Reinstallation

I tried installing Source Mage with custom kernels. I don't have the time to
figure this out now and would like to remove everything and start over with
Mandrake. (Whose evils I know how to cure.) What is the easiest way to do
this. I have absolutely no data on the hard drive.

Cordially,
S. Barret Dolph
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Re: Reinstallation

On Tuesday 30 March 2004 07:44, S. Barret Dolph wrote:
> I tried installing Source Mage with custom kernels. I don't have the time
> to figure this out now and would like to remove everything and start over
> with Mandrake. (Whose evils I know how to cure.) What is the easiest way to
> do this. I have absolutely no data on the hard drive.

Simply tell mandrake to use all the disk or the use the partitions which are
in use with the old install.

> Cordially,
> S. Barret Dolph

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Re: Reinstallation

A more detailed approach.

I made a mess of installing a custom kernal. (2.4x). I tried again with a new
kernel. 2.64. This didn't work so I decided to start again as there was
little installed. I downloaded the newest source mage (with the 2.63
kernetl), deleted all partitions, reformatted the partitions, transfered the
basic install. But when I got to the splash screen I was given the list of
2.4x or 2.64. I would have guessed that fdisk would have erased all that. I
still have problems with my cd as I can't even load Knoppix.

I would have guessed that reformatting the disk would wipe everything out but
it seems not to be the case.

On Tuesday March 30 2004 17:44, pa3gcu wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 09:11, S. Barret Dolph wrote:
> > That doesn't work. The partitioning works but after that I nothing gets
> > installed. Is there a way to remove the prior distribution before
> > reinstalling?
>
> Then you are doing it wrong as you have the choose of formating the
> partitions via disk druid, its as easy as that.
>
> If you want to you can delete the old stuff easily, simply start your old
> distro and use fdisk to delete the partitions.
> I can assure you there is no need to do that at all.

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Re: Reinstallation

On Tuesday 30 March 2004 20:29, S. Barret Dolph wrote:
> I would have guessed that reformatting the disk would wipe everything out
> but it seems not to be the case.

That is your MBR not your disk partitions working, your disk MBR is the first
512 bytes and is NOt a partition as such.

If you boot from a CDrom or floppy then you will have no problems with your
disks MBR (Master Boot Record) as it will be ignored.

Mandrake cdroms are bootable, you will possably need to set your BIOS to boot
from CDrom, is that your problem, you seem to be getting things all mixed up.

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Re: Reinstallation

I have no problems booting the Mandrake disk. It goes fine up with changing
partitions, mounting partitions, but after I have selected the software it
takes a very long time to say problems installing every single package.


On Wednesday March 31 2004 02:50, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 March 2004 20:29, S. Barret Dolph wrote:
> > I would have guessed that reformatting the disk would wipe everything out
> > but it seems not to be the case.
>
> That is your MBR not your disk partitions working, your disk MBR is the
> first 512 bytes and is NOt a partition as such.
>
> If you boot from a CDrom or floppy then you will have no problems with your
> disks MBR (Master Boot Record) as it will be ignored.
>
> Mandrake cdroms are bootable, you will possably need to set your BIOS to
> boot from CDrom, is that your problem, you seem to be getting things all
> mixed up.

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Re: Reinstallation

On Tuesday 30 March 2004 20:53, S. Barret Dolph wrote:
> I have no problems booting the Mandrake disk. It goes fine up with changing
> partitions, mounting partitions, but after I have selected the software it
> takes a very long time to say problems installing every single package.

Just what do you mean.???

What do you do in terms of commands, do you format the partitions, ? etc
etc.???

Help us to help you, we cannot see what happens on your screen, you have to
tell us letter for letter.

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Regards Richard
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Re: Reinstallation

I redid the partitions and then formatted them with Reiserfs. I then selected
the packages to be installed. None of the packages could be installed. After
waiting quite a while I got messages saying, for example, xxx program had
problems do you want to continue. There was a message for every package
apparently.
>
> Just what do you mean.???
>
> What do you do in terms of commands, do you format the partitions, ? etc
> etc.???
>
> Help us to help you, we cannot see what happens on your screen, you have to
> tell us letter for letter.

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Re: Reinstallation

At 03:13 AM 3/31/2004 +0800, S. Barret Dolph wrote:
>I redid the partitions and then formatted them with Reiserfs. I then selected
>the packages to be installed. None of the packages could be installed. After
>waiting quite a while I got messages saying, for example, xxx program had
>problems do you want to continue. There was a message for every package
>apparently.

Sorry to jump into this late, but I'm about as confused as Richard is (and
since I live 8 time zones west of Richard, perhaps it's time for me to pop
in so he can go to dinner).

"xxx program had problems do you want to continue" is not an example. It
is a paraphrase, and rather an uninformative one. Does the message really
say nothing more informative than "had problems"? Does it really call each
a "program", not a "package"? I doubt it ... I recall Knoppix as a Debian
derivative, and the Debian style of messages is very different from what
you are reporting ... but the best way to tell is to see an actual,
complete example.

I haven't installed Knoppix here, so I'm fishing a bit to think of what
might be causing problems.

Does the install kernel support Reiserfs out of the box? Might the root (/)
partition need to be ext2 or ext3, for example? Or might you need to load a
kernel module before doing package installation?

Technically, Linux users do not "format" partitions ... we create
partitions with fdisk (or a relative) and put filesystems on them with
mke2fs (or the one appropriate for your filesystem type). Did you do both
steps?

Please describe the steps you are taking a bit more exactly, provide actual
examples of error messages, and give us the structure of the system (such
as the output of "df" and "uname -a" and "ls -l /" ... at this point, the
description is so vague that I'm not really sure what else to ask for).

PS - Kernels have names like 2.6.4 and 2.4.x, not 2.64 and 2.4x.



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Re: Reinstallation

On Tuesday 30 March 2004 21:13, S. Barret Dolph wrote:
> I redid the partitions and then formatted them with Reiserfs. I then
> selected the packages to be installed. None of the packages could be
> installed. After waiting quite a while I got messages saying, for example,
> xxx program had problems do you want to continue. There was a message for
> every package apparently.
>
> > Just what do you mean.???
> >
> > What do you do in terms of commands, do you format the partitions, ? etc
> > etc.???
> >
> > Help us to help you, we cannot see what happens on your screen, you have
> > to tell us letter for letter.
>

Thats not very informative is it, like i said if you want help then we need
the error messages letter for letter.

Firstly i suggest you go to;

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/hardware.php3
Make sure your hardware is compatable.
Then
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/fdoc.php3
Look for an install document.
Or read it from the source CD.
If you have followed the documentation to the "Tee" and things still go wrong
then write and tell us what goes wrong where it goes wrong and the "exacht"
error messages.

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Regards Richard
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Re: Reinstallation

The message reads, from a Mandrake installation, ....There was an error
installing packages XXX. Do you wish to continue. This goes through every
package I selected.

File partitions. I used fdisk to partition and then put Reseirfs on them.

Then I let Mandrake do the partitioning automatically.

The result was the same.

>
> "xxx program had problems do you want to continue" is not an example. It
> is a paraphrase, and rather an uninformative one. Does the message really
> say nothing more informative than "had problems"? Does it really call each
> a "program", not a "package"? I doubt it ... I recall Knoppix as a Debian
> derivative, and the Debian style of messages is very different from what
> you are reporting ... but the best way to tell is to see an actual,
> complete example.


>
> I haven't installed Knoppix here, so I'm fishing a bit to think of what
> might be causing problems.
>
> Does the install kernel support Reiserfs out of the box? Might the root (/)
> partition need to be ext2 or ext3, for example? Or might you need to load a
> kernel module before doing package installation?
>
> Technically, Linux users do not "format" partitions ... we create
> partitions with fdisk (or a relative) and put filesystems on them with
> mke2fs (or the one appropriate for your filesystem type). Did you do both
> steps?
>
> Please describe the steps you are taking a bit more exactly, provide actual
> examples of error messages, and give us the structure of the system (such
> as the output of "df" and "uname -a" and "ls -l /" ... at this point, the
> description is so vague that I'm not really sure what else to ask for).
>
> PS - Kernels have names like 2.6.4 and 2.4.x, not 2.64 and 2.4x.
>
>
>
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Re: Reinstallation

On Thursday 01 April 2004 06:36, S. Barret Dolph wrote:
> The message reads, from a Mandrake installation, ....There was an err=
or
> installing packages XXX. Do you wish to continue. This goes through e=
very
> package I selected.
>
> File partitions. I used fdisk to partition and then put Reseirfs on t=
hem.
>
> Then I let Mandrake do =A0the partitioning automatically.
>
> The result was the same.

If you used fdisk as you say and oyu created a reiserfs filesystem, the=
n its=20
madness to let Mandrake do it again.

The error message you are getting can be caused by two things.

1) No mount point defined in the partitions section of the install.
2) You source medium is corrupt, use MD5 to check it.

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Regards Richard
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