New 8K Feed

Thanks to the new 8K bitrate option on Live 365, I can throttle the
bit rate down to 8 kilobits, when I do my talk show. This also means
that at that super-low bit rate, it would not stand out in any logs, if
someone were to listen to my show from work. In fact, I had a caller to
my talk show today from Memphis, who is able to listen from work,
without the admins detecting it, becuase even if you listened to the
entire 2 hour program, the total bandwidth usage would only be a few
megabytes a day. something that would hardly stick out. A super low
bandwidth stream of only 8K is not likely to be noticed by any network
admins, becuase a lot of other stuff uses a lot more bandwidth, than an
8K feed of my talk show.
Simply put, when I throttle the bandwidth down to 8K, it will
almost certainly not be noticed by any network admins, even if someone
listens to the entire 2 hour program.

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chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks to the new 8K bitrate option on Live 365, I can throttle the
> bit rate down to 8 kilobits, when I do my talk show. This also means
> that at that super-low bit rate, it would not stand out in any logs, if
> someone were to listen to my show from work. In fact, I had a caller to
> my talk show today from Memphis, who is able to listen from work,
> without the admins detecting it, becuase even if you listened to the
> entire 2 hour program, the total bandwidth usage would only be a few
> megabytes a day. something that would hardly stick out. A super low
> bandwidth stream of only 8K is not likely to be noticed by any network
> admins, becuase a lot of other stuff uses a lot more bandwidth, than an
> 8K feed of my talk show.
> Simply put, when I throttle the bandwidth down to 8K, it will
> almost certainly not be noticed by any network admins, even if someone
> listens to the entire 2 hour program.
>

cool,
I am glad you are telling us about your figure skating show again,
it's been a while...

M

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mak wrote:
> chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to the new 8K bitrate option on Live 365, I can throttle the
> > bit rate down to 8 kilobits, when I do my talk show. This also means
> > that at that super-low bit rate, it would not stand out in any logs, if
> > someone were to listen to my show from work. In fact, I had a caller to
> > my talk show today from Memphis, who is able to listen from work,
> > without the admins detecting it, becuase even if you listened to the
> > entire 2 hour program, the total bandwidth usage would only be a few
> > megabytes a day. something that would hardly stick out. A super low
> > bandwidth stream of only 8K is not likely to be noticed by any network
> > admins, becuase a lot of other stuff uses a lot more bandwidth, than an
> > 8K feed of my talk show.
> > Simply put, when I throttle the bandwidth down to 8K, it will
> > almost certainly not be noticed by any network admins, even if someone
> > listens to the entire 2 hour program.
> >
>
> cool,
> I am glad you are telling us about your figure skating show again,
> it's been a while...


My show is not just figure skating. While we have live broadcasts
from skating (and
other sporting events that have Australians), my main talk show does a
lot of poltical and current events stuff, as well. With the elections
coming up in America, that has become a hot topic, and is drawing in a
lot of listeners, which is another reason I dropped the feed to 8K when
my talk show airs, so I can get more listeners within the limit of
listeners, before they would have to buy VIP access.
However, an 8K feed of my talk show is not going to be that much
noticed by admins, becuase even if you listened to the entire 2 hour
show, the total bandwidth consumed would be only around 6 megabytes of
data.
>
> M

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Spender wrote:
> On 24 Oct 2006 10:31:59 -0700, chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks to the new 8K bitrate option on Live 365, I can throttle the
> >bit rate down to 8 kilobits, when I do my talk show. This also means
> >that at that super-low bit rate, it would not stand out in any logs, if
> >someone were to listen to my show from work. In fact, I had a caller to
> >my talk show today from Memphis, who is able to listen from work,
> >without the admins detecting it, becuase even if you listened to the
> >entire 2 hour program, the total bandwidth usage would only be a few
> >megabytes a day. something that would hardly stick out. A super low
> >bandwidth stream of only 8K is not likely to be noticed by any network
> >admins, becuase a lot of other stuff uses a lot more bandwidth, than an
> >8K feed of my talk show.
> > Simply put, when I throttle the bandwidth down to 8K, it will
> >almost certainly not be noticed by any network admins, even if someone
> >listens to the entire 2 hour program.
>
> Good for you! It's wonderful that you are getting live figure skating
> coverage and other homosexual issues out to the public.

Skating is NOT a "homosexual" issue. Second, we do MORE than just
figure skating. We do a LOT of sports where Australians compete. We go
gymnastics and swimming as well. We cover the Olympics, when they come
around.
And we are also a political channel as well, and we are well known
for opposing the Bush regime. The ONLY admins that would really want to
block us, that I can see, are the die-hard Bush supporters that
consider anyone opposed to the Regime to be a "Godless Commie". I see
that is the ONLY reason that ANY admin would want to block my show.
However, the "live" server for Live 365, when I switch from automated
to live broadcasting, varies everytime I go live, so even if they did
block one server address, there would be a different address and port
the next time I went on the air. Admins would be playing "whack a
mole:, as one guy once put it, trying to stop my live broadcast. Now,
my automated music programme that runs from their serers, when we are
not broadcasting live, that can be stopped, since the URL never changes
for that, but the URL for live broadcasting does change every time I
switch over to live, and admins would go BERZERCK trying to stop my
LIVE broadcasts.
And as for the one reporter at Fox, who called me up on my show
some time back to call me a "Godless Commie", she was able to do so
from her desk at work, without her admins being able to detect what she
did, because she used an encrypted tunnel to her cable modem at her
apartment on Long Island, and then use her Skype service from her
computer to call me. Neither her connectoin to my show, nor her call,
through her Skype service, would be detected by her admins, becuase it
was on an encrypted tunnel. Any attempt to sniff her packets would not
have gotten any useful information that could have been used against
her.


>
> However, your persistence at advertising your work has no doubt landed you
> on many blacklists. In short, plenty of people in workplaces with paper
> MCSE admins will be able to listen to your show.
>
> But any admin who knows what he is doing will block you without a problem.

However, something that is only "dribbling" at 8K is hardly going to
be noticed on a typical multi-megabit line that businesses typically
use. It would hardly be a blip in bandwidth usage, so network admins
are not going to see anything "fishy" with an audio stream that only
runs at 8K.
And I get listeners all over the USA. My show, yesterday, during
"working hours" in the eastern USA (I am on location in Havana, Cuba
this week), shows listeners from all over the Eastern USA tuned in to
my show.

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"Spender" wrote in message
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> On 26 Oct 2006 02:40:31 -0700, chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >Spender wrote:
> >>
> >> Of course not. Most men just love to wear sequined spandex outfits...
> >
> > That does NOT make them homosexual. A lot of the men of figure
> >skating have made very good husbands and fathers. I just hope people
> >like Scott Hamilton and Ilya Kulik, or Victor Petrenko are not reading
> >this. They would take great exception to that. They are examples of
> >skaters from the mens division that are devoted husbands and fathers.
> >If I had a grown daughter now, I would have no problem with her
> >marrying one.
>
> And your daughter would be very luckily to find one who actually wanted to
> marry a woman...
>
> > Well, in increasingly puritanical and right-wing America, there are
> >probably a lot of admins who are right-wing nutjobs who are hard-core
> >Republicans that would block our broadcasts just on the political views
> >my show airs.
>
> Most admins have no time for such activities. The fact is that most good
> admins block all access to non-work related internet activities. If you
> looked up the stats on the bandwidth and productivity lost to personal
> internet use, you'd understand.
>
> For any admin that intentionally blocks left-wing sites, there is likely a
> counter-part who is blocking right-wing sites. All of those would be
> nut-job admins with too much time on their hands.
>
> > We do MORE than just skating. While we do a lot of it during the
> >height of skating season, we do a lot of other sports, where
> >Australians compete. We are a very Australia-centered online radio
> >station.
>
> Then start playing Australian audio dramas. Wasn't Alien Worlds an
> Australian production?
>
> > Our opposition to the nutjobs of the Religious Right would
> >undoubtedly get us banned in a lot of workplaces south of the
> >Mason-Dixon line, and I have no doubt that a few "family friendly"
> >ISPs, as it were, owned by a few conservative religious organisations,
> >have probably also blocked our broadcasts as well. Anything that
> >opposes their extreme views, would certainly be on their blacklists.
>
> Banning personal uses of the internet in the workplace will happen
> everywhere and without regard to content. It is a bandwidth and
> productivity issue, not political. A lot of cubicle farms ban radios also
> because they don't want the cacophony of dozens of different stations
> playing at once.

I think if they had a Walkman raido, most managers
might not say anything. I was listening some time
back to an all-request show played once a week
here on Friday mornings, and the caller even
admitted she was not supposed to have a radio,
but she had a Walkman radio she was able to
sneak into work, and was listening to the
"Freaky Friday" all request radio show on that
station. With these barely noticeable "ear buds"
you can use, hardly anyone would notice you
were listening to a banned radio, if you can keep
the things from falling out of your ears. I dont
know if this girl who was calling into the
107.9 The End, here in Sacramento, was
using ear buds or not, but she was able to
get away with listening to Freaky Friday and
the Morning Rave, at work, using her Walkman
radio, that she secreted past security into her
workplace. Apparently, it was one of those
"ultra secure" type workplace like Moe
has said he works in. This girl had even
admitted on the air, a couple of years ago
that she quite reguarly secreted her Walkman
past security so she could listen to The Morning
Rave. It is one of Sacramento's more popular
morning radio shows, and some people will
do anything to hear those three wisecracking
morning DJs on the show, and they can get
a little crazy at times, which is why their
listeners love them, and why their show
is one of the top rated morning shows here
in town.

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Spender wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2006 02:40:31 -0700, chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Spender wrote:
>>> Of course not. Most men just love to wear sequined spandex outfits...
:-)

>
> Most admins have no time for such activities. The fact is that most good
> admins block all access to non-work related internet activities. If you
> looked up the stats on the bandwidth and productivity lost to personal
> internet use, you'd understand.
thank you

> For any admin that intentionally blocks left-wing sites, there is likely a
> counter-part who is blocking right-wing sites. All of those would be
> nut-job admins with too much time on their hands.

so true
>
> Banning personal uses of the internet in the workplace will happen
> everywhere and without regard to content. It is a bandwidth and
> productivity issue, not political.

thank you again

> Most of the country consists of
> moderate fence-sitters who dislike both right-wing and left-wing extremism.
> Unfortunately they also have a complete inability to come up with a policy
> of their own, so they always vote for who they see as the lesser of two
> evils. Not being Libertarians, they just can't understand that a drop of
> cyanide in a glass of water is every bit as deadly as a full glass of
> cyanide.

Spender, you are a wise man

and can we get back to security and firewalls, I believe this is the place for it...

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On 25 Oct 2006 15:08:17 -0700 chilly8@hotmail.com may have written:
> And we are also a political channel as well, and we are well known
> for opposing the Bush regime. The ONLY admins that would really want to
> block us, that I can see, are the die-hard Bush supporters that
> consider anyone opposed to the Regime to be a "Godless Commie".

Or those admins tasked with the job of restricting access to content
that obviously has zilch to do with employee's work? Blocking live365
streaming - it ain't tricky...

PD

--
Paul Day
Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/

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> However, your persistence at advertising your work has no doubt landed you
> on many blacklists. In short, plenty of people in workplaces with paper
> MCSE admins will be able to listen to your show.

I dont think I am on very many blacklists. I have just checked the
URL checkers on all the major vendors of filtering software, and
neither my domain, nor any of the IP addresses associated with it are
on any of their blacklists.
And this includes the subdomin that is mapped to my live 365
account. I simply created a "Port map" om my server, which links to my
Live 365 station. When they put the URL into their browser, or into
Windows Media Player, it connects first to my server, which then acts
as a "relay" to my Live 365 station, allowing anyone to bypass normal
filtering of Live 365. Neither that, nor the secondary backup audio
feed on my server are on any of the blacklists of the major filtering
software titles (Websense, CyBlock, SurfControl, Bess, SmartFilter,
WebWasher, Sentian). So I am probably not on any of the filtering lists
of any hardware firewall appliance either, since virtually ALL hardware
appliances have their filtering lists from one ofthe afforementioned
filtering companies. No part of my server or domain is currently in any
of major vendor's filtering lists, so employees at most workplaces can
still listen to my station.