[OT] Filtering Spam: Challenge-Response Systems. (was [slrn] Hostname?)

"alan connor FAQ" wrote:

Actually, no one asks frequent questions about me.

Except this one dipschitt troll who sometimes calls himself
"Sam"

But I haven't read any of his articles in years, no matter what
alias he is hiding behind at the moment. Nor any responses to
them.

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> X-Ac1: Who is Alan Connor?

Me, myself, and I.

> X-Ac2: Alan Connor is the inventor and implementor of the final ultimate
> X-Ac3: solution to the spam problem, and everyone who dares claim otherwise
> X-Ac4: is a spammer.

Nope. Challenge-Response Systems (which is what he is referring
to) were in use long before I ever touched a computer.

Here's a brief introduction to them:

http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/elrav1/cr.html

They are hated by spammers and trolls because they can't beat
them.

And you don't have to be a geek to use them.

> X-Ac5: That is basically the gist of the messages Alan
> sometimes spews into NANAE.

I don't even know what "NANAE" is.

Must be some troll/spammer thing.

> X-Ac6: Alan Connor is appearently also active on many other
> newsgroups, including comp.mail.misc.

Well. That's where mail filters are most often discussed.

And where you obviously got the information that you then
distorted.

[Although the group is infested with trolls like this weenie, and
I seldom post there any more.]

> X-Ac7: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/kooks/ac/

That website was put up by a spammer/troll who hates
Challenge-Response Systems with a blinding purple passion.

Whom I kept beating in debates on comp.mail.misc, even though he
cheated and used dozens of sockpuppets.

He hates C-R Systems because he can't beat them. I've never even
looked at the site. The opinions of Internet vermin are of no
interest to me, and like this feeb, they have threat ratings
below zero.

That site has been up for several years and hasn't slowed me down
a bit.

Another digital fart by a loser troll.


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> X-Ac9: So what is he raving about?

Until you started using your Usenet spamming utility to follow me
around the Usenet and post this garbage in response to my every
post, I hadn't even brought up the subject of mail filters in
ages.

> X-Ac10: In reality, Alan's system is known as a
> challenge-response or C/R system;

There is no reference to my personal implementation of C-R
Systems on my informational webpage at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~alanconnor/elrav1/cr.html

It just isn't suitable for the average user.

But there are links to other implementations that are.

> X-Ac11: it auto-answers incoming email with a challenge and only lets the email
> X-Ac12: through if it receives a valid response.

No. First the mail is sent through a conventional spam filter
which dumps all of the obvious spam, the vast majority of it.

Very few challenges are sent out.

Oh. And mail with passlisted addresses and/or subjects are taken
right off the top to one's inbox.

> There are several problems with
> X-Ac13: this concept, but Alan doesn't want to hear them. In addition,

Well. Many ISPs (like Earthlink) and MSPs (mail service
providers) use them. Why don't you discuss it with them?

> X-Ac14: Alan's system isn't even a very good implementation of
> the C/R concept,

It's silently dumped tens of thousands of harassing mails
from you in the last few years.

Along with tons of spam.

Without ever preventing anyone who isn't a spammer or troll from
easily contacting me.

I'd call that working pretty good.

It's now on a mailbox that you don't have the address to.



(No, alanconnor@earthlink.net is my Usenet address. That's not
a conventional C-R System in use there.)

> X-Ac15: as it fails to address the chicken-egg problem that is inherent to C/R:

There is no such thing.

> X-Ac16: What if your C/R system sends a challenge to an email address that is
> X-Ac17: also protected by a C/R system? Because of this, Alan and Timo Salmi,
> X-Ac18: another C/R advocate, are unable to email eachother.

That's incredibly stupid. We exchange mails all the time.

> So basically Alan's X-Ac19: system is a broken implementation
> of a flawed concept.

Would this be the system that you have been trying to bust for
years?

With no success?

Yep. It sure would.



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