Nebelhorn Trophy
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> One thing that is not happening with our coverage of Nebelhorn
> Trophy, but going on at one at one figure skating discussion board is
> that someone was logged on from work. That user had to excuse theirself
> becuase they had to go to a meeting.
> However, from what I understand, this person, in the USA, was
> logged on to the board all morning, without the boss knowing it. In
You sound like a couple of folks I argue with on Figure Skating
Universe who apparently come in from work and do not
understand that their connections to there will show up in the
firewall logs.
One guy on there thinks that turning the screen away will hide
his activities, and he does not believe me when I tell him his
activities can be logged.
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> Charles Newman wrote:
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> > > One thing that is not happening with our coverage of Nebelhorn
> > > Trophy, but going on at one at one figure skating discussion board is
> > > that someone was logged on from work. That user had to excuse
theirself
> > > becuase they had to go to a meeting.
> > > However, from what I understand, this person, in the USA, was
> > > logged on to the board all morning, without the boss knowing it. In
> >
> > You sound like a couple of folks I argue with on Figure Skating
> > Universe who apparently come in from work and do not
> > understand that their connections to there will show up in the
> > firewall logs.
> >
> > One guy on there thinks that turning the screen away will hide
> > his activities, and he does not believe me when I tell him his
> > activities can be logged.
>
>
> One thing about our coverage of figure skating events, is that while
> broadcasting, I am also on several figure skating chat rooms and
> disussion boards as well, to be able to interact with listeners.
> One guy has said that he uses Norton QuickClean at his current job
> (because he is not supposed to be on anything like GoldenSkate or FSU),
> after he has followed a competition from work, and it leaves nothing
> they could ever use against him. He purchased and installed QuickClean
> on his work PC, and he uses it regularly.
> So you see, Charles, there ARE ways to cover your tracks. This guy
> also uses encrypted tunnels as well. Using an encyrpted tunnel, and
> then cleaning up the box with QuickClean, means his boss will never be
> able to get anything that could be used to fire him. You, More,
> Leythos, and everyone else that has argued with me do not see to
> realise that there are ways to hide your tracks, contrary to popular
> opinion. When IT does a forensic examination of the box after hours,
> they find nothing, becuase QuickClean has erased the tracks of what he
> has done. QuickClean, Evidence Eliminator, KillDisk, and many other
> programs like it will erase all tracks of what you did.
>
You have probably never heard of programs like WinControl, have you?
Such software could keep QuickClean from running. Windows, by itself
cannot be set up with any whitelist, but programs like WinControl can
implement it. I would imagine that is what Gottshack probably uses
for his "whitelist" of executable programs. Such a list can only be
created and implemented with third party products, such as
WinControl, or bProtected. Windows does not have whitelisting
capability built in, but a third party program, such as WinControl
can do that. WinControl can also lock down the proxy settings
so users cannot change settings away from the proxy server.
That would stop someone from using Tor, right there, since
you have to change proxy settings in IE to use it. Netscape and
Firefox are another kettle-o-fish altogether, since you cannot lock
down the proxy settings with either of those programs.
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chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:
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> One thing that is not happening with our coverage of Nebelhorn
> Trophy, but going on at one at one figure skating discussion board is
> that someone was logged on from work. That user had to excuse theirself
> becuase they had to go to a meeting.
> However, from what I understand, this person, in the USA, was
> logged on to the board all morning, without the boss knowing it. In
> private messages with this person, she has a T-1 in her home, and she
> connects to that, from her worjkplace, and then to the board, from
> there. So if you put a T-1 in your home (if you can afford the price)
> and then connect to there first, your network admins will NEVER KNOW
> what you are up to.
> Some serious figure skating fanatics may log onto several souces of
> coverage at once. This person was logged onto our broadcast, as well as
> to two figure skating discussion boards at the same time. Becuase she
> had an encrypted connection to a T-1 line in her home, there is no
> POSSIBLE way her boss will ever know she was logged onto my broadcast,
> as well as two figure skating disusccion boards all morning. For amins
> on here, if this person is on your shop, you will never know she was
> logged onto a figure skating discussion board all morning, becuase all
> you will see is an encrypted connection to the T-1 line in her home.
> Becuase its a T-1, and not a residential service, such as DSL or cable,
> it would not appear to be a connection to someones home computer.
> I am surprised that you could get a T-1 connection in a residence.
> I always thought only businesses could get a T-1 line.
>
man,
would you quit advertising your figure skating shows - this has been discussed at length allready.
peace,
mak