of Sam the Troll, regardless of which
alias he/she/it is using at the moment, nor any responses to them
unto the nth generation.

He/she/its posts appear in my newsreader with the Subject XXXX
and the body stripped, as do the responses to them.

Don't feed the trolls!

Michael and Chris should not have to be told this.

Anyone using a common first name as their alias is probably
a troll. They do this to avoid being tracked through the
Usenet archives.

http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search

Please ignore any such posts: You are probably helping a troll be
a better troll.

If you using such an alias, then now you know why your posts
are ignored by a lot of the experienced Usenet hands.

Pick a unique name (check to see if it has been used at the
above URL) and stick with it.

Or take a hike.

AC

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Pass-list --> Spam-Filter --> Challenge-Response
http://tinyurl.com/2t5kp

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 06.02.2005 23:07:05 von Peter.Koehlmann

begin Alan Connor wrote:

> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming
>> wrote:
>
>
>

Oh, you think that

http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

does not describe you and your netkook behaviour?

If no, explain

< snip typical AC garbage >
--
Avoid reality at all costs.

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 00:23:53 von erasmus

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 +0000, Alan Connor wrote:

[yet more crap]

Hey, Beavis - answer the questions:



B.
--
A chicken in love is poultry emotion.

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 04:09:12 von TreeNet Admin

In article , Peter.Koehlmann@t-
online.de says...
> begin Alan Connor wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming
> >> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
>
> Oh, you think that
>
> http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml
>
> does not describe you and your netkook behaviour?
>
> If no, explain
>
> < snip typical AC garbage >
>

+---------------------+ .:\:/:.
| PLEASE DO NOT BAIT | .:\:\:/:/:.
| THE SPANKED^W | :.:\:\:/:/:.:
| SPAMMERS^W TROLLS | :=.' - - '.=:
| | '=(\ 9 9 /)='
| Thank you, | ( (_) )
| Management | /`-vvv-'\
+---------------------+ / \
| | @@@ / /|,,,,,|\ \
| | @@@ /_// /^\ \\_\
@x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
\||||/ | | \| __\,,\ /,,/__
\||/ | | | (______Y______)
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 17:52:48 von pv+usenet

xxxx@yyy.zzz writes:
>I don't read the posts of Sam the Troll, regardless of which
>alias he/she/it is using at the moment, nor any responses to them
>unto the nth generation.

It is a strange and very poorly-designed killfile that still tells you
someone is posting replies to your articles. Frankly, I think you're full
of shit. You read Sam's posts obsessively, in the vain hope that Sam will
invite you to the prom.

>He/she/its posts appear in my newsreader with the Subject XXXX
>and the body stripped, as do the responses to them.

If your newsreader is so lame that it doesn't understand PGP-signed
messages, then you need to get a new one.

>Don't feed the trolls!

Crap! I'm guilty again.

>Anyone using a common first name as their alias is probably
>a troll. They do this to avoid being tracked through the
>Usenet archives.

Goddess forbid that someone would want to be referred to by ... their real
first name. People trying to remain anonymous don't PGP sign their
messages, dumbass. *
--
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like corkscrews.
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Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 19:00:32 von NetworkElf

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:52:48 -0000, Paul Vader wrote:
> xxxx@yyy.zzz writes:

When you quote him, please be sure to include his name. People new to these groups may not
know who he is. Having his name makes it a bit easier to search for FAQs on Xena and
Bigfoot.

No, I am not Sam, but I would like to be when I grow up.

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Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 20:18:20 von Alan Connor

On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:35:12 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming wrote:
>

"Paul Vader". My newsfilter tells me that your post has a troll
score of 85.

Post ignored and you are killfiled.

Same for a couple of other aliases that responded here.

I love threads like this: Gives me a chance to clean the
scum out of my downloads.

Have a life.

Someplace else.

AC

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 20:28:18 von NetworkElf

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 19:18:20 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:35:12 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming wrote:
>>
>
> "Paul Vader". My newsfilter tells me that your post has a troll
> score of 85.
>
> Post ignored and you are killfiled.
>
> Same for a couple of other aliases that responded here.
>
> I love threads like this: Gives me a chance to clean the
> scum out of my downloads.
>
> Have a life.
>
> Someplace else.
>
> AC

I did not read this poast.

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criminal-minded maniac behind Spews since 2003.

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 20:33:03 von pv+usenet

jd@something.com writes:
>On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:52:48 -0000, Paul Vader wrote:
>> xxxx@yyy.zzz writes:

Rats!

>When you quote him, please be sure to include his name. People new to

I usually do that, just because I imagine it makes Alan Connor's blood boil
a few more degrees, but I forgot this time, because I cracked myself up
after writing one of the paragraphs. Sorry about that! *
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Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 21:31:27 von pv+usenet

xxxx@yyy.zzz (Alan "stop hitting me!" Connor) writes:
>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming
> wrote:
>>
>
>"Paul Vader". My newsfilter tells me that your post has a troll
>score of 85.

Yeah, and my bozoputer says you're ugly and your mom dresses you funny. So?

>Post ignored and you are killfiled.

So, Michael gets killfiled because he responded to someone (me) that you've
killfiled? Riiight. *

P.S. I did not read this post, as I use Alan's killfile, and I have a troll
score of 85.
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Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 07.02.2005 22:24:03 von NetworkElf

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 20:31:27 -0000, Paul Vader wrote:
> xxxx@yyy.zzz (Alan "stop hitting me!" Connor) writes:
>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming
>> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>"Paul Vader". My newsfilter tells me that your post has a troll
>>score of 85.
>
> Yeah, and my bozoputer says you're ugly and your mom dresses you funny. So?
>
>>Post ignored and you are killfiled.
>
> So, Michael gets killfiled because he responded to someone (me) that you've
> killfiled? Riiight. *
>
> P.S. I did not read this post, as I use Alan's killfile, and I have a troll
> score of 85.

My magic 8 balls say you are a troll and that I didn't read this poast. As a
crosscheck, I talked with Xena and Bigfoot. They both agree. :)

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Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 08.02.2005 01:03:40 von Sam

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Beavis writes:

> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:35:12 GMT, Beavis wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Beavis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming eiming.de> wrote:
>>
>
> "Paul Vader". My newsfilter tells me that your post has a troll
> score of 85.

Beavis: is your amazing â€=9Cnewsfilterâ€=9D available for download,=
somewhere? Or
are you hoarding your amazing pseudo-telepathic newsfilter, which never
fails to identify posts that make fun of you, all to yourself?

Greedy, selfish pigâ€=A6



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Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 08.02.2005 15:27:43 von sasctw

In article <0aPNd.2573$mG6.391@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Alan Connor wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:35:12 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming wrote:
>>
>
>"Paul Vader". My newsfilter tells me that your post has a troll
>score of 85.
>
>Post ignored and you are killfiled.
>
>Same for a couple of other aliases that responded here.
>
>I love threads like this: Gives me a chance to clean the
>scum out of my downloads.
>
>Have a life.
>
>Someplace else.
>
>AC
>

:-) When I killfile something, it's to ignore it, not obsess over it.

Oh yeah, *I'm Sam*, too ;-) Or is it, Sam is me? sigh...just can't
keep up anymore.

--
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SAS Institute Inc. | reinvent it, poorly.
sasctw@unx.sas.com | -- Henry Spencer
Opinions are mine, not of SAS Institute Inc.

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 08.02.2005 19:38:43 von NetworkElf

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:27:43 +0000 (UTC), Tom Wilson wrote:
> In article <0aPNd.2573$mG6.391@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> Alan Connor wrote:
>>On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:35:12 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:

Like a dimwitted screed monkey...

>
>:-) When I killfile something, it's to ignore it, not obsess over it.
>
> Oh yeah, *I'm Sam*, too ;-) Or is it, Sam is me? sigh...just can't
> keep up anymore.
>

No, no, NO!!! You are not Sam today. I am. You're Sam tomorrow. This is
what happens when you miss staff meetings.

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Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 08.02.2005 22:38:10 von David Magda

NetworkElf writes:

> No, no, NO!!! You are not Sam today. I am. You're Sam
> tomorrow. This is what happens when you miss staff meetings.

Except on leap years.

--
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Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 09.02.2005 18:22:15 von sasctw

In article <110i1pjmql6d83a@corp.supernews.com>,
NetworkElf wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 14:27:43 +0000 (UTC), Tom Wilson wrote:
>> In article <0aPNd.2573$mG6.391@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
>> Alan Connor wrote:
>>>On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:35:12 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>
>Like a dimwitted screed monkey...
>
>>
>>:-) When I killfile something, it's to ignore it, not obsess over it.
>>
>> Oh yeah, *I'm Sam*, too ;-) Or is it, Sam is me? sigh...just can't
>> keep up anymore.
>>
>
>No, no, NO!!! You are not Sam today. I am. You're Sam tomorrow. This is
>what happens when you miss staff meetings.

Aw, rats! I gotta quit using that sidereal calendar!

--
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SAS Institute Inc. | reinvent it, poorly.
sasctw@unx.sas.com | -- Henry Spencer
Opinions are mine, not of SAS Institute Inc.

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 09.02.2005 19:29:12 von Skua

Alan, my ass is sore, Connor wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 21:35:12 GMT, Alan Connor wrote:
>
>
> "Paul Vader". My newsfilter tells me that your post has a troll
> score of 85.
>
> Post ignored and you are killfiled.
>
> Same for a couple of other aliases that responded here.
>
> I love threads like this: Gives me a chance to clean the
> scum out of my downloads.

Is that what you call it, getting raped by Bigfoot, "Cleaning the scum
out of my downloads"?



Skua

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(1863 - 1941)

Re: SpamAssassin (3.0.2) unbreakable?

am 17.02.2005 21:55:57 von Mike Mol

Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> begin Alan Connor wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 01:06:24 GMT, Alan Connor
wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:36:51 +0100, Michael Heiming
> >> wrote:
>
> http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

D*mn, that explains a lot. Thanks. :)

http://angel.1jh.com./nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

am 04.04.2005 13:40:23 von Jonathan de Boyne Pollard

PV> Goddess forbid that someone would want to be referred to by ...
their real first name.

Bruce^W Farley^W Tom^W David^W Alexander^W Alan might not understand
that idea.

PV> People trying to remain anonymous don't PGP sign
PV> their messages, dumbass.

Was this the one that cracked you up?