opening a port without root permission

Hi,
Is there any way one can open a port, in my specific case - the ARP port, so that I could do an Arping without a root access ?

Or is there any way the root could give permission to a user to open a port ?

Or does anyone know a way by which I can extract the MAC address of a remote machine in a different subnet, where I do not have to be a super-user?

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

-Anshuman

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Re: opening a port without root permission

On Tuesday 29 June 2004 08:20 pm, Anshuman Singh Rawat wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there any way one can open a port, in my specific case - the ARP port,
> so that I could do an Arping without a root access ?
>
> Or is there any way the root could give permission to a user to open a port
> ?
>
> Or does anyone know a way by which I can extract the MAC address of a
> remote machine in a different subnet, where I do not have to be a
> super-user?
>
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.

sudo

This program will allow root to give normal users "root" access to specified
programs with or without a password.

To see if its already installed do

"man sudo"
or
"visudo"


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getting MAC addresses (was: Re: opening a port without root permission)

At 09:20 PM 6/29/2004 -0400, Anshuman Singh Rawat wrote:
>Hi,
>Is there any way one can open a port, in my specific case - the ARP port,
>so that I could do an Arping without a root access ?
>
>Or is there any way the root could give permission to a user to open a port ?
>
>Or does anyone know a way by which I can extract the MAC address of a
>remote machine in a different subnet, where I do not have to be a super-user?
>
>Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>Thanks.

Others already suggested "sudo" as the way to deal with the arping problem.
But... are you really able to use arping to get MAC addresses of hosts not
on the Ethernet local to the host you arping from? (I assume that is what
you mean by "in a different subnet".)

I was curious about this, so I tested it here. With the current Debian-Sid
version of arping, arping'ing the IP address of a host on my DMZ from my
LAN returns the MAC address of my router (since it does proxy arp), NOT the
MAC address of the target host's own interface. If I arping the actual MAC
address of the DMZ host (as shown in the arp table of my router), I get no
response.

Am I missing something? I ask because this problem -- how to get the MAC
address of a non-local host -- comes up again and again, and I always
believed there was no solution to it (excluding ones that involve running
some application on the target host). Am I mistaken?



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Re: getting MAC addresses (was: Re: opening a port without root permission)

On Wednesday 30 June 2004 11:39 am, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> At 09:20 PM 6/29/2004 -0400, Anshuman Singh Rawat wrote:
> >Hi,
> >Is there any way one can open a port, in my specific case - the ARP port,
> >so that I could do an Arping without a root access ?
> >
> >Or is there any way the root could give permission to a user to open a
> > port ?
> >
> >Or does anyone know a way by which I can extract the MAC address of a
> >remote machine in a different subnet, where I do not have to be a
> > super-user?
> >
> >Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
> >Thanks.
>
> Others already suggested "sudo" as the way to deal with the arping problem.
> But... are you really able to use arping to get MAC addresses of hosts not
> on the Ethernet local to the host you arping from? (I assume that is what
> you mean by "in a different subnet".)
>
> I was curious about this, so I tested it here. With the current Debian-Sid
> version of arping, arping'ing the IP address of a host on my DMZ from my
> LAN returns the MAC address of my router (since it does proxy arp), NOT the
> MAC address of the target host's own interface. If I arping the actual MAC
> address of the DMZ host (as shown in the arp table of my router), I get no
> response.
>
> Am I missing something? I ask because this problem -- how to get the MAC
> address of a non-local host -- comes up again and again, and I always
> believed there was no solution to it (excluding ones that involve running
> some application on the target host). Am I mistaken?
>

As far as I know there is no way to get the MAC address across subnets. I
believe the problem is the source MAC gets stripped off when it hits the
router and the MAC of the router is used. This would be possible if you are
on a *briged* network I believe, but there is little to no hope on a routed
network.

Try telnet/ssh tot he remote and then ifconfig ;)
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