Half-baked anti-spam schemes

Every now and then there is a flurry of half-baked anti-spam schemes
that the originators think are The Ultimate Anti-Spam Solution Once
And For All.

Some time ago, somebody grew weary of responding individually to the
flaws in such schemes and developed a form that could be used,
something like:

Your scheme won't work because:
[ ] it is illegal
[ ] ISPs will never accept it
[ ] users will never accept it
[ ] it requires replacement of every mail client everywhere

etc.

Does anybody who remembers that have a URI to the form?

Re: Half-baked anti-spam schemes

On 12 Mar 2005 14:07:21 -0800, Bruce Lilly
wrote:

> Every now and then there is a flurry of half-baked anti-spam
> schemes that the originators think are The Ultimate Anti-Spam
> Solution Once And For All.
>
> Some time ago, somebody grew weary of responding individually
> to the flaws in such schemes and developed a form that could be
> used, something like:
>
> Your scheme won't work because:
> [ ] it is illegal
> [ ] ISPs will never accept it
> [ ] users will never accept it
> [ ] it requires replacement of every mail client everywhere
>
> etc.
>
> Does anybody who remembers that have a URI to the form?
>

The 'Ultimate Anti-Spam Solution Once And For All' has been
around for years.

It's called a "Challenge-Response System" and it works perfectly.

Even Earthlink, one of the major ISPs, offers one as a part of
their standard spam-fighting package.

People don't use them because they don't _want_ to eliminate spam
(despite what they _say_).

They want systems that will eliminate _certain_kinds_ of spam,
which is about as realistic as wanting an umbrella that will
only stop certain kinds of rain.

You, for instance, are obviously invested in the idea that
stopping spam is impossible.

You are quite wrong.

AC

--
Pro-Active Spam Fighter
Pass-list --> Spam-Filter --> Challenge-Response
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Re: Half-baked anti-spam schemes

In article <1110665241.369714.279320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Bruce
Lilly says...

> Every now and then there is a flurry of half-baked anti-spam schemes
> that the originators think are The Ultimate Anti-Spam Solution Once
> And For All.

> Some time ago, somebody grew weary of responding individually to the
> flaws in such schemes and developed a form that could be used,
> something like:

> Your scheme won't work because:
> [ ] it is illegal
> [ ] ISPs will never accept it
> [ ] users will never accept it
> [ ] it requires replacement of every mail client everywhere

> Does anybody who remembers that have a URI to the form?

Google? "Final ultimate spam"?

http://www.google.com/search?q=final+ultimate+spam

And as for AC's response, Google again; "alan connor kook":

http://www.google.com/search?q=alan+connor+kook

I believe that is why people are prone to say, "Google is your friend".

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

Re: Half-baked anti-spam schemes

NormanM wrote:
> In article <1110665241.369714.279320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Bruce
> Lilly says...
>
> > Every now and then there is a flurry of half-baked anti-spam
schemes
> > that the originators think are The Ultimate Anti-Spam Solution Once
> > And For All.
>
> > Some time ago, somebody grew weary of responding individually to
the
> > flaws in such schemes and developed a form that could be used,
> > something like:
>
> > Your scheme won't work because:
> > [ ] it is illegal
> > [ ] ISPs will never accept it
> > [ ] users will never accept it
> > [ ] it requires replacement of every mail client everywhere
>
> > Does anybody who remembers that have a URI to the form?
>
> Google? "Final ultimate spam"?
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=final+ultimate+spam

No, but buried among the 188,000 results was an item that led to
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=98024&cid=8373855

Still looking for the definitive source...

Alan Connor, usenet Beavis.

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NormanM writes:

> Google? "Final ultimate spam"?
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=final+ultimate+spam
>
> And as for AC's response, Google again; "alan connor kook":
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=alan+connor+kook

Better yet: go to http://groups.google.com/ and search for "usenet beavis".

> I believe that is why people are prone to say, "Google is your friend".

Google is great.


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Re: Half-baked anti-spam schemes

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, Alan Connor wrote:
> ...
> The 'Ultimate Anti-Spam Solution Once And For All' has been
> around for years.
>
> It's called a "Challenge-Response System" and it works perfectly.

Of course it works "perfectly." By eliminating 100% of all incoming e-mail, it
guarentees to eliminate 100% of one's spam too! :-)