Re: Subject: screen resolution!

At 08:41 05/02/2006, you wrote:
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>Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 02:44:19 +1100 (EST)
>From: JeRRy
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>Subject: screen resolution!
>
>Hi,
>
> I have written a website in PHP using MYSQL. But I have come
> accross an un-common problem. Normally when I create a website
> it's done on a desktop PC. But this time for the first time I did
> it on laptop meaning the screen resolution is different.
>
> Is there any sort of script/code I can use to create another
> section of my site in a desired screen resolution without me having
> to do it all manually?


I would really recommend that screen size / resolution detection is
no longer the way forward. It's perfectly possible to use CSS +/-
XHTML correctly to have the page reflow without all the stylesheet
switching hacks that would be required in the 'old school' (read :
1999) way of doing things.

You'd need to use structural markup rather than try to 'force to fit'
with tables etc, but it's entirely possible to generate flexible
layouts that can display on any device, even a PDA, without screen
size detection. Search engines like sematic layout too, and your menu
for example may not be the first thing they or a screen reader
encounters in the page - though it may *appear* at the top of the
page due to CSS telling it where to be displayed.


Here are some links for you to consider : all are worth reading and
digesting from end to end.

http://glish.com/css/8.asp
http://www.alistapart.com/stories/journey/
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/
http://www.csszengarden.com/


> I know of many scripts online that I can DETERMINE visitors
> screen resolutions and recommend the

** Assuming javascript is turned on, or even the display device
supports that detection.
And bear in mind, many users *may not wish* to have their browser
maximised just to view your site.

HTH
Cheers - Neil

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Re: Re: Subject: screen resolution!

I suggest you use JavaScript rather than PHP, because when using server side
scripts, you most probably need to use functions/variables out of the
Document Object Model (DOM).

When you use JavaScript, no extra trafic is generated on the
network/internet, and that isn't even necessary!

Specificaly, use the javascript variables
"document.body.clientWidth|clientHeight", inside a JavaScript. When these
variables, that represent the number of pixels of the browser-window, are
read, then you can draw anything to the screen that fits into these values
of pixels. You don't need separate css-stylesheets or tables, as mentioned
by the other posters in this thread!

E.g.




(I allready posted this message, but it was only sent to JeRRy. Oops!)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Smith [MVP, Digital media]"
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: [PHP-DB] Re: Subject: screen resolution!


> At 08:41 05/02/2006, you wrote:
>>Message-ID: <20060204154419.49614.qmail@web34811.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>>Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 02:44:19 +1100 (EST)
>>From: JeRRy
>>To: php-db@lists.php.net
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>boundary="0-733704850-1139067859=:48594"
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>>Subject: screen resolution!
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>> I have written a website in PHP using MYSQL. But I have come accross
>> an un-common problem. Normally when I create a website it's done on a
>> desktop PC. But this time for the first time I did it on laptop meaning
>> the screen resolution is different.
>>
>> Is there any sort of script/code I can use to create another section of
>> my site in a desired screen resolution without me having to do it all
>> manually?
>
>
> I would really recommend that screen size / resolution detection is no
> longer the way forward. It's perfectly possible to use CSS +/- XHTML
> correctly to have the page reflow without all the stylesheet switching
> hacks that would be required in the 'old school' (read : 1999) way of
> doing things.
>
> You'd need to use structural markup rather than try to 'force to fit' with
> tables etc, but it's entirely possible to generate flexible layouts that
> can display on any device, even a PDA, without screen size detection.
> Search engines like sematic layout too, and your menu for example may not
> be the first thing they or a screen reader encounters in the page - though
> it may *appear* at the top of the page due to CSS telling it where to be
> displayed.
>
>
> Here are some links for you to consider : all are worth reading and
> digesting from end to end.
>
> http://glish.com/css/8.asp
> http://www.alistapart.com/stories/journey/
> http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/
> http://www.csszengarden.com/
>
>
>> I know of many scripts online that I can DETERMINE visitors screen
>> resolutions and recommend the
>
> ** Assuming javascript is turned on, or even the display device supports
> that detection.
> And bear in mind, many users *may not wish* to have their browser
> maximised just to view your site.
>
> HTH
> Cheers - Neil
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> PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/)
> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
>

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