Hay.
i'm starting to work with ad system that will run some banners in
sites. i use _blank as the target frame for clicking the banners, this
command will open a new window like you prolly know.
i'm looking for a command that can open a new Tab, not a browser
window. is there such a command?
Igal wrote:
> i'm looking for a command that can open a new Tab, not a browser
> window. is there such a command?
Since not all browsers have tabs, it would be meaning less.
Actually, i was hoping what in case it's not a tab supported browser it
will just open a new window, like you have a choice =)
Igal wrote:
> i'm starting to work with ad system that will run some banners in
> sites. i use _blank as the target frame for clicking the banners, this
> command will open a new window like you prolly know.
>
> i'm looking for a command that can open a new Tab, not a browser
> window. is there such a command?
Yes, there is - somewhere in the configuration of those browsers that
support tabs. This way users can decide on their own, if they want to use
tabs or windows - whatever they like more.
You don't need target='_blank' either - then the user will not be annoyed by
new tabs/windows, if they don't want them. If they want to open a link in a
new tab/window, it is just a click away, e.g. clicking with the middle
mousebutton or 'Open in new window/tab' of the context menu.
You should also note that you cannot get document to validate again HTML
strict, if you banner system inserts target attributes.
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Benjamin Niemann
Email: pink at odahoda dot de
WWW: http://pink.odahoda.de/
generally you are right, the user should have 100% freedom in this
case, if he wants to open the AD in a new tab, window, whatever.
problem is most users don't really know how to use tabbed browsing, and
probably be annoyed when pressing a link (with the left button) and the
site they were browsing on disappears and instead some AD site takes
it's place on browser screen. plus, at this point they leave My site,
and go to the one i'm advertising.
On Oct 30, 5:14 pm, Benjamin Niemann
> support tabs. This way users can decide on their own, if they want to use
> tabs or windows - whatever they like more.
>
> You don't need target='_blank' either - then the user will not be annoyed by
> new tabs/windows, if they don't want them. If they want to open a link in a
> new tab/window, it is just a click away, e.g. clicking with the middle
> mousebutton or 'Open in new window/tab' of the context menu.
>
> You should also note that you cannot get document to validate again HTML
> strict, if you banner system inserts target attributes.
>
> --
> Benjamin Niemann
> Email: pink at odahoda dot de
> WWW:http://pink.odahoda.de/
Igal wrote:
> On Oct 30, 5:14 pm, Benjamin Niemann
>> Yes, there is - somewhere in the configuration of those browsers that
>> support tabs. This way users can decide on their own, if they want to use
>> tabs or windows - whatever they like more.
>>
>> You don't need target='_blank' either - then the user will not be annoyed
>> by new tabs/windows, if they don't want them. If they want to open a link
>> in a new tab/window, it is just a click away, e.g. clicking with the
>> middle mousebutton or 'Open in new window/tab' of the context menu.
>
> generally you are right, the user should have 100% freedom in this
> case, if he wants to open the AD in a new tab, window, whatever.
> problem is most users don't really know how to use tabbed browsing, and
> probably be annoyed when pressing a link (with the left button) and the
> site they were browsing on disappears and instead some AD site takes
> it's place on browser screen. plus, at this point they leave My site,
> and go to the one i'm advertising.
One thing that even the most clueless surfer knows and
understands: "pressing a link (with the left button) and the site they were
browsing on disappears"
I don't think anyone gets annoyed by this (except for some webmasters).
But a clueless surfer might be annoyed or confused...
....if a new tab is opened, although he "don't really know how to use tabbed
browsing".
....if a new, maximized window is opened, hiding the other window, which is
not easily recognizable as being a new window and not having a working
backbutton, so they can't find the way back to you site, even if they
wanted to.
Of course this does only apply to the most clueless surfers. More
experienced users are fine with the freedom that you don't take away by not
using the target attribute.
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Benjamin Niemann
Email: pink at odahoda dot de
WWW: http://pink.odahoda.de/
Igal wrote:
[top-posting corrected]
> On Oct 30, 5:14 pm, Benjamin Niemann
>> support tabs. This way users can decide on their own, if they want to use
>> tabs or windows - whatever they like more.
>>
>> You don't need target='_blank' either - then the user will not be annoyed by
>> new tabs/windows, if they don't want them. If they want to open a link in a
>> new tab/window, it is just a click away, e.g. clicking with the middle
>> mousebutton or 'Open in new window/tab' of the context menu.
>>
>> You should also note that you cannot get document to validate again HTML
>> strict, if you banner system inserts target attributes.
>>
> generally you are right, the user should have 100% freedom in this
> case, if he wants to open the AD in a new tab, window, whatever.
> problem is most users don't really know how to use tabbed browsing, and
> probably be annoyed when pressing a link (with the left button) and the
> site they were browsing on disappears and instead some AD site takes
> it's place on browser screen. plus, at this point they leave My site,
> and go to the one i'm advertising.
Click a link, and the browser loads the new page. That's what normally
happens. Why do you think it will suddenly annoy your users on this one
occasion?
Meanwhile, popup windows annoy lots of users all the time. That's why so
many people go out of their way to block popups, and the browser makers
have given them the ability to do so.
Okay, thank u guys, i will take your advices and will run my banners
without the target thing.
"Igal"
news:1162221868.760711.212890@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> generally you are right, the user should have 100% freedom in this
> case, if he wants to open the AD in a new tab, window, whatever.
> problem is most users don't really know how to use tabbed browsing,
> and probably be annoyed when pressing a link (with the left button)
> and the site they were browsing on disappears and instead some AD
> site takes it's place on browser screen. plus, at this point they
> leave My site, and go to the one i'm advertising.
That is one of the down sides of advertising for others. Thankfully,
with an extension, I don't even have to see your ads.
Also with extensions, I can maintain the control that you try to take
away. Links always open in the same tab whether you want it to open in
a new one or not.
You put down the intelligence of your users. If something doesn't work
the way they think it should, most will find a way. Users are not as
stupid as you think.
If you are going to post to usenet, please learn how. Don't top post.
http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost
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Stan McCann wrote:
>
> You put down the intelligence of your users. If something doesn't work
> the way they think it should, most will find a way.
Another likely outcome is that they will leave the site altogether and
find some place else that's more user-friendly. ;)
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In article
Stan McCann
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> Implementing negative score for googlegroup postings, see
> http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html
> A zest for living must include a willingness to die. - R.A. Heinlein
About time you came and said something! I was getting fed up with
your absence. :)
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