Re: Perl

www.google.com/linux

and then a search for perl... or books! did you know they have books with
just this sort of thing in them! save your eyes, read a book my friend.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Scott@Charter wrote:

> Can anyone please help me with a short example Perl script that will print
> out all the odd numbers between 1 and 10? I don't know Perl and am trying
> to learn it. I wrote a bash script to do the same thing and wanted to
> compare it.
>
> There must be a Perl expert out there somewhere who can help me?
>
> Thanks-
> Scott
>
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There must be a Perl expert out there somewhere who can help me?

Thanks-
Scott

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Re: Perl

Then why do these groups exist? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am
in a rush? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am unemployed, looking
for a job, and can't afford a book? Did you ever stop and think that there
are kind, intelligent people out there who are willing and happy to just
answer questions politely that are asked politely? I guess we can't all
have your flare for life!

Go spread your cheer in the grumpy user group. (and I'm being nice) There
are nice people out there who are willing to help me out. Some people just
want/need a little help with certain things. Why did you become a member of
this group?

Besides, I have a useless Perl book.


----- Original Message -----
From: "tyler"
To: "Scott@Charter"
Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group"
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Perl


>
> www.google.com/linux
>
> and then a search for perl... or books! did you know they have books with
> just this sort of thing in them! save your eyes, read a book my friend.
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Scott@Charter wrote:
>
> > Can anyone please help me with a short example Perl script that will
print
> > out all the odd numbers between 1 and 10? I don't know Perl and am
trying
> > to learn it. I wrote a bash script to do the same thing and wanted to
> > compare it.
> >
> > There must be a Perl expert out there somewhere who can help me?
> >
> > Thanks-
> > Scott
> >

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Re: Perl

Scott,

The issue is that you have sent about a dozen messages, which show little
effort on your part to try and figure out these basic problems. Quite
frankly, if you are unable to do these, which you say is a screening
portion of an interview, that how do you expect to show any compentance
within the realm if you get past that part. For a large part (and I don't
speak for the entire list) everyone is willing to pitch in, if we can see
that a reasonable effort has been shown, or if someone has a non-trivial
problem. I still stand by what I said earlier, you are trying to get us to
do your work for you. The web has a wealth of introductory material for
all sorts of stuff. Get your feet wet. If you can't afford a book, go to
the library, or search the web for reference material.

This list is an admin list, not a learn to program bash or perl group. It
isn't that we don't want to help. But help yourself first. You won't get a
job if you don't know basic fundamentals.

That said, for printing odd numbers 1-10. you can do it either of a few
ways. One is simply to start at one and increment by 2 which will give you
odd numbers all the way. Or if you want to be different, increment by one,
and use % operator to find numbers that aren't divisible by 2.

#!/usr/bin/perl
for ($i=1; $i < 10 ; $i++)
{
if ($i%2 !=0)
{
print "$i\n";
}
}

for ($i=1 ; $i < 10 ; $i+=2)
{
print "$i\n";
}

Good luck on the job hunt.


On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:54:22 -0800, Scott@Charter
wrote:

> Then why do these groups exist? Did you ever stop and think that maybe
> I am
> in a rush? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am unemployed,
> looking
> for a job, and can't afford a book? Did you ever stop and think that
> there
> are kind, intelligent people out there who are willing and happy to just
> answer questions politely that are asked politely? I guess we can't all
> have your flare for life!
>
> Go spread your cheer in the grumpy user group. (and I'm being nice)
> There
> are nice people out there who are willing to help me out. Some people
> just
> want/need a little help with certain things. Why did you become a
> member of
> this group?
>
> Besides, I have a useless Perl book.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tyler"
> To: "Scott@Charter"
> Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group"
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Perl
>
>
>>
>> www.google.com/linux
>>
>> and then a search for perl... or books! did you know they have books
>> with
>> just this sort of thing in them! save your eyes, read a book my friend.
>>
>> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Scott@Charter wrote:
>>
>> > Can anyone please help me with a short example Perl script that will
> print
>> > out all the odd numbers between 1 and 10? I don't know Perl and am
> trying
>> > to learn it. I wrote a bash script to do the same thing and wanted to
>> > compare it.
>> >
>> > There must be a Perl expert out there somewhere who can help me?
>> >
>> > Thanks-
>> > Scott
>> >
>
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Re: Perl

Dude,

Relax. To get good info out of lists come prepared with good questions.
Especially be prepared for "RTFM".

This list is sparse. But, the best lists I belong to will give you the
same "grumpy"
response if your questions are posted like this one.

Don't mean to be cheerless.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Scott@Charter wrote:

> Then why do these groups exist? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am
> in a rush? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am unemployed, looking
> for a job, and can't afford a book? Did you ever stop and think that there
> are kind, intelligent people out there who are willing and happy to just
> answer questions politely that are asked politely? I guess we can't all
> have your flare for life!
>
> Go spread your cheer in the grumpy user group. (and I'm being nice) There
> are nice people out there who are willing to help me out. Some people just
> want/need a little help with certain things. Why did you become a member of
> this group?
>
> Besides, I have a useless Perl book.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tyler"
> To: "Scott@Charter"
> Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group"
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Perl
>
>
> >
> > www.google.com/linux
> >
> > and then a search for perl... or books! did you know they have books with
> > just this sort of thing in them! save your eyes, read a book my friend.
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Scott@Charter wrote:
> >
> > > Can anyone please help me with a short example Perl script that will
> print
> > > out all the odd numbers between 1 and 10? I don't know Perl and am
> trying
> > > to learn it. I wrote a bash script to do the same thing and wanted to
> > > compare it.
> > >
> > > There must be a Perl expert out there somewhere who can help me?
> > >
> > > Thanks-
> > > Scott
> > >
>
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Re: Perl

Email lists do not exist to do all the work for you. You tend to get the
best results in situations where it is "I am trying to do such and such and
such. This is the config I am using and this is the error I am getting. I
searched google for an answer, but the solution I found didn't help. any
ideas?"

People are not here to do the work. They are here to offer advice and a
push in the right to direction to help get past sticking points.

As for saying "you're in a rush", that is probably the WORST thing you can
say on these lists. Just about everyone on here is at work and doing their
own job. It is rude and tacky to assume your problems are so important that
you can't do initial research yourself, but we can take time out of our day
to help you because you are lazy.

As for the "afford a book excuse", it has no bearing. When it comes to
programming, there is SO much documentation and examples online, that the
only reason to buy a book is to have an ordered hard copy reference
material.

Just keep in mind that the "intelligent and friendly people" that are on
lists, are typically at work and very busy themselves. No one is obligated
to answer your questions and you will see the well run dry if you continue
to expect others to do your work.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott@Charter"
To: "tyler"
Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group"
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: Perl


> Then why do these groups exist? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I
am
> in a rush? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am unemployed,
looking
> for a job, and can't afford a book? Did you ever stop and think that
there
> are kind, intelligent people out there who are willing and happy to just
> answer questions politely that are asked politely? I guess we can't all
> have your flare for life!
>
> Go spread your cheer in the grumpy user group. (and I'm being nice) There
> are nice people out there who are willing to help me out. Some people
just
> want/need a little help with certain things. Why did you become a member
of
> this group?
>
> Besides, I have a useless Perl book.

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Re: Perl

You would be better off in IRC for quick questions. These mailing lists
go to a lot of people, so lots of small beginner questions that aren't
exactly on topic (this isn't a PERL list) will just annoy people. In IRC
you will likely get a faster response, and thousands of people will be
spared the 20+ emails that have been generated from your discussion so far.

I would recommend EFNet or Freenode, as I've found lots of helpful folks
on those networks.

~Brad

Scott@Charter wrote:
> Then why do these groups exist? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am
> in a rush? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am unemployed, looking
> for a job, and can't afford a book? Did you ever stop and think that there
> are kind, intelligent people out there who are willing and happy to just
> answer questions politely that are asked politely? I guess we can't all
> have your flare for life!
>
> Go spread your cheer in the grumpy user group. (and I'm being nice) There
> are nice people out there who are willing to help me out. Some people just
> want/need a little help with certain things. Why did you become a member of
> this group?
>
> Besides, I have a useless Perl book.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tyler"
> To: "Scott@Charter"
> Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group"
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Perl
>
>
>
>>www.google.com/linux
>>
>>and then a search for perl... or books! did you know they have books with
>>just this sort of thing in them! save your eyes, read a book my friend.
>>
>>On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Scott@Charter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Can anyone please help me with a short example Perl script that will
>
> print
>
>>>out all the odd numbers between 1 and 10? I don't know Perl and am
>
> trying
>
>>>to learn it. I wrote a bash script to do the same thing and wanted to
>>>compare it.
>>>
>>>There must be a Perl expert out there somewhere who can help me?
>>>
>>>Thanks-
>>>Scott
>>>
>
>
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Re: Perl

Hi Scott :(

Seems you misundertand what these lists are for. These lists are for people
to help people who are helping theirselves, and for people who are helping
themselves receive help from people who want to help people helping
themselves.

There are two things you are going to see when you post something like the
thread you just did, and to varying degrees:

1.) RTFM

2.) STFW

You've already received suggestions like that so I won't bother engaging in
a redundant act.

Now, If you're looking for a job as a Perl programmer and the book you have
isn't doing it for you (and you don't have the money to buy another one),
you prolly shouldn't be looking for a job programming in Perl.

Also, Oreilly has books online for you, some they charge for but the perl
book is free if you look for it. You can even print a hard copy if you have
enough paper.

Next time, instead of asking someone to "Do it for you", why don't you try
posting your broken code here (or on a list that is more on topic), pointing
out to the rest of us where you think the program is bombing?

You should also prolly d/l OpenPerlIDE at sourceforge, if you're running a
wynd0z3 workstation, it's got a lot of help.

Finally, since you site a lack of money, there are lots of self help
tutorials out there for Perl as well - but if you still want someone to "Do
it for you", instead of "Help you", then I'm your man. Simply lemme know
your fax number and I'll shoot you on over my Technical Services Agreement,
then you sign and fax back. Then I'll write the application for you :)
There's a one hour minimum, of course, so you will be billed for one hour at
$85.00/hr.



"Scott@Charter" wrote in message
news:017601c417b6$2a379930$020aa8c0@Scott...
> Then why do these groups exist? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I
am
> in a rush? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am unemployed,
looking
> for a job, and can't afford a book? Did you ever stop and think that
there
> are kind, intelligent people out there who are willing and happy to just
> answer questions politely that are asked politely? I guess we can't all
> have your flare for life!
>
> Go spread your cheer in the grumpy user group. (and I'm being nice) There
> are nice people out there who are willing to help me out. Some people
just
> want/need a little help with certain things. Why did you become a member
of
> this group?
>
> Besides, I have a useless Perl book.
>



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Re: Perl

Well it seems that our friend (NOT), scott.smallsreed@charter.net is a
certifiable bonehead. I just received a response from him with some pretty
colorful language - dayglow, I would say ;)

Scott, I'm not going to dignify your filthy comments by responding to that
email, but your original post, which was is only five days old, certainly
doesn't show the level of your animosity that you shared with me privately.

If that O'Reilly book is too much for you then perhaps this isn't the thing
for you after all. It's an RTFM world out there, and you'll only last one or
two days on the job anyway if you can't swim in that pond.

Since you feel such anger against everyone on these lists, then perhaps it
is best if you just stick to your job as a plumber ;)

One more thing - if you didn't care, then why did you send such a long
private flame? ;)

TTFN.


"Bradley D. Thornton" wrote in message
news:c4qgbf$7l1$1@sea.gmane.org...
> Hi Scott :(
>
> Seems you misundertand what these lists are for. These lists are for
people
> to help people who are helping theirselves, and for people who are helping
> themselves receive help from people who want to help people helping
> themselves.
>
> There are two things you are going to see when you post something like the
> thread you just did, and to varying degrees:
>
> 1.) RTFM
>
> 2.) STFW
>
> You've already received suggestions like that so I won't bother engaging
in
> a redundant act.
>
> Now, If you're looking for a job as a Perl programmer and the book you
have
> isn't doing it for you (and you don't have the money to buy another one),
> you prolly shouldn't be looking for a job programming in Perl.
>
> Also, Oreilly has books online for you, some they charge for but the perl
> book is free if you look for it. You can even print a hard copy if you
have
> enough paper.
>
> Next time, instead of asking someone to "Do it for you", why don't you try
> posting your broken code here (or on a list that is more on topic),
pointing
> out to the rest of us where you think the program is bombing?
>
> You should also prolly d/l OpenPerlIDE at sourceforge, if you're running a
> wynd0z3 workstation, it's got a lot of help.
>
> Finally, since you site a lack of money, there are lots of self help
> tutorials out there for Perl as well - but if you still want someone to
"Do
> it for you", instead of "Help you", then I'm your man. Simply lemme know
> your fax number and I'll shoot you on over my Technical Services
Agreement,
> then you sign and fax back. Then I'll write the application for you :)
> There's a one hour minimum, of course, so you will be billed for one hour
at
> $85.00/hr.
>
>
>
> "Scott@Charter" wrote in message
> news:017601c417b6$2a379930$020aa8c0@Scott...
> > Then why do these groups exist? Did you ever stop and think that maybe
I
> am
> > in a rush? Did you ever stop and think that maybe I am unemployed,
> looking
> > for a job, and can't afford a book? Did you ever stop and think that
> there
> > are kind, intelligent people out there who are willing and happy to just
> > answer questions politely that are asked politely? I guess we can't all
> > have your flare for life!
> >
> > Go spread your cheer in the grumpy user group. (and I'm being nice)
There
> > are nice people out there who are willing to help me out. Some people
> just
> > want/need a little help with certain things. Why did you become a
member
> of
> > this group?
> >
> > Besides, I have a useless Perl book.
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Perl

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Dear list,=20
dear Scott,

just to make life easier:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

This link is completly enough for mails of the type Scott wrote.
Eric and Rick did a very good job in telling people how to ask good questio=
ns.

Scott: Hopefully you read it and learn from it.

Have a nice day,

Nico

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Re: Perl

Nico,

Yes, there are people who know how to explain things properly, and with
class. To those of you who noticed I discontinued asking questions several
days ago. To be blind sided, and flamed, like the other guy did, several
days after the question was asked, was completely inappropriate.

I've never seen Bradley Thornton actually ever answer questions but only
flame me. I think that's all he's good for. Then he hides behind a news
group.

Thanks Nico!

-Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nico Schottelius"
To: "Scott@Charter"
Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group"
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: Perl


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Re: Perl

I love the smell of napalm in the morning...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scotts Charter"
To: "Nico Schottelius"
Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group"
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Perl


> Nico,
>
> Yes, there are people who know how to explain things properly, and with
> class. To those of you who noticed I discontinued asking questions
several
> days ago. To be blind sided, and flamed, like the other guy did, several
> days after the question was asked, was completely inappropriate.
>
> I've never seen Bradley Thornton actually ever answer questions but only
> flame me. I think that's all he's good for. Then he hides behind a news
> group.
>
> Thanks Nico!
>
> -Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nico Schottelius"
> To: "Scott@Charter"
> Cc: "Linux-Admin-Group"
> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 11:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Perl
>
>
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Re: Re: Perl

Wow! a flame war in the list! So these things do
happen in real life!...

---- Begin Original Message ----

From: "Adam Lang"
Sent: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:03:07 -0400
To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)
CC: "Linux-Admin-Group"
Subject: Re: Perl


I love the smell of napalm in the morning...


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Re: Perl

Scott@Charter wrote:

> Can anyone please help me with a short example Perl script that will print
> out all the odd numbers between 1 and 10? I don't know Perl and am trying
> to learn it. I wrote a bash script to do the same thing and wanted to
> compare it.
>
> There must be a Perl expert out there somewhere who can help me?
>
> Thanks-
> Scott

foreach ( 1 .. 10 ) {
print "$_ " if ($_ % 2 == 1);
}

".." is an operator that will return a list that is the range between left
and right. foreach will run the code block for each item of the list,
setting $_ to that item. print ... if does like it sounds, and % is the
modulo operator, in other words, it returns the remainder if the % had been
a /.

I hope this helps you, and I apologize for the unkind responses you have
received from the list here.

If you have any perl questions, you may try http://www.perlmonks.org


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