Best bulk email program?

I send out newsletter and ads to a relatively small group of fellow
Realtors. About 50K at most. I'm presently using Maillist King which is a
software based program. The program gets the job done but I don't like that
I get some complaints that those who try to unsubscribe can't always do so.
Also backing up the list of unsubscribe's is cumbersome. I now see there are
pgp and cgi scripts that work right online from the server. This Maillist
King seems to have most of the same features as for example, Active Campaign
by 12all. Would I be better off getting a php mailer? What brand do you
recommend and why? Feel free to reply to me privately if you don't want to
mention the program publicly. It's a real return address.

BTW please direct my to the most appropriate place to ask this question if
I'm off topic here.

--
Warmest regards,

Steve

Re: Best bulk email program?

On comp.mail.misc, in
,
"Steve Horrillo" wrote:

> I send out newsletter and ads to a relatively small
> group of fellow Realtors.

Sure you do.

> About 50K at most. I'm
> presently using Maillist King which is a software
> based program.

No kidding? A "software based program". Who'da thunk it?

All mine use little gears and levers.

> The program gets the job done but I
> don't like that I get some complaints that those who
> try to unsubscribe can't always do so.

You couldn't run a listserver if your life depended on it.

> Also backing
> up the list of unsubscribe's is cumbersome.

That's just gibberish.

> I now
> see there are pgp and cgi scripts that work right
> online from the server.

They don't work anywhere else, Einstein.

> This Maillist King seems to
> have most of the same features as for example, Active
> Campaign by 12all. Would I be better off getting a
> php mailer? What brand do you recommend and why?

php is software too, Moron. What did you think it was?
Chocolate ice cream?

> Feel
> free to reply to me privately if you don't want to
> mention the program publicly.

That makes no sense.

> It's a real return
> address.

So what?

>
> BTW please direct my to the most appropriate place to
> ask this question if I'm off topic here.

alt.stupid.wannabe-spammers

>
> -- Warmest regards,
>
> Steve

At least we know what your name isn't.

Stay out of my mailboxes, Asshole.

That's an order, not a request.


AC

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Use your real return address or I'll never know you
even tried to mail me. http://tinyurl.com/2t5kp
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Re: Best bulk email program?

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Usenet Beavis writes:

> On comp.mail.misc, in
> ,
> "Steve Horrillo" wrote:
>
>> I send out newsletter and ads to a relatively small
>> group of fellow Realtors.
>
> Sure you do.

Please ignore Beavis, he was dropped on his head as a child.

>> The program gets the job done but I
>> don't like that I get some complaints that those who
>> try to unsubscribe can't always do so.
>
> You couldn't run a listserver if your life depended on it.

What about you, Beavis? Tell us all about your amazing listserv admin
skills.

>> Also backing
>> up the list of unsubscribe's is cumbersome.
>
> That's just gibberish.

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.

>> I now
>> see there are pgp and cgi scripts that work right
>> online from the server.
>
> They don't work anywhere else, Einstein.

Pop quiz, Beavis: who else often uses the same term of endearment on this
newsgroup?

>> This Maillist King seems to
>> have most of the same features as for example, Active
>> Campaign by 12all. Would I be better off getting a
>> php mailer? What brand do you recommend and why?
>
> php is software too, Moron. What did you think it was?
> Chocolate ice cream?

Why not, Beavis? Do you have something against chocolate ice cream?

>> Feel
>> free to reply to me privately if you don't want to
>> mention the program publicly.
>
> That makes no sense.

Mr. Kettle, meet Mr. Pot.

>> It's a real return
>> address.
>
> So what?

It's more real than yours', Beavis.

>> BTW please direct my to the most appropriate place to
>> ask this question if I'm off topic here.
>
> alt.stupid.wannabe-spammers

alt.beavis.wanker.spank.spank.spank

>>
>> -- Warmest regards,
>>
>> Steve
>
> At least we know what your name isn't.
>
> Stay out of my mailboxes, Asshole.
>
> That's an order, not a request.

Beavis FAQ #11, below.


FAQ: Canonical list of questions Beavis refuses to answer (V1.30)

This is a canonical list of questions that Beavis never answers. This FAQ is
posted on a semi-regular schedule, as circumstances warrant.

For more information on Beavis, see:

http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

Although Beavis has been posting for a long time, he always remains silent
on the subjects enumerated below. His response, if any, usually consists of
replying to the parent post with a loud proclamation that his Usenet-reading
software runs a magical filter that automatically identifies anyone who's
making fun of him, and hides those offensive posts. For more information
see question #9 below.

============================================================ ================

1) If spammers avoid forging real E-mail addresses on spam, then where do
all these bounces everyone reports getting (for spam with their return
address was forged onto) come from?

2) If your Challenge-Response filter is so great, why do you still munge
when posting to Usenet?

3) Do you still believe that rsh is the best solution for remote access?
(http://tinyurl.com/5qqb6)

4) What is your evidence that everyone who disagrees with you, and thinks
that you're a moron, is a spammer?

5) How many different individuals do you believe really post to
comp.mail.misc? What is the evidence for your paranoid belief that everyone,
except you, who posts here is some unknown arch-nemesis of yours?

6) How many times, or how often, do you believe is necessary to announce
that you do not read someone's posts? What is your reason for making these
regularly-scheduled proclamations? Who do you believe is so interested in
keeping track of your Usenet-reading habits?

7) When was the last time you saw Bigfoot (http://tinyurl.com/23r3f)?

8) If your C-R system employs a spam filter so that it won't challenge spam,
then why does any of the mail that passes the filter, and is thusly presumed
not to be spam, need to be challenged?

9) You claim that the software you use to read Usenet magically identifies
any post that makes fun of you. In http://tinyurl.com/3swes you explain
that "What I get in my newsreader is a mock post with fake headers and no
body, except for the first parts of the Subject and From headers."

Since your headers indicate that you use slrn and, as far as anyone knows,
the stock slrn doesn't work that way, is this interesting patch to slrn
available for download anywhere?

10) You regularly post alleged logs of your procmail recipe autodeleting a
bunch of irrelevant mail that you've received. Why, and who exactly do you
believe is interested in your mail logs?

11) How exactly do you "enforce" an "order" to stay out of your mailbox,
supposedly (http://tinyurl.com/cs8jt)? Since you issue this "order" about
every week, or so, apparently nobody wants to follow it. What are you going
to do about it?

12) What's with your fascination with shit? (also http://tinyurl.com/cs8jt)?

13) You complain about some arch-nemesis of yours always posting forged
messages in your name. Can you come up with even a single URL, as an example
of what you're talking about?



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Re: Best bulk email program?

"Steve Horrillo" wrote in message
news:zIVpe.110439$J25.109747@bignews6.bellsouth.net...

> I send out newsletter and ads to a relatively small group of fellow
> Realtors. About 50K at most. I'm presently using Maillist King which is a
> software based program. The program gets the job done but I don't like
that
> I get some complaints that those who try to unsubscribe can't always do
so.
> Also backing up the list of unsubscribe's is cumbersome. I now see there
are
> pgp and cgi scripts that work right online from the server. This Maillist
> King seems to have most of the same features as for example, Active
Campaign
> by 12all. Would I be better off getting a php mailer? What brand do you
> recommend and why? Feel free to reply to me privately if you don't want to
> mention the program publicly. It's a real return address.
>
> BTW please direct my to the most appropriate place to ask this question if
> I'm off topic here.

news:news.admin.net-abuse.email will provide you with far more help.

Re: Best bulk email program?

On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:55:46 -0500, Sam wrote:

> Usenet Beavis writes:
>
>> On comp.mail.misc, in
>> ,
>> "Steve Horrillo" wrote:
>>
>>> I send out newsletter and ads to a relatively small
>>> group of fellow Realtors.
>>
>> Sure you do.
>
> Please ignore Beavis, he was dropped on his head as a child.

You're wrong Sam. Nothing that interesting could ever have happened in
it's life.

I clear out my krillfile, and there it is, as obnoxious as ever. Back in
it goes.

Although you need no prompting Sam, keep it up. I for one find your
comments funny and a very effective antidote to the moronic mutterings of
Beavis. I'm probably not alone in thinking this, although I'm probably
going to be the only one to say it.

Carry on.

Pete.

Re: Best bulk email program?

>>>>> "P" == Pete writes:

P> Although you need no prompting Sam, keep it up. I for one find your
P> comments funny and a very effective antidote to the moronic mutterings of
P> Beavis. I'm probably not alone in thinking this, although I'm probably
P> going to be the only one to say it.

Not true ;-)

He's been flapping his lips over in some of the comp.unix.* groups
lately, posting his usual crap.

P> Carry on.

P> Pete.

--
Neil

Re: Best bulk email program?

On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 19:51:51 +0100, Neil Woods wrote:

>>>>>> "P" == Pete writes:
>
> P> Although you need no prompting Sam, keep it up. I for one find your
> P> comments funny and a very effective antidote to the moronic mutterings of
> P> Beavis. I'm probably not alone in thinking this, although I'm probably
> P> going to be the only one to say it.
>
> Not true ;-)
>
> He's been flapping his lips over in some of the comp.unix.* groups
> lately, posting his usual crap.

I see Neil. UBCE applies here perhaps ? Usenet Beavis Complete Excrement ?

Pete.

Re: Best bulk email program?

ihaveenoughspamasitis@nospam.com wrote:

> I'm allowed to e-mail my Association members. I comply with CAN-SPAM as a
> courtesy not a requirement.

In that case, if you're legit, you might find that "mailman"
fits the bill.

http://www.list.org/

--
David.