Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

I have installed the last free version of Sygate 5.6.2808 on my portable
running Win 98 SE (Wi-fi connection).

Once installed, the machine loses connectivity to the outside world. I
have tried every 'enable' option on the interface. No avail.

Even disabling Sygate does not help. My brower, my email client, ...
cannot see the outside world.

Connectivity returns on uninstall.

(To its credit, Sygate uninstall is clean, leaves no side effects
(unlike Zone Alarm, Norton...) )

Any suggestions what to try? e.g. Are there known issues of
incompatibility between Sygate and AV programs?

--
wit's end

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

occam wrote:
> I have installed the last free version of Sygate 5.6.2808 on my
> portable running Win 98 SE (Wi-fi connection).
>
> Once installed, the machine loses connectivity to the outside world. I
> have tried every 'enable' option on the interface. No avail.
>
> Even disabling Sygate does not help. My brower, my email client, ...
> cannot see the outside world.
>
> Connectivity returns on uninstall.

So you already have your solution. Make sure you don't have file and
printer sharing installed, and you don't need a personal firewall
anyway.

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

hi occam
i tried Segate Personal firewall 5.5 pro for long time
here is my openion:
1- if you are using, then your network (lan) will become very very very
slow untill Admin unplug your port from the switch.
2- sometimes my computer hangup and if you open your task manager you
will find that there is a process called ( (...) don't remember ) well,
it takes about 99% of processor time and you can't make 'end process,
or end task' because simply "Access denied".
by the way i'm sure this process is one of Sygate firewall processes,
try to trace ir in the startup files "msconfig".
3- finally, if you intend to send a help message to Symantec,
Congratulation there is no reply since they nolonger support "sygate
firewall".

My openion
Zone Alarm pro is the Best
search google for "firewall reviews"

there is some guy called Sapastian"if i spelt his name correctly", he
will say ZoneAlarm is a toy not a firewall, well, tell him what is
better? and he will shut up.
bye

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

By the way
new version of ZoneAlarm, don't support 98, 98SE, or me
just try to use XP+sp2 itis better
see ya,
luckyboy

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

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Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

occam wrote:
>
> (To its credit, Sygate uninstall is clean, leaves no side effects
> (unlike Zone Alarm, Norton...) )

That is why Symantec discontinued Sygate.

(http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1893740,00.asp?kc=ewnw s112905dtx1k0000599)

Just too damned easy to uninstall, and we can't have that.

Ron ;)

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

On 10/2/2006 3:57:01 PM, occam wrote:
>I have installed the last free version of Sygate 5.6.2808 on my portable
>running Win 98 SE (Wi-fi connection).
>
>Once installed, the machine loses connectivity to the outside world. I
>have tried every 'enable' option on the interface. No avail.
>
>Even disabling Sygate does not help. My brower, my email client, ...
>cannot see the outside world.
>
>Connectivity returns on uninstall.
>
>(To its credit, Sygate uninstall is clean, leaves no side effects
>(unlike Zone Alarm, Norton...) )
>
>Any suggestions what to try? e.g. Are there known issues of
>incompatibility between Sygate and AV programs?
>

See if you can find the 5.5 version (someone posted a link earlier). I don't
think Symantec(sp?) really had a chance to work all of the kinks out of 5.6.

They kept saying that the fixes; enhancements would be in the next release,
and AFAIK, there was no next release.

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Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Casey wrote:
> In article <45217d29@news.vo.lu>, occam@razor.dot.com says...
>> I have installed the last free version of Sygate 5.6.2808 on my portable
>> running Win 98 SE (Wi-fi connection).
>>
>> Once installed, the machine loses connectivity to the outside world. I
>> have tried every 'enable' option on the interface. No avail.
>>
>> Even disabling Sygate does not help. My brower, my email client, ...
>> cannot see the outside world.
>>
>> Connectivity returns on uninstall.
>>
>> (To its credit, Sygate uninstall is clean, leaves no side effects
>> (unlike Zone Alarm, Norton...) )
>>
>> Any suggestions what to try? e.g. Are there known issues of
>> incompatibility between Sygate and AV programs?
>>
>>
> I run v5.5 but 5.6 may be the same
> Look on main page under security
> therre are three options; block all normal allow all
> see where its set
> Casey

Casey

I tried 'normal', I tried 'allow all' AND I tried disabling (stopping)
Sygate altogether. I suspect something more fundamental - e.g. conflict
with Kaspersky?

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> occam wrote:
>> I have installed the last free version of Sygate 5.6.2808 on my
>> portable running Win 98 SE (Wi-fi connection).
>>
>> Once installed, the machine loses connectivity to the outside world. I
>> have tried every 'enable' option on the interface. No avail.
>>
>> Even disabling Sygate does not help. My brower, my email client, ...
>> cannot see the outside world.
>>
>> Connectivity returns on uninstall.
>
> So you already have your solution. Make sure you don't have file and
> printer sharing installed, and you don't need a personal firewall
> anyway.
>
> cu
> 59cobalt

59cobalt

I have 'printer sharing' disabled, but I need file sharing, as this is
my laptop, which connects with 'mother-ship' and exchanges files / updates.

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Ron Lopshire wrote:
> occam wrote:
>>
>> (To its credit, Sygate uninstall is clean, leaves no side effects
>> (unlike Zone Alarm, Norton...) )
>
> That is why Symantec discontinued Sygate.
>
> (http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1893740,00.asp?kc=ewnw s112905dtx1k0000599)
>
>
> Just too damned easy to uninstall, and we can't have that.
>
> Ron ;)

And that is why I installed it. Anything that's not good enough for
Symantec is OK by me (and vice versa) ;-)

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Casey wrote:
> In article , me@cornerbar_intoxicated.com says...
>> On 10/2/2006 3:57:01 PM, occam wrote:
>>> I have installed the last free version of Sygate 5.6.2808 on my portable
>>> running Win 98 SE (Wi-fi connection).
>>>
>>> Once installed, the machine loses connectivity to the outside world. I
>>> have tried every 'enable' option on the interface. No avail.
>>>
>>> Even disabling Sygate does not help. My brower, my email client, ...
>>> cannot see the outside world.
>>>
>>> Connectivity returns on uninstall.
>>>
>>> (To its credit, Sygate uninstall is clean, leaves no side effects
>>> (unlike Zone Alarm, Norton...) )
>>>
>>> Any suggestions what to try? e.g. Are there known issues of
>>> incompatibility between Sygate and AV programs?
>>>
>> See if you can find the 5.5 version (someone posted a link earlier). I don't
>> think Symantec(sp?) really had a chance to work all of the kinks out of 5.6.
>>
>> They kept saying that the fixes; enhancements would be in the next release,
>> and AFAIK, there was no next release.
>>
> Download free Sygate v5.5 b 2710
>
> http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=sygate
>
> and also on
>
> http://chris.mysteryfcm.co.uk/abs%20for%20acf/spf2710.exe
>
>
>

Thanks for the links. I installed v.5.5 2710 and ... same reaction.
Merde alors! (excuse my French). I am slowly resigning to adopting
59cobalt's solution.

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

occam wrote:
> I have 'printer sharing' disabled, but I need file sharing, as this is
> my laptop, which connects with 'mother-ship' and exchanges files / updates.

If you have more than one computer in the network, better have a
filtering device between your LAN and the Internet.

Yours,
VB.
--
Viel schlimmer als die Implementation von PHP ist jedoch das Design.

Rudolf Polzer in de.comp.security.misc

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

occam wrote:
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>> occam wrote:
>>> I have installed the last free version of Sygate 5.6.2808 on my
>>> portable running Win 98 SE (Wi-fi connection).
>>>
>>> Once installed, the machine loses connectivity to the outside world. I
>>> have tried every 'enable' option on the interface. No avail.
>>>
>>> Even disabling Sygate does not help. My brower, my email client, ...
>>> cannot see the outside world.
>>>
>>> Connectivity returns on uninstall.
>>
>> So you already have your solution. Make sure you don't have file and
>> printer sharing installed, and you don't need a personal firewall
>> anyway.
>
> I have 'printer sharing' disabled, but I need file sharing, as this is
> my laptop, which connects with 'mother-ship' and exchanges files /
> updates.

Please be more verbose. What and where is this "mothership", and when do
you need the ability to exchange files with it?

And please do not e-mail your reply in addition to posting it. I am
reading this group.

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Volker Birk wrote:
> occam wrote:
>> I have 'printer sharing' disabled, but I need file sharing, as this
>> is my laptop, which connects with 'mother-ship' and exchanges files /
>> updates.
>
> If you have more than one computer in the network, better have a
> filtering device between your LAN and the Internet.

He said he had a "portable", so this is probably not an option.

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>
>
>
> And please do not e-mail your reply in addition to posting it. I am
> reading this group.

If you found yourself receiving e-mails in your personal account, it's
because some of your earlier headers were directed to you, even when
"replying to the newsgroup" was selected.

http://i12.tinypic.com/2mwt83k.jpg

See ya!

Notan

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> Volker Birk wrote:
> > occam wrote:
> >> I have 'printer sharing' disabled, but I need file sharing, as this
> >> is my laptop, which connects with 'mother-ship' and exchanges files /
> >> updates.
> > If you have more than one computer in the network, better have a
> > filtering device between your LAN and the Internet.
> He said he had a "portable", so this is probably not an option.

I think, it is an option. And, when his portable is not in the home
network, he can stop file sharing.

Yours,
VB.
--
Viel schlimmer als die Implementation von PHP ist jedoch das Design.

Rudolf Polzer in de.comp.security.misc

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Notan wrote:
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>> And please do not e-mail your reply in addition to posting it. I am
>> reading this group.
>
> If you found yourself receiving e-mails in your personal account, it's
> because some of your earlier headers were directed to you, even when
> "replying to the newsgroup" was selected.

Next time check MID <4odg6rFdtgeoU1@individual.net> before trying to be
a smartass. I did not set a followup to poster in that posting, so the
person who replied to me apparently hit "reply-all" instead of "reply"
in his Thunderbird, causing his answer to be posted to the group as well
as being e-mailed to me.

> http://i12.tinypic.com/2mwt83k.jpg

In <4ot0fkFg5eskU1@individual.net> I had explicitly set (and announced)
a followup to poster.

Please learn how Usenet works before trying to lecture people on that
matter.

F'up2p set.

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>
> Notan wrote:
> > Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> >> And please do not e-mail your reply in addition to posting it. I am
> >> reading this group.
> >
> > If you found yourself receiving e-mails in your personal account, it's
> > because some of your earlier headers were directed to you, even when
> > "replying to the newsgroup" was selected.
>
> Next time check MID <4odg6rFdtgeoU1@individual.net> before trying to be
> a smartass. I did not set a followup to poster in that posting, so the
> person who replied to me apparently hit "reply-all" instead of "reply"
> in his Thunderbird, causing his answer to be posted to the group as well
> as being e-mailed to me.
>
> > http://i12.tinypic.com/2mwt83k.jpg
>
> In <4ot0fkFg5eskU1@individual.net> I had explicitly set (and announced)
> a followup to poster.
>
> Please learn how Usenet works before trying to lecture people on that
> matter.

While my earlier statement, regarding Germans and manners, still holds,
it apparently had nothing to do with you.

You're an asshole, all on your own.

Notan

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Notan wrote:
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>> Notan wrote:
>>> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>>>> And please do not e-mail your reply in addition to posting it. I am
>>>> reading this group.
>>>
>>> If you found yourself receiving e-mails in your personal account,
>>> it's because some of your earlier headers were directed to you, even
>>> when "replying to the newsgroup" was selected.
>>
>> Next time check MID <4odg6rFdtgeoU1@individual.net> before trying to
>> be a smartass. I did not set a followup to poster in that posting, so
>> the person who replied to me apparently hit "reply-all" instead of
>> "reply" in his Thunderbird, causing his answer to be posted to the
>> group as well as being e-mailed to me.
>>
>>> http://i12.tinypic.com/2mwt83k.jpg
>>
>> In <4ot0fkFg5eskU1@individual.net> I had explicitly set (and
>> announced) a followup to poster.
>>
>> Please learn how Usenet works before trying to lecture people on that
>> matter.
>
> While my earlier statement, regarding Germans and manners, still
> holds, it apparently had nothing to do with you.
>
> You're an asshole, all on your own.

Look buster, it's not my fault that you made an ass of yourself, because
your attempt on being a smartass backfired.

Oh, well. You're just another proof that any address-munging idiot can
safely be killfiled right away.

*plonk*

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> occam wrote:
>> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>>> occam wrote:
>>>> I have installed the last free version of Sygate 5.6.2808 on my
>>>> portable running Win 98 SE (Wi-fi connection).
>>>>
>>>> Once installed, the machine loses connectivity to the outside
>>>> world. I have tried every 'enable' option on the interface. No
>>>> avail.
>>>>
>>>> Even disabling Sygate does not help. My brower, my email client,
>>>> ... cannot see the outside world.
>>>>
>>>> Connectivity returns on uninstall.
>>>
>>> So you already have your solution. Make sure you don't have file
>>> and
>>> printer sharing installed, and you don't need a personal firewall
>>> anyway.
>>
>> I have 'printer sharing' disabled, but I need file sharing, as this
>> is my laptop, which connects with 'mother-ship' and exchanges files
>> /
>> updates.

59cobalt wrote:

> Please be more verbose. What and where is this "mothership", and
> when
> do you need the ability to exchange files with it?
>

At home. on the LAN, I have to connect to my desktop to either
download things I need to take with me, or to upload files I have
created on the portable on my travels. This requires me to enable
shared access to certain Folders on my portable. (I guess I can
disable this every time I disconnect from the LAN)

> And please do not e-mail your reply in addition to posting it. I am
> reading this group.

Sorry. I must have pressed 'Reply-all' instead of 'Reply'

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

occam wrote:
> 59cobalt wrote:
>> Please be more verbose. What and where is this "mothership", and when
>> do you need the ability to exchange files with it?
>
> At home. on the LAN, I have to connect to my desktop to either
> download things I need to take with me, or to upload files I have
> created on the portable on my travels. This requires me to enable
> shared access to certain Folders on my portable. (I guess I can
> disable this every time I disconnect from the LAN)

To make sure I understood you correctly: you have a desktop computer at
home and a portable computer you take with you. When being someplace
outside your home you want to establish a connection from your portable
to your desktop computer to up- or download files. Is that correct?

Is your desktop computer directly connected to the Internet, or is it
behind a router? What operating system is running on it? Would using SSH
be an option for file access? There are very nice GUI-SSH-clients for
Windows.

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

occam wrote:
>
>
>
> Sorry. I must have pressed 'Reply-all' instead of 'Reply'

Don't be sorry. His post was set up in such a way that "Reply to newsgroup"
(or something similar) was sent to his e-mail address.

Notan

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> occam wrote:
>> 59cobalt wrote:
>>> Please be more verbose. What and where is this "mothership", and when
>>> do you need the ability to exchange files with it?
>> At home. on the LAN, I have to connect to my desktop to either
>> download things I need to take with me, or to upload files I have
>> created on the portable on my travels. This requires me to enable
>> shared access to certain Folders on my portable. (I guess I can
>> disable this every time I disconnect from the LAN)
>
> To make sure I understood you correctly: you have a desktop computer at
> home and a portable computer you take with you. When being someplace
> outside your home you want to establish a connection from your portable
> to your desktop computer to up- or download files. Is that correct?

I synchronise mainly when I am at base (not remotely).
>
> Is your desktop computer directly connected to the Internet, or is it
> behind a router? What operating system is running on it? Would using SSH
> be an option for file access? There are very nice GUI-SSH-clients for
> Windows.
>
Desktop (XP Pro) is behind a (wi-fi) router, the built in firewall
functions of which I do *not* trust. What is SHH? My main concern is
portable safety when away from base, while browsing / emailing.

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

occam wrote:
>
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> > occam wrote:
> >> 59cobalt wrote:
> >>> Please be more verbose. What and where is this "mothership", and when
> >>> do you need the ability to exchange files with it?
> >> At home. on the LAN, I have to connect to my desktop to either
> >> download things I need to take with me, or to upload files I have
> >> created on the portable on my travels. This requires me to enable
> >> shared access to certain Folders on my portable. (I guess I can
> >> disable this every time I disconnect from the LAN)
> >
> > To make sure I understood you correctly: you have a desktop computer at
> > home and a portable computer you take with you. When being someplace
> > outside your home you want to establish a connection from your portable
> > to your desktop computer to up- or download files. Is that correct?
>
> I synchronise mainly when I am at base (not remotely).
> >
> > Is your desktop computer directly connected to the Internet, or is it
> > behind a router? What operating system is running on it? Would using SSH
> > be an option for file access? There are very nice GUI-SSH-clients for
> > Windows.
> >
> Desktop (XP Pro) is behind a (wi-fi) router, the built in firewall
> functions of which I do *not* trust. What is SHH? My main concern is
> portable safety when away from base, while browsing / emailing.

http://www.employees.org/~satch/ssh/faq/ssh-faq.html

Notan

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

occam wrote:
> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>> occam wrote:
>>> 59cobalt wrote:
>>>> Please be more verbose. What and where is this "mothership", and
>>>> when do you need the ability to exchange files with it?
>>>
>>> At home. on the LAN, I have to connect to my desktop to either
>>> download things I need to take with me, or to upload files I have
>>> created on the portable on my travels. This requires me to enable
>>> shared access to certain Folders on my portable. (I guess I can
>>> disable this every time I disconnect from the LAN)
>>
>> To make sure I understood you correctly: you have a desktop computer
>> at home and a portable computer you take with you. When being
>> someplace outside your home you want to establish a connection from
>> your portable to your desktop computer to up- or download files. Is
>> that correct?
>
> I synchronise mainly when I am at base (not remotely).

Mainly or always? Please be precise when describing the situation. It
helps with finding a solution for your problem.

>> Is your desktop computer directly connected to the Internet, or is it
>> behind a router? What operating system is running on it? Would using
>> SSH be an option for file access? There are very nice GUI-SSH-clients
>> for Windows.
>
> Desktop (XP Pro) is behind a (wi-fi) router, the built in firewall
> functions of which I do *not* trust.

So you are never connecting to your home machine from remote, correct?

> What is SHH?

SSH (Secure Shell [1]) is a protocol for secure remote (shell-)access to
a computer, that can also be used for e.g. transferring files. However,
since you are not making remote connections it's probably not what you
want.

> My main concern is portable safety when away from base, while browsing
> / emailing.

In that case the free version of Kerio [2] may be an option for you. I
haven't had a look at it after it was taken over by Sunbelt, but at the
time it was one of the least painful personal firewalls (especially
since you only need its packet filter), and Sunbelt probably hasn't
changed that much.

Aside from that: why don't you trust the firewall functions of your
router? And why do you use a router you don't trust instead of one you
trust?

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ssh
[2] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Kerio.cfm

cu
59cobalt
--
"If a software developer ever believes a rootkit is a necessary part of
their architecture they should go back and re-architect their solution."
--Mark Russinovich

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
> occam wrote:
>> Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>>> occam wrote:
>>>> 59cobalt wrote:
>>>>> Please be more verbose. What and where is this "mothership", and
>>>>> when do you need the ability to exchange files with it?
>>>> At home. on the LAN, I have to connect to my desktop to either
>>>> download things I need to take with me, or to upload files I have
>>>> created on the portable on my travels. This requires me to enable
>>>> shared access to certain Folders on my portable. (I guess I can
>>>> disable this every time I disconnect from the LAN)
>>> To make sure I understood you correctly: you have a desktop computer
>>> at home and a portable computer you take with you. When being
>>> someplace outside your home you want to establish a connection from
>>> your portable to your desktop computer to up- or download files. Is
>>> that correct?
>> I synchronise mainly when I am at base (not remotely).
>
> Mainly or always? Please be precise when describing the situation. It
> helps with finding a solution for your problem.
>
>>> Is your desktop computer directly connected to the Internet, or is it
>>> behind a router? What operating system is running on it? Would using
>>> SSH be an option for file access? There are very nice GUI-SSH-clients
>>> for Windows.
>> Desktop (XP Pro) is behind a (wi-fi) router, the built in firewall
>> functions of which I do *not* trust.
>
> So you are never connecting to your home machine from remote, correct?
>
>> What is SHH?
>
> SSH (Secure Shell [1]) is a protocol for secure remote (shell-)access to
> a computer, that can also be used for e.g. transferring files. However,
> since you are not making remote connections it's probably not what you
> want.
>
>> My main concern is portable safety when away from base, while browsing
>> / emailing.
>
> In that case the free version of Kerio [2] may be an option for you. I
> haven't had a look at it after it was taken over by Sunbelt, but at the
> time it was one of the least painful personal firewalls (especially
> since you only need its packet filter), and Sunbelt probably hasn't
> changed that much.


I see the latest Kerio (v4) does not run on Win98. But oldversion.com
should fix that. Thanks for the pointer.
>
> Aside from that: why don't you trust the firewall functions of your
> router? And why do you use a router you don't trust instead of one you
> trust?
Its made in Belgium, that is why :-). (I bought it for its wi-fi
facility, not for its firewall features.)

>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ssh
> [2] http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Kerio.cfm
>
> cu
> 59cobalt

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

On 9 Oct 2006 12:39:34 GMT, Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers
wrote:

>Notan wrote:
>> If you found yourself receiving e-mails in your personal account, it's
>> because some of your earlier headers were directed to you, even when
>> "replying to the newsgroup" was selected.
>> http://i12.tinypic.com/2mwt83k.jpg

>Next time check MID <4odg6rFdtgeoU1@individual.net> before trying to be
>a smartass. I did not set a followup to poster in that posting, so the
>person who replied to me apparently hit "reply-all" instead of "reply"
>in his Thunderbird, causing his answer to be posted to the group as well
>as being e-mailed to me.


>In <4ot0fkFg5eskU1@individual.net> I had explicitly set (and announced)
>a followup to poster.
>Please learn how Usenet works before trying to lecture people on that
>matter.

It might be my old program, but when I select to post a follow-up
message to any of your messages I get a warning that 'poster has
requested that replies be sent as e-mail messages'.

Geo

Re: Sygate 5.6.2808 vs Win98 SE

"GEO" wrote:
> On 9 Oct 2006 12:39:34 GMT, Ansgar -59cobalt- Wiechers wrote:
>> Notan wrote:
>>> If you found yourself receiving e-mails in your personal account,
>>> it's because some of your earlier headers were directed to you, even
>>> when "replying to the newsgroup" was selected.
>>> http://i12.tinypic.com/2mwt83k.jpg
>>
>> Next time check MID <4odg6rFdtgeoU1@individual.net> before trying to
>> be a smartass. I did not set a followup to poster in that posting, so
>> the person who replied to me apparently hit "reply-all" instead of
>> "reply" in his Thunderbird, causing his answer to be posted to the
>> group as well as being e-mailed to me.
>>
>> In <4ot0fkFg5eskU1@individual.net> I had explicitly set (and
>> announced) a followup to poster.
>> Please learn how Usenet works before trying to lecture people on that
>> matter.
>
> It might be my old program, but when I select to post a follow-up
> message to any of your messages I get a warning that 'poster has
> requested that replies be sent as e-mail messages'.

No, it's not your Forte Agent. I had set "Followup-To: poster" (f'up2p)
in MID <4ot0fkFg5eskU1@individual.net> as well as in the message you
just replied to. This header tells your newsreader that I requested that
a reply should be mailed to me rather than posted to the group (and I
usually set it when I believe that any further discussion of a topic
should be done in private rather than in public). However, any good
newsreader will allow you to choose whether you want to accept or ignore
this request.

In MID <4odg6rFdtgeoU1@individual.net> I had not set a Followup-To,
though. occam had just mistakenly hit "reply-all" instead of "reply", so
his message got posted to the group as well as mailed to me.

cu
59cobalt
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