Windows of Linux

Hello all,

Im about to start a service that will be doing about 50 transactions a
day so will grow to quite a large size.

i was wondering without considering network security, which backend
would be the best? windows or linux - we have 500 different clients who
*might* all connect at the same time, in addition to the sheer size the
database will grow to...

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Re: Windows of Linux

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jangita"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:10 PM
Subject: Windows of Linux


> Hello all,
>
> Im about to start a service that will be doing about 50 transactions a day
> so will grow to quite a large size.
>
> i was wondering without considering network security, which backend would
> be the best? windows or linux - we have 500 different clients who *might*
> all connect at the same time, in addition to the sheer size the database
> will grow to...
>
I'm Windows user but for production mysql server I recommend Linux. It is
more stable then Windows and require cheaper hardware for the same computing
power. And last but not least - Linux do not know what is the virus :-)

Petr Vileta, Czech republic
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Re: Windows of Linux

On 5/11/06, Petr Vileta wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jangita"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:10 PM
> Subject: Windows of Linux
>
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Im about to start a service that will be doing about 50 transactions a =
day
> > so will grow to quite a large size.
> >
> > i was wondering without considering network security, which backend wou=
ld
> > be the best? windows or linux - we have 500 different clients who *migh=
t*
> > all connect at the same time, in addition to the sheer size the databas=
e
> > will grow to...
> >
> I'm Windows user but for production mysql server I recommend Linux. It is
> more stable then Windows and require cheaper hardware for the same comput=
ing
> power. And last but not least - Linux do not know what is the virus :-)
>
> Petr Vileta, Czech republic

I agree with Petr, Windows is not so bad (I'm a Linux user and a
Windows gamer) but can't be considered (and I tried all versions)
stable enough for a production environment (IMHO, please no flames as
I'm not saying this because I hate Microsoft or anything, its just MY
SINGLE experience in many computing labs).

I have a Pentium 100 with 48MB of RAM running Linux and mirroring a
production server with 5 giant databases and thousands of daily
queries. Can Windows do that?

Anyway, MySQL is so portable that for many years I developed and
tested applications at Windows and then ported it with NO EFFORT at
all to my production Linux server, and even have run a Windows server
for a few months, MySQL is pretty stable and any problems should come
from the OS, so, stick with what you think is more stable and less
likely to error out.

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Re: Windows of Linux

Ok im sold to linux

debian?

Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> On 5/11/06, Petr Vileta wrote:
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jangita"
>> To:
>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:10 PM
>> Subject: Windows of Linux
>>
>>
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > Im about to start a service that will be doing about 50 transactions
>> a day
>> > so will grow to quite a large size.
>> >
>> > i was wondering without considering network security, which backend
>> would
>> > be the best? windows or linux - we have 500 different clients who
>> *might*
>> > all connect at the same time, in addition to the sheer size the
>> database
>> > will grow to...
>> >
>> I'm Windows user but for production mysql server I recommend Linux. It is
>> more stable then Windows and require cheaper hardware for the same
>> computing
>> power. And last but not least - Linux do not know what is the virus :-)
>>
>> Petr Vileta, Czech republic
>
> I agree with Petr, Windows is not so bad (I'm a Linux user and a
> Windows gamer) but can't be considered (and I tried all versions)
> stable enough for a production environment (IMHO, please no flames as
> I'm not saying this because I hate Microsoft or anything, its just MY
> SINGLE experience in many computing labs).
>
> I have a Pentium 100 with 48MB of RAM running Linux and mirroring a
> production server with 5 giant databases and thousands of daily
> queries. Can Windows do that?
>
> Anyway, MySQL is so portable that for many years I developed and
> tested applications at Windows and then ported it with NO EFFORT at
> all to my production Linux server, and even have run a Windows server
> for a few months, MySQL is pretty stable and any problems should come
> from the OS, so, stick with what you think is more stable and less
> likely to error out.
>

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Re: Windows of Linux

of course :D


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jangita"
To:
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Windows of Linux


> Ok im sold to linux
>
> debian?
>
> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>> On 5/11/06, Petr Vileta wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jangita"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:10 PM
>>> Subject: Windows of Linux
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> > Im about to start a service that will be doing about 50 transactions
>>> a day
>>> > so will grow to quite a large size.
>>> >
>>> > i was wondering without considering network security, which backend
>>> would
>>> > be the best? windows or linux - we have 500 different clients who
>>> *might*
>>> > all connect at the same time, in addition to the sheer size the
>>> database
>>> > will grow to...
>>> >
>>> I'm Windows user but for production mysql server I recommend Linux. It
>>> is
>>> more stable then Windows and require cheaper hardware for the same
>>> computing
>>> power. And last but not least - Linux do not know what is the virus :-)
>>>
>>> Petr Vileta, Czech republic
>>
>> I agree with Petr, Windows is not so bad (I'm a Linux user and a
>> Windows gamer) but can't be considered (and I tried all versions)
>> stable enough for a production environment (IMHO, please no flames as
>> I'm not saying this because I hate Microsoft or anything, its just MY
>> SINGLE experience in many computing labs).
>>
>> I have a Pentium 100 with 48MB of RAM running Linux and mirroring a
>> production server with 5 giant databases and thousands of daily
>> queries. Can Windows do that?
>>
>> Anyway, MySQL is so portable that for many years I developed and
>> tested applications at Windows and then ported it with NO EFFORT at
>> all to my production Linux server, and even have run a Windows server
>> for a few months, MySQL is pretty stable and any problems should come
>> from the OS, so, stick with what you think is more stable and less
>> likely to error out.
>>
>
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Re: Windows of Linux

On 5/11/06, Jangita wrote:
> Ok im sold to linux
>
> debian?

You REALLY should not post something like that ;) sound like a troll.
Debian, RH, Madriva, whatever you want, if you really configure it the
right way, it will serve the purpose. Just use what you are most
confortable with.

I personally use Gentoo for all my PHP/Apache/MySQL servers, easy to
mantain and extremely fast. Ok, forget that last line, I don't wanna
start one more of the millions of "what's the best distro" thread.

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Re: Windows of Linux

Not to start a "which is the best distro" discussion, but you should
really make the choice based on the importance of the system. I'd
personally choose a reputable and respectable organization which can
provide you service and support of the distro you install. If it's more
of a personal choice, well hell go with whatever you see fit, but as
everyone else says, it's all in the configuration. That's where a
supportive vendor makes the difference.. they can assist you with
ensuring it's done right. Cheers.

Armando

Jangita wrote:
> Ok im sold to linux
>
> debian?
>
> Daniel da Veiga wrote:
>
>> On 5/11/06, Petr Vileta wrote:
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jangita"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:10 PM
>>> Subject: Windows of Linux
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> > Im about to start a service that will be doing about 50
>>> transactions a day
>>> > so will grow to quite a large size.
>>> >
>>> > i was wondering without considering network security, which backend
>>> would
>>> > be the best? windows or linux - we have 500 different clients who
>>> *might*
>>> > all connect at the same time, in addition to the sheer size the
>>> database
>>> > will grow to...
>>> >
>>> I'm Windows user but for production mysql server I recommend Linux.
>>> It is
>>> more stable then Windows and require cheaper hardware for the same
>>> computing
>>> power. And last but not least - Linux do not know what is the virus :-)
>>>
>>> Petr Vileta, Czech republic
>>
>>
>> I agree with Petr, Windows is not so bad (I'm a Linux user and a
>> Windows gamer) but can't be considered (and I tried all versions)
>> stable enough for a production environment (IMHO, please no flames as
>> I'm not saying this because I hate Microsoft or anything, its just MY
>> SINGLE experience in many computing labs).
>>
>> I have a Pentium 100 with 48MB of RAM running Linux and mirroring a
>> production server with 5 giant databases and thousands of daily
>> queries. Can Windows do that?
>>
>> Anyway, MySQL is so portable that for many years I developed and
>> tested applications at Windows and then ported it with NO EFFORT at
>> all to my production Linux server, and even have run a Windows server
>> for a few months, MySQL is pretty stable and any problems should come
>> from the OS, so, stick with what you think is more stable and less
>> likely to error out.
>>
>

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Re: Windows of Linux

On 5/11/06, Armando wrote:
> Not to start a "which is the best distro" discussion, but you should
> really make the choice based on the importance of the system. I'd
> personally choose a reputable and respectable organization which can
> provide you service and support of the distro you install. If it's more
> of a personal choice, well hell go with whatever you see fit, but as
> everyone else says, it's all in the configuration. That's where a
> supportive vendor makes the difference.. they can assist you with
> ensuring it's done right. Cheers.
>

I used to agree with you, till I go to a big corporation where some
systems MUST run flawless, or if anything happens, at least can be
fixed asap. Most third party enterprises provides support with hours
of delay, wich in my case is just impossible, we need support in the
place of the problem, at the time of the problem and that the support
knows the system enough to diagnostic and fix it. So, the whole corp
took it to a level where right now few of our apps depend on anyone
else besides our own, decentralized TI staff in 9 different geographic
locations.

So, if you are going to build a system, know it, from the toolchain to
the last desktop application, so, if it break, you know how to fix it.
This will ensure that no third party will take your job. I even
started runnign Linux at home and at all desktops I've installed for
personal use. Doesn't matter if you run Linux or Windows in this case,
you must know the system like you know your body, to the point where
if the machine makes a different NOISE you can tell what's wrong, OK,
that's a little difficult, but you got the point.

What kept me in my old jobs and at this one too was never say to an
hierarquical superior:

"I don't know how to fix this."

That's the main reason I still kept signing this list, even migrating
all my MySQL servers to Linux. I must keep my knowledge alive, who
knows when I'll have to install a Windows server with MySQL?

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