Re: ADSL and mail

At 01:31 PM 3/2/2005 -0700, frans toruan wrote:
>Hi, Ray . . .
>
>As you suggested the last time, I succeeded in connecting my machine to
>the net, just by deleting the name of my LAN nameserver from the DNS
>search list.
>Now, I can already browse the net and send/receive mail, using Ximian
>Evolution ( included in RHL 9 ).
>My new problem is when I tried to send mail via Pine 4.4.( through the
>x-terminal ). In configuration, I use the name of my ISP in the
>user-domain column, and the name of my SMTP server in the smtp-server
>name.
>I succeeded to send a mail into my other address ( within the LAN ), and
>retrieved it under Windowz ( dual booting, in the same machine ).
>But, when I send to another address outside of the LAN, I failed.
>What could have happened?
>Below, I attached the data.
[data deleted here]

I read the traffic on linux-newbie pretty regularly, Frans, so there's
really no need to send me a personal copy of a message you're posting to
the list.

As to your actual problem, I'm not able to give you specific advice ... the
last time I used pine was back around 1998. But what you're running into
may not be a pine problem as such.

If I follow you, your workstation uses an on-LAN SMTP server to send mail.
Using it, you were able to send mail successful to another on-LAN address,
but not to a couple of addresses off-LAN. In using these terms, you mean, I
suspect, that the successful address can be reached for delivery without
going to any off-LAN SMTP server (your ISP's forwarder, for example, or the
SMTP server identified by the MX record for the destination FQDN) ... that
is, the on-LAN SMTP server recognizes your "other address (within the LAN)"
as one it can deliver to locally.

This causes me to suspect that your on-LAN SMTP server is not properly
configured to send mail off-LAN. I don't know enough about your site (or
anything about the SMTP server itself) to know what exactly is wrong, but
there are many possibilities. If the SMTP server uses direct delivery, your
ISP may block outgoing port-25 traffic to force its customers to use their
forwarder. If you are using their forwarder, there could be a problem with
its requiring POP-before-SMTP authentication, or you might be running into
some sort of anti-relaying measure.

Since you dual-boot into Windows, what SMTP server is your Windows MUA set
to use? If the on-LAN SMTP server works fine with a WIndows MUA but not
with a Linux UA, then of course my guessing here is off target ... but in
that case you'll need help from someone who has more revent experience with
pine than I have.


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ADSL and mail

Hi, Ray . . .

As you suggested the last time, I succeeded in connecting my machine to
the net, just by deleting the name of my LAN nameserver from the DNS
search list.
Now, I can already browse the net and send/receive mail, using Ximian
Evolution ( included in RHL 9 ).
My new problem is when I tried to send mail via Pine 4.4.( through the
x-terminal ). In configuration, I use the name of my ISP in the
user-domain column, and the name of my SMTP server in the smtp-server
name.
I succeeded to send a mail into my other address ( within the LAN ), and
retrieved it under Windowz ( dual booting, in the same machine ).
But, when I send to another address outside of the LAN, I failed.
What could have happened?
Below, I attached the data.

Yours,


frans t.

/home/frans/mail/sent-mail :

>From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 2 10:35:23 2005
Date: 02 Mar 2005 10:35:23 -0700
From: Mail System Internal Data
Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Message-ID: <1109784923@acbi.co.id>
X-IMAP: 1109781309 0000000001
Status: RO

This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not
a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system
software.
If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be
re-created
with the data reset to initial values.

>From fr4ns@telkom.net.id Wed Mar 2 09:44:18 2005 -0700
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:43:56 -0700 (GMT+7)
From: frans toruan
X-X-Sender: fr4ns@localhost.localdomain
To: hr_ga.dept@acbi.co.id
Message-ID:

MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 1

mail composing test using pine as mua, sendmail as mta, under linux rhl
9 on 3.2.2005.


/home/frans/mail/postponed-msgs :
>From MAILER-DAEMON Wed Mar 2 11:54:42 2005
Date: 02 Mar 2005 11:54:42 -0700
From: Mail System Internal Data
Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA
Message-ID: <1109789682@telkom.net.id>
X-IMAP: 1109786068 0000000003
Status: RO

This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not
a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system
software.
If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be
re-created
with the data reset to initial values.

>From fr4ns@telkom.net.id Wed Mar 2 10:54:28 2005 -0700
Newsgroups:
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:54:28 -0700 (GMT+7)
From: frans toruan
X-X-Sender: fr4ns@localhost.localdomain
To: "Hendro D.T."
Subject: pine 4.4 ( klik reply aje kalo masuk )
Fcc: sent-mail
Message-ID:

X-Cursor-Pos: To 0
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 1

ini ngirim mail pakai dos prompt.
mua nya pine 4.4, mta nya sendmail, os nya linux rhl 9.0.

abis reply langsung delete aje.
thanks berat,



frans toruan


>From fr4ns@telkom.net.id Wed Mar 2 11:52:35 2005 -0700
Newsgroups:
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:52:35 -0700 (GMT+7)
From: frans toruan
X-X-Sender: fr4ns@localhost.localdomain
To: iwan
cc: GA dept ,
"Hendro D.T."
Subject: pakai pine 4.4.
Fcc: sent-mail
Message-ID:

X-Cursor-Pos: cc 11
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED;
BOUNDARY="8323328-767050540-1109789457=:4762"
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 3

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nyoba lagi



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