[OT] The Mighty Ed

[OT] The Mighty Ed

am 24.05.2005 13:37:37 von Alan Connor

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From: patl@athena.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti)
Subject: The True Path (long)
Date: 11 Jul 91 03:17:31 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.religion.emacs,alt.slack

When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both
vi *and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless
messages like, 'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So
I use the editor that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.

Ed, man! !man ed

ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1)

NAME
ed - text editor

SYNOPSIS

ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]

DESCRIPTION

Ed is the standard text editor.

---

Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else
loves ed because it's ED!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs

Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to
ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates
a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk
quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:

golem$ ed

?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?

------------------------------------------------------------ -----
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed
is generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to
overwhelm the novice with verbosity.

"Ed is the standard text editor."

Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.

ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF
EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT
YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!
ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!

When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of
worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want
an EDitor!! Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't
even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!

TEXT EDITOR.

When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs?
Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The
standard.

Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If
you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs,
you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO
REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE
BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED
HAS SPOKEN!!!

?

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:-)

AC

Re: The Mighty Ed

am 24.05.2005 14:57:58 von liljencrantz

Alan Connor wrote:
> -------------
>
> From: patl@athena.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti)
> Subject: The True Path (long)
> Date: 11 Jul 91 03:17:31 GMT
> Newsgroups: alt.religion.emacs,alt.slack
>
> When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both
> vi *and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless
> messages like, 'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So
> I use the editor that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
>
> Ed, man! !man ed
>
> ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1)
>
> NAME
> ed - text editor
>
> SYNOPSIS
>
> ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
>
> DESCRIPTION
>
> Ed is the standard text editor.
>
> ---
>
> Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
> alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else
> loves ed because it's ED!
>
> "Ed is the standard text editor."
>
> And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:
>
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed
> -rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs
>
> Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to
> ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates
> a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk
> quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!
>
> "Ed is the standard text editor."
>
> Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
>
> golem$ ed
>
> ?
> help
> ?
> ?
> ?
> quit
> ?
> exit
> ?
> bye
> ?
> hello?
> ?
> eat flaming death
> ?
> ^C
> ?
> ^C
> ?
> ^D
> ?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ -----
> Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed
> is generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to
> overwhelm the novice with verbosity.
>
> "Ed is the standard text editor."
>
> Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
>
> ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF
> EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT
> YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!
> ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
>
> When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of
> worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want
> an EDitor!! Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't
> even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
>
> TEXT EDITOR.
>
> When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
> "edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs?
> Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The
> standard.
>
> Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If
> you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs,
> you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO
> REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE
> BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED
> HAS SPOKEN!!!
>
> ?
>
> ---------------------
>
> :-)
>
> AC

Bah. Stateful editing is for small children and those with weak minds.
Grownups should at least use sed to manipulate files from the
commandline. And real men edit inodes by hand. Me, I use a dog whistle
and a microphone to send output in iSCSI format over my local network.

--
Axel

Re: The Mighty Ed

am 24.05.2005 22:08:57 von Alan Connor

On comp.unix.shell, in <1116939478.037351.300320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "liljencrantz@gmail.com" wrote:



> Bah. Stateful editing is for small children and those with weak
> minds. Grownups should at least use sed to manipulate files
> from the commandline. And real men edit inodes by hand. Me,
> I use a dog whistle and a microphone to send output in iSCSI
> format over my local network.
>
> -- Axel
>

:-)

Looks like The Mighty Ed has some real competition.

All hail The Awesome Axel!

:-/

AC