authentication
am 21.09.2006 23:45:59 von not_here.5.species8350
I have noiticed when using trhe web that sometimes a series of boxes
appear with numbers in them.
I am asked to type these numbers into boxes as an authentication.
How does this work??
Thanks
A
Re: authentication
am 22.09.2006 01:03:26 von Robert Mabee
not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net wrote:
> I have noiticed when using trhe web that sometimes a series of boxes
> appear with numbers in them.
>
> I am asked to type these numbers into boxes as an authentication.
>
> How does this work??
That interaction "proves" that a human is reading the page rather than
a computer program such as a spider indexing the contents, because the
number you see is sent as a picture which the program can not interpret,
or could only interpret with high effort and significant error.
I might use this method to keep an advertiser-supported service from
being pirated by another site that would access my service from a
program and surround my results into their advertising.
Re: authentication
am 22.09.2006 09:59:26 von lahippel
Robert Mabee wrote:
> not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net wrote:
>> I have noiticed when using trhe web that sometimes a series of boxes
>> appear with numbers in them.
>>
>> I am asked to type these numbers into boxes as an authentication.
>>
>> How does this work??
>
> That interaction "proves" that a human is reading the page rather than
> a computer program such as a spider indexing the contents, because the
> number you see is sent as a picture which the program can not interpret,
> or could only interpret with high effort and significant error.
A.k.a. CAPTCHA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha
> I might use this method to keep an advertiser-supported service from
> being pirated by another site that would access my service from a
> program and surround my results into their advertising.
There are ways to work around it. The most ingenious proposition is to
set up a free pr0n site that shows the captchas a robot has bumped into
to the clients, and then relays the responses back. The users don't
necessarily know that the optical riddle has nothing to do with getting
access to bare boobies.
-- Lassi
Re: authentication
am 22.09.2006 12:44:22 von Mak
Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
> There are ways to work around it. The most ingenious proposition is to
> set up a free pr0n site that shows the captchas a robot has bumped into
> to the clients, and then relays the responses back. The users don't
> necessarily know that the optical riddle has nothing to do with getting
> access to bare boobies.
>
> -- Lassi
i don't get it,
who are the clients?
and which site are the users visiting.(pr0n or legit)
and who gets what out of it?
curious,
M
Re: authentication
am 22.09.2006 13:45:24 von lahippel
mak wrote:
> Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
>
>> There are ways to work around it. The most ingenious proposition is to
>> set up a free pr0n site that shows the captchas a robot has bumped
>> into to the clients, and then relays the responses back. The users
>> don't necessarily know that the optical riddle has nothing to do with
>> getting access to bare boobies.
>>
>> -- Lassi
>
> i don't get it,
> who are the clients?
> and which site are the users visiting.(pr0n or legit)
>
> and who gets what out of it?
>
> curious,
> M
1. A robot wants access to a site that uses a captcha to stop robots
2. A user wants to access free XXX
3. The robot forwards the captcha to the client of the XXX site
4. The client replies using human intelligence
5. The client gets access to free XXX
6. The robot forwards the reply to the site that set the captcha
7. The robot gets access to the protected site.
If the XXX site is large enough, it will always have a human client to
consult, whenever the robot needs it.
-- Lassi
Re: authentication
am 22.09.2006 18:17:35 von unruh
"not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net" writes:
>I have noiticed when using trhe web that sometimes a series of boxes
>appear with numbers in them.
The numbers are such that a machine would have a very hard time reading
them, but people can. This prevents automated logins.
>I am asked to type these numbers into boxes as an authentication.
>How does this work??
You read the numbers and type them into boxes.
Re: authentication
am 23.09.2006 01:04:06 von Barry Margolin
In article ,
Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
> mak wrote:
> > Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
> >
> >> There are ways to work around it. The most ingenious proposition is to
> >> set up a free pr0n site that shows the captchas a robot has bumped
> >> into to the clients, and then relays the responses back. The users
> >> don't necessarily know that the optical riddle has nothing to do with
> >> getting access to bare boobies.
> >>
> >> -- Lassi
> >
> > i don't get it,
> > who are the clients?
> > and which site are the users visiting.(pr0n or legit)
> >
> > and who gets what out of it?
> >
> > curious,
> > M
>
> 1. A robot wants access to a site that uses a captcha to stop robots
> 2. A user wants to access free XXX
> 3. The robot forwards the captcha to the client of the XXX site
> 4. The client replies using human intelligence
> 5. The client gets access to free XXX
> 6. The robot forwards the reply to the site that set the captcha
> 7. The robot gets access to the protected site.
>
> If the XXX site is large enough, it will always have a human client to
> consult, whenever the robot needs it.
Hmm, I wonder if something like this would work for spam filters, which
have a hard time reading GIF spam. Could the spam-filter vendors set up
a porn site, and when they need to determine whether a GIF is spam or
someone sending a Dilbert to a friend, they display it as the porn
site's captcha?
--
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
Re: authentication
am 25.09.2006 08:34:31 von Mak
Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
> mak wrote:
>> Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
>>
>>> There are ways to work around it. The most ingenious proposition is
>>> to set up a free pr0n site that shows the captchas a robot has bumped
>>> into to the clients, and then relays the responses back. The users
>>> don't necessarily know that the optical riddle has nothing to do with
>>> getting access to bare boobies.
>>>
>>> -- Lassi
>>
>> i don't get it,
>> who are the clients?
>> and which site are the users visiting.(pr0n or legit)
>>
>> and who gets what out of it?
>>
>> curious,
>> M
>
> 1. A robot wants access to a site that uses a captcha to stop robots
> 2. A user wants to access free XXX
> 3. The robot forwards the captcha to the client of the XXX site
> 4. The client replies using human intelligence
> 5. The client gets access to free XXX
> 6. The robot forwards the reply to the site that set the captcha
> 7. The robot gets access to the protected site.
>
> If the XXX site is large enough, it will always have a human client to
> consult, whenever the robot needs it.
>
> -- Lassi
jeesus, genius and sick at the same time.
Re: authentication
am 25.09.2006 09:16:34 von lahippel
mak wrote:
> Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
>> mak wrote:
>>> Lassi Hippeläinen wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are ways to work around it. The most ingenious proposition is
>>>> to set up a free pr0n site that shows the captchas a robot has
>>>> bumped into to the clients, and then relays the responses back. The
>>>> users don't necessarily know that the optical riddle has nothing to
>>>> do with getting access to bare boobies.
>>>>
>>>> -- Lassi
>>>
>>> i don't get it,
>>> who are the clients?
>>> and which site are the users visiting.(pr0n or legit)
>>>
>>> and who gets what out of it?
>>>
>>> curious,
>>> M
>>
>> 1. A robot wants access to a site that uses a captcha to stop robots
>> 2. A user wants to access free XXX
>> 3. The robot forwards the captcha to the client of the XXX site
>> 4. The client replies using human intelligence
>> 5. The client gets access to free XXX
>> 6. The robot forwards the reply to the site that set the captcha
>> 7. The robot gets access to the protected site.
>>
>> If the XXX site is large enough, it will always have a human client to
>> consult, whenever the robot needs it.
>>
>> -- Lassi
> jeesus, genius and sick at the same time.
It is the ultimate in social engineering: mindless robots outsource
human intelligence from wankers...
-- Lassi