how can I rescue my email from the formats of Netscape and Outlook Express

am 13.11.2005 00:36:57 von Jake Barnes

Over the years I've used many email clients. I used Outlook Express for
a while, and then Thunderbird for a while. What I hate about these (and
most) email clients is that they do not save my emails as plain text.
Intead, they put all my email in a single file which only they know how
to parse. Thus I become dependent on the client software I use. I hate
this.

I'm tempted to write a program to break apart these single file masses
and rescue my email. But I assume others must have already done this.
Or perhaps others know of normal export options which I don't know of.

Can anyone furnish me with information on this? Can I export my
Thunderbird email to plain text format?

Has anyone created a program to do this? I'd pay good money for such a
program.

Re: how can I rescue my email from the formats of Netscape andOutlook Express

am 13.11.2005 01:15:27 von Alan Clifford

On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 lkrubner@geocities.com wrote:

>
> Has anyone created a program to do this? I'd pay good money for such a
> program.
>
>

Pine.

--
Alan

( If replying by mail, please note that all "sardines" are canned.
There is also a password autoresponder but, unless this a very
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Re: how can I rescue my email from the formats of Netscape and Outlook Express

am 13.11.2005 01:36:58 von Sam

"Sam" the Ultimate Snivelling Punk (was: Re: how can I rescue <snip>)

am 13.11.2005 02:11:07 von Alan Connor

On comp.mail.misc, in , "Sam" wrote:

Selections from his headers:

#Message-ID:
#From: Sam
#X-PGP-KEY: http://www.courier-mta.org/KEYS.bin
#Subject: Re: how can I rescue my email from the formats of Netscape and Outlook Express
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#NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.254.115.84
#X-Complaints-To: abuse@speakeasy.net

What a fucking PUNK.

PGP sig for this alias of his, dropped for all of his dozens and
dozens of other aliases.

Multipart content, which is an egregious violation of the Netiquette
and something that NO ONE else does on this or any related groups.

Another sophomoric illusion to make this alias of his seem to be
a seperate personality.

Also dropped for his other aliases. (at least the ones he usually
employs around here)

And he wonders why no one reads his posts but his own sockpuppets
and the odd stranger (who quickly learns that it is a waste of time
and downright unpleasant) and some of his fellow trolls.

I haven't read any of his posts in years.

And never will again. Nor any responses to them.

My newsreader is a Snivelling-Punk-Free-Zone.

Usenet Maxim: The more aliases a person has, the less likely it is
that they have anything to say worth reading.

I just needed to say the above. I won't be reading ANY responses
to this article.

AC

--
URLs of possible interest in my headers.

FAQ: Canonical list of questions Beavis refuses to answer (V1.40) (was Re: "Sam"the

am 13.11.2005 04:21:01 von Sam

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Usenet Beavis writes:

> On comp.mail.misc, in , "Sam" wrote:
>
>
> Selections from his headers:

Hear that, all you nay-sayers who claimed that Beavis didn't know how to
read headers?

Well, NYAH! There you go. Beavis right here, right now, proved you ALL
wrong.

Now, if he could only figure out what it meant.

> What a fucking PUNK.

Beavis, did you manage to get in touch with Bigfoot? He was in here
earlier, looking for you. He sounded lonely.

> Multipart content, which is an egregious violation of the Netiquette
> and something that NO ONE else does on this or any related groups.

Boo-hoo-hoo. Boo-hoo-hoo.

> Another sophomoric illusion to make this alias of his seem to be
> a seperate personality.
>
> Also dropped for his other aliases. (at least the ones he usually
> employs around here)

Beavis FAQ #5.

> And he wonders why no one reads his posts but his own sockpuppets
> and the odd stranger (who quickly learns that it is a waste of time
> and downright unpleasant) and some of his fellow trolls.
>
> I haven't read any of his posts in years.

FAQ #5, again.

> And never will again. Nor any responses to them.
>
> My newsreader is a Snivelling-Punk-Free-Zone.

Of course, as Beavis FAQ entry #9 indicates, asking Beavis for a link to
download this amazing patch to slrn always results in dead silence.

> I just needed to say the above. I won't be reading ANY responses
> to this article.

Of course not, Beavis. You never read anything that might make you learn
something.

FAQ: Canonical list of questions Beavis refuses to answer (V1.40)

This is a canonical list of questions that Beavis never answers. This FAQ is
posted on a semi-regular schedule, as circumstances warrant.

For more information on Beavis, see:

http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml

Although Beavis has been posting for a long time, he always remains silent
on the subjects enumerated below. His response, if any, usually consists of
replying to the parent post with a loud proclamation that his Usenet-reading
software runs a magical filter that automatically identifies anyone who's
making fun of him, and hides those offensive posts. For more information
see question #9 below.

============================================================ ================

1) If spammers avoid forging real E-mail addresses on spam, then where do
all these bounces everyone reports getting (for spam with their return
address was forged onto) come from?

2) If your Challenge-Response filter is so great, why do you still munge
when posting to Usenet?

3) Do you still believe that rsh is the best solution for remote access?
(http://tinyurl.com/5qqb6)

4) What is your evidence that everyone who disagrees with you, and thinks
that you're a moron, is a spammer?

5) How many different individuals do you believe really post to
comp.mail.misc? What is the evidence for your paranoid belief that everyone,
except you, who posts here is some unknown arch-nemesis of yours?

6) How many times, or how often, do you believe is necessary to announce
that you do not read someone's posts? What is your reason for making these
regularly-scheduled proclamations? Who do you believe is so interested in
keeping track of your Usenet-reading habits?

7) When was the last time you saw Bigfoot (http://tinyurl.com/23r3f)?

8) If your C-R system employs a spam filter so that it won't challenge spam,
then why does any of the mail that passes the filter, and is thusly presumed
not to be spam, need to be challenged?

9) You claim that the software you use to read Usenet magically identifies
any post that makes fun of you. In http://tinyurl.com/3swes you explain
that "What I get in my newsreader is a mock post with fake headers and no
body, except for the first parts of the Subject and From headers."

Since your headers indicate that you use slrn and, as far as anyone knows,
the stock slrn doesn't work that way, is this interesting patch to slrn
available for download anywhere?

10) You regularly post alleged logs of your procmail recipe autodeleting a
bunch of irrelevant mail that you've received. Why, and who exactly do you
believe is interested in your mail logs?

11) How exactly do you "enforce" an "order" to stay out of your mailbox,
supposedly (http://tinyurl.com/cs8jt)? Since you issue this "order" about
every week, or so, apparently nobody wants to follow it. What are you going
to do about it?

12) What's with your fascination with shit? (also http://tinyurl.com/cs8jt)?

13) You complain about some arch-nemesis of yours always posting forged
messages in your name. Can you come up with even a single URL, as an example
of what you're talking about?

14) You always complain about some mythical spammers that pretend to be
spamfighters (http://tinyurl.com/br4td). Who exactly are those people, and
can you post a copy of a spam that you supposedly received from them, that
proves that they're really spammers, and not spamfighters?

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Re: how can I rescue my email from the formats of Netscape and Outlook Express

am 13.11.2005 07:57:40 von bgates

lkrubner@geocities.com wrote:
> Over the years I've used many email clients. I used Outlook Express for
> a while, and then Thunderbird for a while. What I hate about these (and
> most) email clients is that they do not save my emails as plain text.
> Intead, they put all my email in a single file which only they know how
> to parse. Thus I become dependent on the client software I use. I hate
> this.

I agree: email should be plain text. You did not mention what your
OS is; I assume it is Micros~1 Windows. The solution is to use
Linux software. If you are not quite ready to install Linux, you
could get a shell account at an ISP. Then you could experiment with
various *nix software, and my recommendation for email is Mutt.
http://www.mutt.blackfish.org.uk/
http://www.mutt.org/

You probably want maildir instead of mbox:
http://www.mutt.blackfish.org.uk/storage/

Re: how can I rescue my email from the formats of Netscape and Outlook Express

am 13.11.2005 15:16:18 von Frank Slootweg

lkrubner@geocities.com wrote:
> Over the years I've used many email clients. I used Outlook Express for
> a while, and then Thunderbird for a while. What I hate about these (and
> most) email clients is that they do not save my emails as plain text.
> Intead, they put all my email in a single file which only they know how
> to parse. Thus I become dependent on the client software I use. I hate
> this.
>
> I'm tempted to write a program to break apart these single file masses
> and rescue my email. But I assume others must have already done this.
> Or perhaps others know of normal export options which I don't know of.
>
>
> Can anyone furnish me with information on this? Can I export my
> Thunderbird email to plain text format?
>
> Has anyone created a program to do this?

As Sam mentioned, Thunderbird already uses mbox format and it can
import Outlook Express folders (at least Netscape can), so problem
solved.

> I'd pay good money for such a program.

Please contact me offline, so I can give you my bank account details.