Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 14.06.2005 10:12:37 von Ron Savage

Hi Folks

The Subject says it all.

I searched CPAN for Debian, but I see nothing promising.

Also, I had a look at=
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/perl-policy/
and http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp, but did not see anything relevant.

Re: Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 14.06.2005 19:35:40 von Eric Schwartz

Ron Savage writes:
> I searched CPAN for Debian, but I see nothing promising.

You won't, and it makes sense if you think about it-- CPAN is
concerned with producing CPAN modules, not Debian packages; that's
Debian's job.

> Also, I had a look at
> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/perl-policy/ and
> http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp, but did not see anything relevant.

You'll have to define your terms better-- what do yo mean by "a Perl
distro"? A collection of Perl modules? Are any of them packaged
already? The Perl interpreter, and its standard modules? An
interpreter, modules, and some extra ones of your own devising?

If you just want to define a collection of packages that you can
Depend: on, then you can build a meta-package that doesn't do
anything, just depends on the modules (and versions, if applicable) of
the things you need. There's no module required for this; you just
build it normally. There are plenty of examples you can look at to
see how this is done, but it's not really relevant here.

If you want to package some modules that are not already packaged, the
perl policy link you mentioned tells you exactly how to do this. It's
very simple; following the instructions, I was able to package some
lintian-clean Perl modules in about 10 minutes.

If you want the Perl interpreter plus modules, again, create a
meta-pacakge that depends on what you need.

In any event, you're better off asking for whatever it is that you
want on the debian-perl mailing list, instead of here. They will be
able to give you the best answers.

-=Eric

Re: Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 15.06.2005 00:49:08 von Ron Savage

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:35:40 +1000, Eric Schwartz wrote:

Hi Eric

> Ron Savage writes:
>> I searched CPAN for Debian, but I see nothing promising.
>>
> You won't, and it makes sense if you think about it-- CPAN is
> concerned with producing CPAN modules, not Debian packages; that's
> Debian's job.

Welcome to planet Earth, Eric. I hope you enjoy you're stay (and I hope it's=

brief).

CPAN does not (repeat not) produce modules, people do.

CPAN stores them in a publicly-accessible manner so as to make them=
available to
members of the human race.

Some of us store them as well [1].

>> Also, I had a look at
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/perl-policy/ and
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp, but did not see anything relevant.
>>
>
> You'll have to define your terms better-- what do yo mean by "a
> Perl distro"? A collection of Perl modules? Are any of them
> packaged already? The Perl interpreter, and its standard modules?
> An interpreter, modules, and some extra ones of your own devising?

Well, at least one of us made an effort...

[1] http://savage.net.au/Perl-modules.html

Re: Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 15.06.2005 18:14:20 von Eric Schwartz

Ron Savage writes:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:35:40 +1000, Eric Schwartz wrote:
>> Ron Savage writes:
>>> I searched CPAN for Debian, but I see nothing promising.
>>>
>> You won't, and it makes sense if you think about it-- CPAN is
>> concerned with producing CPAN modules, not Debian packages; that's
>> Debian's job.
>
> Welcome to planet Earth, Eric. I hope you enjoy you're stay (and I hope it's
> brief).

I'm astonished, though I suppose I shouldn't be, at both your
atrocious spelling and your wish that I should die simply for trying
to help you look in the right place for an answer to your problem. I
apologize for trying to be helpful, and you may rest assured it won't
happen again.

> CPAN does not (repeat not) produce modules, people do.

The White House is just a building, but people say "The White House
decided...". It's called metonymy. Look it up.

>> You'll have to define your terms better-- what do yo mean by "a
>> Perl distro"? A collection of Perl modules? Are any of them
>> packaged already? The Perl interpreter, and its standard modules?
>> An interpreter, modules, and some extra ones of your own devising?
>
> Well, at least one of us made an effort...

I notice that you didn't answer my questions. So much for your desire
to get any help.

Oh, by the way:

*PLONK*

-=Eric

Re: Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 15.06.2005 21:53:25 von Stephen Patterson

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 18:12:37 +1000, Ron Savage wrote:
> Hi Folks
>
> The Subject says it all.
>
> I searched CPAN for Debian, but I see nothing promising.
>
> Also, I had a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/perl-policy/
> and http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp, but did not see anything relevant.

Not on CPAN, but the debian package dh-make-perl can create a .deb
package of a perl module, optionally fetching the module automatically
from CPAN (--cpan option).

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Re: Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 16.06.2005 23:28:03 von keeling

Eric Schwartz :
> Ron Savage writes:
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 03:35:40 +1000, Eric Schwartz wrote:
> >> Ron Savage writes:
> >>> I searched CPAN for Debian, but I see nothing promising.
> >>>
> >> You won't, and it makes sense if you think about it-- CPAN is
> >> concerned with producing CPAN modules, not Debian packages; that's
> >> Debian's job.
> >
> > Welcome to planet Earth, Eric. I hope you enjoy you're stay (and I hope it's
> > brief).
>
> I'm astonished, though I suppose I shouldn't be, at both your
> atrocious spelling

Spelling flames are the lowest form of criticism.

> and your wish that I should die simply for trying

He was hoping that as a new arrival to the planet, your _stay_ would
be brief, not that your _life_ would be.

> to help you look in the right place for an answer to your problem. I

He was replying to your reply to the OP, Ron Savage. He was
suggesting your attempt to help Ron was less than helpful. I didn't
see much in your post to elicit his response, but that's between you
two.

> >> You'll have to define your terms better-- what do yo mean by "a
> >> Perl distro"? A collection of Perl modules? Are any of them
> >> packaged already? The Perl interpreter, and its standard modules?
> >> An interpreter, modules, and some extra ones of your own devising?
> >
> > Well, at least one of us made an effort...
>
> I notice that you didn't answer my questions. So much for your desire
> to get any help.

Those are questions you put to Ron.

> Oh, by the way:
>
> *PLONK*

Plonker, plonk thyself. btw, that last line is the whole point of
this post. Now you've plonked him, you'll not see his well justified
critique of your public display of pique.


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Re: Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 17.06.2005 02:03:22 von Sisyphus

"s. keeling" wrote in message
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>
> He was replying to your reply to the OP, Ron Savage.

Afaict, "He" and the "OP" and "Ron Savage" are all one and the same person.

> Plonker, plonk thyself. btw, that last line is the whole point of
> this post. Now you've plonked him, you'll not see his well justified
> critique of your public display of pique.

Well .... we're still waiting for that "well justified critique" .... and I
think we'll be waiting for a very long time :-)

Cheers,
Rob

Re: Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 17.06.2005 04:29:53 von keeling

Sisyphus :
> "s. keeling" wrote in message
> news:slrndb3rn2.36v.keeling@localhost.localdomain...
> >
> > He was replying to your reply to the OP, Ron Savage.
>
> Afaict, "He" and the "OP" and "Ron Savage" are all one and the same person.

Don't tell me AC and his nym-shifted self is here too, and I just fed
that troll.

> > Plonker, plonk thyself. btw, that last line is the whole point of
> > this post. Now you've plonked him, you'll not see his well justified
>
> Well .... we're still waiting for that "well justified critique" .... and I
> think we'll be waiting for a very long time :-)

fsck. Ya try to be helpful, ...


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Re: Q: Any module to convert a Perl distro into a Debian package?

am 23.06.2005 10:38:07 von Ron Savage

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 05:53:25 +1000, Stephen Patterson wrote:

Hi Stephen

> dh-make-perl

Ah-ha. $many x $thanx;