[comercial] Axigen mail server launched

am 30.06.2005 15:17:08 von Hans-Peter Sauer

Gecad Technologies announces for the first time since the transaction
with Microsoft for RAV AntiVirus intellectual property rights, the
launch of the software project we have been working on for the last two
years: AXIGEN Mail Server.

We designed the product to be very scalable and configurable, targeting
especially small & medium businesses. It features:

- SMTP/ESMTP
- POP3
- IMAP4
- built-in HTTP server & Webmail
- advanced Filtering (sieve scripts, connectors for external filters)

For now, Linux is the only OS supported, but the Windows version will be
shortly available.
You can download the first public release from www.axigen.com

Re: [comercial] Axigen mail server launched

am 30.06.2005 15:55:55 von Alan Connor

On comp.mail.misc, in
<42c3f0a3$0$59367$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
"Stelian Ene" wrote:

> Subject: Re: [comercial] Axigen mail server launched

There are two m's in commercial.

> Gecad Technologies announces for the first time since the
> transaction with Microsoft for RAV AntiVirus intellectual
> property rights, the launch of the software project we have
> been working on for the last two years: AXIGEN Mail Server.
>
> We designed the product to be very scalable and configurable,
> targeting especially small & medium businesses. It features:
>
> - SMTP/ESMTP POP3 IMAP4 built-in HTTP server & Webmail advanced
> - Filtering (sieve scripts, connectors for external filters)
>
> For now, Linux is the only OS supported, but the Windows
> version will be shortly available. You can download the first
> public release from www.axigen.com

I really don't like monolithic applications like that.

Troubleshooting and re-configuring is so much simpler when you
use discrete servers.

And if one of the servers stinks, or a better one is available,
you just replace it, everything else unaffected in any critical
way.

Nor would I use any software that isn't open source. Even
then, if it was ever touched or influenced by M$, I wouldn't
install it for at least a year. To give the open source
pros a chance to test it thoroughly.

Note: I don't even read the subjects (they are replaced with
XXXXXXX) of any posts by "Sam" and his numerous sockpuppets.

AC

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The "Beavis Bull"theme song (was Re: [comercial] Axigen mail server launched)

am 30.06.2005 16:36:12 von Sam

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> On comp.mail.misc, in
> <42c3f0a3$0$59367$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
> "Stelian Ene" wrote:
>
>> Subject: Re: [comercial] Axigen mail server launched
>
> There are two m's in commercial.

And one "B" in Beavis.

> I really don't like monolithic applications like that.

Too much strain on your brain?

> Troubleshooting and re-configuring is so much simpler when you
> use discrete servers.

And what do you know about that, Beavis?

> Note: I don't even read the subjects (they are replaced with
> XXXXXXX) of any posts by "Sam" and his numerous sockpuppets.

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for this, other than yourself.

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(sung to the theme song from "The Brady Bunch")

This is a story,
Of a kook named Beavis,
Who was spewing all his nonsense all day long,
Everyone knew it's full of bull,
There's no doubt,
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At all the nonsense our pet Beavis ever spewed.
He's as nutty as they come,
On alt.kooks,
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Re: [comercial] Axigen mail server launched

am 30.06.2005 16:50:47 von Hans-Peter Sauer

Alan Connor wrote:

> There are two m's in commercial.

Sorry about that.

> I really don't like monolithic applications like that.
>
> Troubleshooting and re-configuring is so much simpler when you
> use discrete servers.

I think both models fit particular needs.
For example, compare the 10-15 minutes you need to get Axigen running,
to the many hours/days a non-expert needs to install, configure & hack
to make the 6 or 7 equivalent open source applications work together
reliably.
And even then you would only have a subset of the functionality of a
monolithic mail server. For example, you will not have centralized
statistics & logging. Nor will you have a graphical admin interface.
Besides, the whole solution will have lower scalability. A typical
webmail interface uses Apache+PHP+Squirrelmail/Horde/etc.+IMAP/SMTP.
Compared to this, our webmail interface uses a server-side language
specifically designed for webmail use & highly optimized, with no
awkward IMAP connections.

Re: [comercial] Axigen mail server launched

am 30.06.2005 17:19:10 von Sam

Re: [comercial] Axigen mail server launched

am 30.06.2005 23:24:40 von Alan Connor

On comp.mail.misc, in
<42c4069c$0$62265$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net>,
"Stelian Ene" wrote:

> Alan Connor wrote:
>
>> There are two m's in commercial.
>
> Sorry about that.
>
>> I really don't like monolithic applications like that.
>>
>> Troubleshooting and re-configuring is so much simpler when you
>> use discrete servers.
>
> I think both models fit particular needs. For example, compare
> the 10-15 minutes you need to get Axigen running, to the many
> hours/days a non-expert needs to install, configure & hack
> to make the 6 or 7 equivalent open source applications work
> together reliably.

Non-experts have no business running commercial servers. Or
any servers at all, except for a few friends as a hobby.

> And even then you would only have a subset
> of the functionality of a monolithic mail server. For example,
> you will not have centralized statistics & logging.

A simple script.

> Nor will
> you have a graphical admin interface.

Usually, only non-experts like those stupid things.

Pros use the CLI for a number of very good reasons.

> Besides, the whole
> solution will have lower scalability.

No. The exigencies of the Internet prove you wrong there.

> A typical webmail
> interface uses Apache+PHP+Squirrelmail/Horde/etc.+IMAP/SMTP.
> Compared to this, our webmail interface uses a server-side
> language specifically designed for webmail use & highly
> optimized, with no awkward IMAP connections.

Web interfaces stink, for anything but web pages.

Especially web interfaces for mail. It is so simple to
just log into your home box and access your mail via POP/IMAP
from there, using decent tools that one is familiar with.

Or just to access servers directly from wherever you are.

I'm sure you have done an excellent job on your program.

But honestly, I shudder to think of a bunch of non-experts
running big servers.

Of course, that's where you plan to make a lot of your
money, through technical support, isn't it?

The Internet should allow Business to use it, but under
tight controls by standards that they have no say in.

Business has no principles and tends to use up whatever
it touches.

The Internet has been going downhill every since Business
took over from Academia.

AC