IE does not offer to open item downloaded via https

Hi,

I'm trying to investigate a problem wher IE does not offer to open a item
downloaded via https. So far can only reproduce on Windows 2003 Server
_Enterprise Edition_ with SP1 installed. Could not repro with Standard
Edition.

Can be reproduced like this:
On some other server:
Create a text file called test.foobar in an IIS virtual directory
Register a mime type of "application/x-foobar" in IIS for this extension.
Use explorer on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
Register notepad as the application that opens .foobar files
Use IE on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
Use http to browse to the test.foobar file - IE will offer to Open, Save
or Cancel
Use https to the same file and IE will only offer Save or Cancel

Anyone know why this might be?

Cheers,
Richard.

Re: IE does not offer to open item downloaded via https

It looks like a change with IE on Windows Server 2003 and SP1. I would
inquire with the IE folks.

IIS can only offer browser HINT of what to do, based on MIME Type, but since
you configured it to be the same, you are really looking at client-side
behavior change.

--
//David
IIS
http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
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//

"Richard Glanville" wrote in message
news:794D6023-07AF-4629-8172-B6737E612BD4@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to investigate a problem wher IE does not offer to open a item
> downloaded via https. So far can only reproduce on Windows 2003 Server
> _Enterprise Edition_ with SP1 installed. Could not repro with Standard
> Edition.
>
> Can be reproduced like this:
> On some other server:
> Create a text file called test.foobar in an IIS virtual directory
> Register a mime type of "application/x-foobar" in IIS for this
> extension.
> Use explorer on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
> Register notepad as the application that opens .foobar files
> Use IE on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
> Use http to browse to the test.foobar file - IE will offer to Open, Save
> or Cancel
> Use https to the same file and IE will only offer Save or Cancel
>
> Anyone know why this might be?
>
> Cheers,
> Richard.
>

Re: IE does not offer to open item downloaded via https

Thanks - what managed news group would you suggest, I can't see a suitable
one. There is a whole group for IE5 - what should I use for IE6?

Richard.

"David Wang [Msft]" wrote:

> It looks like a change with IE on Windows Server 2003 and SP1. I would
> inquire with the IE folks.
>
> IIS can only offer browser HINT of what to do, based on MIME Type, but since
> you configured it to be the same, you are really looking at client-side
> behavior change.
>
> --
> //David
> IIS
> http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> //
>
> "Richard Glanville" wrote in message
> news:794D6023-07AF-4629-8172-B6737E612BD4@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm trying to investigate a problem wher IE does not offer to open a item
> > downloaded via https. So far can only reproduce on Windows 2003 Server
> > _Enterprise Edition_ with SP1 installed. Could not repro with Standard
> > Edition.
> >
> > Can be reproduced like this:
> > On some other server:
> > Create a text file called test.foobar in an IIS virtual directory
> > Register a mime type of "application/x-foobar" in IIS for this
> > extension.
> > Use explorer on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
> > Register notepad as the application that opens .foobar files
> > Use IE on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
> > Use http to browse to the test.foobar file - IE will offer to Open, Save
> > or Cancel
> > Use https to the same file and IE will only offer Save or Cancel
> >
> > Anyone know why this might be?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Richard.
> >
>
>
>

Re: IE does not offer to open item downloaded via https

I stay mostly on the server newsgroups so I don't know about clients, but it
looks like microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser is a reasonable
place to start. It has some traffic - though I have no certainty about
people answering questions nor the quality of responses.

The other place I would go is the IE team blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/
since I know people frequent there. However, the problem is that the Blog is
focused on IE7, IE development, and discussion - not necessarily support for
prior IE behaviors.

One client-side behavior that I think may influence the behavior over HTTPS
but not HTTP is the "Do not save encrypted pages to disk" option - if IE
cannot save the encrypted pages to disk, then it obviously cannot:
1. save encrypted downloads (this is a well known change introduced in an IE
patch to IE5.5 and IE6 which people noticed)
2. run a handler to open the resource since it doesn't exist - so can't
offer "Open" as a download option

--
//David
IIS
http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
//

"Richard Glanville" wrote in message
news:8FE1512F-E3BE-41F3-99FB-5C389E90032D@microsoft.com...
> Thanks - what managed news group would you suggest, I can't see a suitable
> one. There is a whole group for IE5 - what should I use for IE6?
>
> Richard.
>
> "David Wang [Msft]" wrote:
>
>> It looks like a change with IE on Windows Server 2003 and SP1. I would
>> inquire with the IE folks.
>>
>> IIS can only offer browser HINT of what to do, based on MIME Type, but
>> since
>> you configured it to be the same, you are really looking at client-side
>> behavior change.
>>
>> --
>> //David
>> IIS
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> //
>>
>> "Richard Glanville" wrote in message
>> news:794D6023-07AF-4629-8172-B6737E612BD4@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to investigate a problem wher IE does not offer to open a
>> > item
>> > downloaded via https. So far can only reproduce on Windows 2003 Server
>> > _Enterprise Edition_ with SP1 installed. Could not repro with Standard
>> > Edition.
>> >
>> > Can be reproduced like this:
>> > On some other server:
>> > Create a text file called test.foobar in an IIS virtual directory
>> > Register a mime type of "application/x-foobar" in IIS for this
>> > extension.
>> > Use explorer on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
>> > Register notepad as the application that opens .foobar files
>> > Use IE on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
>> > Use http to browse to the test.foobar file - IE will offer to Open,
>> > Save
>> > or Cancel
>> > Use https to the same file and IE will only offer Save or Cancel
>> >
>> > Anyone know why this might be?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Richard.
>> >
>>
>>
>>

Re: IE does not offer to open item downloaded via https

Thanks again.
I did notice the "Do not save encrypted pages to disk" option - I found that
I could not get as far as the download prompt when this was selected and the
protocol was https. This setting was turned off when I reproduced the problem
of the missing open button.

I’ll try microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser although it does
not appear to be an MSDN managed group and hence no guarantee of a response.

Cheers,
Richard.


"David Wang [Msft]" wrote:

> I stay mostly on the server newsgroups so I don't know about clients, but it
> looks like microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser is a reasonable
> place to start. It has some traffic - though I have no certainty about
> people answering questions nor the quality of responses.
>
> The other place I would go is the IE team blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/
> since I know people frequent there. However, the problem is that the Blog is
> focused on IE7, IE development, and discussion - not necessarily support for
> prior IE behaviors.
>
> One client-side behavior that I think may influence the behavior over HTTPS
> but not HTTP is the "Do not save encrypted pages to disk" option - if IE
> cannot save the encrypted pages to disk, then it obviously cannot:
> 1. save encrypted downloads (this is a well known change introduced in an IE
> patch to IE5.5 and IE6 which people noticed)
> 2. run a handler to open the resource since it doesn't exist - so can't
> offer "Open" as a download option
>
> --
> //David
> IIS
> http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> //
>
> "Richard Glanville" wrote in message
> news:8FE1512F-E3BE-41F3-99FB-5C389E90032D@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks - what managed news group would you suggest, I can't see a suitable
> > one. There is a whole group for IE5 - what should I use for IE6?
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> > "David Wang [Msft]" wrote:
> >
> >> It looks like a change with IE on Windows Server 2003 and SP1. I would
> >> inquire with the IE folks.
> >>
> >> IIS can only offer browser HINT of what to do, based on MIME Type, but
> >> since
> >> you configured it to be the same, you are really looking at client-side
> >> behavior change.
> >>
> >> --
> >> //David
> >> IIS
> >> http://blogs.msdn.com/David.Wang
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> >> rights.
> >> //
> >>
> >> "Richard Glanville" wrote in message
> >> news:794D6023-07AF-4629-8172-B6737E612BD4@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I'm trying to investigate a problem wher IE does not offer to open a
> >> > item
> >> > downloaded via https. So far can only reproduce on Windows 2003 Server
> >> > _Enterprise Edition_ with SP1 installed. Could not repro with Standard
> >> > Edition.
> >> >
> >> > Can be reproduced like this:
> >> > On some other server:
> >> > Create a text file called test.foobar in an IIS virtual directory
> >> > Register a mime type of "application/x-foobar" in IIS for this
> >> > extension.
> >> > Use explorer on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
> >> > Register notepad as the application that opens .foobar files
> >> > Use IE on the Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition SP1 machine:
> >> > Use http to browse to the test.foobar file - IE will offer to Open,
> >> > Save
> >> > or Cancel
> >> > Use https to the same file and IE will only offer Save or Cancel
> >> >
> >> > Anyone know why this might be?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Richard.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: IE does not offer to open item downloaded via https

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