RE: [cgiapp] "Best free DB for a web-based Perl app" response results...

Hey Jeff --=20

> Regarding teh rest of your email, I have got to agree with you, most
> web apps use way more resources than they could possibly need, but you
> know what ? As a counter to your argument if you needed Oracle you'd
> just use Oracle VS PgSQL, in my life, if i only needed MySQL, i'd use
> SQL Lite.

I really don't think your "SQL Lite" analogy is a valid one. Oracle,
PgSQL and MySQL are hugely popular. SQL Lite is a skunk works with no
proven track record. =20


Quick Google hits check:

2,250,000 for "Oracle" +rdbms
756,000 for "MySQL" +rdbms
384,000 for "PostgreSQL" +rdbms
207 for "SQL Lite" +rdbms


A bit of a straw man, wouldn't you say?

-Jesse-


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Jesse Erlbaum
The Erlbaum Group
jesse@erlbaum.net
Phone: 212-684-6161
Fax: 212-684-6226
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Re: [cgiapp] "Best free DB for a web-based Perl app" response results...

Maybe you should try its correct spelling, SQLite :)

On 12/1/05, Jesse Erlbaum wrote:
> Hey Jeff --
>
> > Regarding teh rest of your email, I have got to agree with you, most
> > web apps use way more resources than they could possibly need, but you
> > know what ? As a counter to your argument if you needed Oracle you'd
> > just use Oracle VS PgSQL, in my life, if i only needed MySQL, i'd use
> > SQL Lite.
>
> I really don't think your "SQL Lite" analogy is a valid one. Oracle,
> PgSQL and MySQL are hugely popular. SQL Lite is a skunk works with no
> proven track record.
>
>
> Quick Google hits check:
>
> 2,250,000 for "Oracle" +rdbms
> 756,000 for "MySQL" +rdbms
> 384,000 for "PostgreSQL" +rdbms
> 207 for "SQL Lite" +rdbms
>
>
> A bit of a straw man, wouldn't you say?
>
> -Jesse-
>
>
> --
>
> Jesse Erlbaum
> The Erlbaum Group
> jesse@erlbaum.net
> Phone: 212-684-6161
> Fax: 212-684-6226
>
>

RE: [cgiapp] "Best free DB for a web-based Perl app" responseresults...

At 2:05 PM -0500 12/1/05, Jesse Erlbaum wrote:
>I really don't think your "SQL Lite" analogy is a valid one. Oracle,
>PgSQL and MySQL are hugely popular. SQL Lite is a skunk works with no
>proven track record.
>
>Quick Google hits check:
>
> 2,250,000 for "Oracle" +rdbms
> 756,000 for "MySQL" +rdbms
> 384,000 for "PostgreSQL" +rdbms
> 207 for "SQL Lite" +rdbms
>
>A bit of a straw man, wouldn't you say?

I just *had* to reply to this one.

You made one of the biggest argument mistakes possible, which is
basing judgement on blatently incorrect data.

Namely, you spelled "SQLite" wrong, so of course Google wouldn't find it.

Given the correct spelling, you would get *101,000* hits for SQLite +
rdbms. While lesser than the others, its still the same order of
magnitude as MySQL or PostgreSQL.

2,260,000 for: Oracle rdbms
740,000 for: MySQL rdbms
431,000 for: Postgres rdbms (which also returns 'PostgreSQL' numbers
101,000 for: SQLite rdbms

SQLite is also far from a skunk works project and has a strong proven
track record.

It has been around for a long time and being used in a huge number of
applications and devices. (Most recently, its even built into Mac OS
X 10.4 for its Core Data component.) Many uses aren't even
advertised, since it is public domain and users don't have to say
they're using it.

It also has dozens of active developers and a very busy mailing list.

Its inventer, D Richard Hipp, was also honored with a top award at
OSCON this year due to SQLite being one of the strongest movers and
benefits to the open source community.

So some criticism of SQLite is warranted, such a scalability with
lots of writers, but not what you said.

-- Darren Duncan

Re: [cgiapp] "Best free DB for a web-based Perl app" responseresults...

On Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:05:17 -0500, "Jesse Erlbaum" wrote:
> Hey Jeff --
> > Regarding teh rest of your email, I have got to agree with you, most
> > web apps use way more resources than they could possibly need, but you
> > know what ? As a counter to your argument if you needed Oracle you'd
> > just use Oracle VS PgSQL, in my life, if i only needed MySQL, i'd use
> > SQL Lite.
>
> I really don't think your "SQL Lite" analogy is a valid one. Oracle,
> PgSQL and MySQL are hugely popular. SQL Lite is a skunk works with no
> proven track record.
>
> Quick Google hits check:
>
> 2,250,000 for "Oracle" +rdbms
> 756,000 for "MySQL" +rdbms
> 384,000 for "PostgreSQL" +rdbms
> 207 for "SQL Lite" +rdbms
>

Not that this really matters much , but you get a few more hits if you
spell it correctly...
"Results 1 - 10 of about 3,000,000 for SQLite."

Dave

> A bit of a straw man, wouldn't you say?
>
> -Jesse-
>