Slower DSL download speed with router

Slower DSL download speed with router

am 09.12.2006 20:42:01 von Alan Illeman

Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.

I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.

I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
comments?

tia
Alan

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 09.12.2006 23:12:45 von tony

You best find a different repairman. Anybdoy who sells someone a Dlink
router does not have their best interests at heart. To put it nicely
Dlink is shit. The Dlink router is your whole problem. Trash the router
and buy a linksys. Remember i'll be here to prevent anymore of your
computer crashes. Just ask Tony.

Alan Illeman wrote:

> Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
>
> I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
>
> I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> comments?
>
> tia
> Alan

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 09.12.2006 23:32:14 von tony

I checked here
http://forums.speedguide.net/forumdisplay.php?f=80&order=des c and low
and behold no replies ha, ha seems a lot of people must have the same
repairman and a whole lot of people got sold the same brand name router.

Alan Illeman wrote:

> Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
>
> I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
>
> I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> comments?
>
> tia
> Alan

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 09.12.2006 23:44:42 von tony

That's funny when i go to the store to look for linksys routers i always get
the same line we're sold out all we have is Dlink but no one wants them.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B34DD.9CFB69A4@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > You best find a different repairman. Anybdoy who sells someone a Dlink
> > router does not have their best interests at heart. To put it nicely
> > Dlink is shit. The Dlink router is your whole problem. Trash the router
> > and buy a linksys. Remember i'll be here to prevent anymore of your
> > computer crashes. Just ask Tony.
>
> To trash then entire D-Link line without understand, you tend to make
> people not believe what you say.
>
> As an example, while the 604 is junk, they make a DFL-700 device that is
> very nice, has a lot of nice features, etc....
>
> Linksys, while having a nicer interface, is not really better, as I've
> installed over 100 of each, they all have problems. I had a Linksys
> BEFSR41, BEFSX41 and several others that would reboot during extended
> loading of the LAN, a cheap D-Link didn't reboot as a replacement for
> the linksys units.
>
> --
>
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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 09.12.2006 23:45:55 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 09.12.2006 23:54:39 von Warren Oates

In article <457B3C5A.F178E804@TheDeli.Sandwich>,
Tony wrote:

> That's funny when i go to the store to look for linksys routers i always get
> the same line we're sold out all we have is Dlink but no one wants them.

Yah, well I've got a very nice DGL 4300 here, works flawlessly.
--
W. Oates

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 00:12:46 von tony

If sympatico raises the speeds up to true adsl2+ speeds of 24/3.5 your router will
be a cooked goose while that speed wouldn't even phase a linksys router.

Warren Oates wrote:

> In article <457B3C5A.F178E804@TheDeli.Sandwich>,
> Tony wrote:
>
> > That's funny when i go to the store to look for linksys routers i always get
> > the same line we're sold out all we have is Dlink but no one wants them.
>
> Yah, well I've got a very nice DGL 4300 here, works flawlessly.
> --
> W. Oates

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 00:31:51 von Anders

Alan Illeman skrev:
> Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
>
> I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
>
> I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> comments?
>
> tia
> Alan
>
>
Have you checked if there is a newer firmware?
If there is one upgrade the unit.
You can see if the SPI mode ('Tools > Misc') is enabled,
and if it is turn it of to see if you get a better speed.

You can also toggle DoS protection (same 'Misc'tab) on/off.

And of course try to reboot the unit.

But the first thing is the firmware.

The D-link 604 is cheap but no crap the one I have has served me well
and is still doing so.

/Anders

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 00:37:26 von unknown

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am 10.12.2006 00:38:48 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 01:01:21 von tony

You can spout all your lies about Dlink routers but no one except maybe warren is
going to fall for them. Truth is most Dlink routers break down well before the
warranty period is up whereas linksys routers work virtually for generations.
That's the reason most linksys routers cost double what a Dlink router costs.
People think they can get something for nothing. All they end up getting is
nothing but problems just like alan all because he wasn't making a smart decision
in the first place.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B3C5A.F178E804@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > That's funny when i go to the store to look for linksys routers i always get
> > the same line we're sold out all we have is Dlink but no one wants them.
>
> And so you lump all of their products into your very limited scope of
> experience.
>
> Most home users purchase the "Cheapest" device they can get that is
> suppose to do the job - it's no secret, why don't you understand that?
>
> I would be willing to bet that you've never used a higher end D-Link
> device, and since Linksys doesn't come close to those devices (for
> quality or performance) you show your stripes here in your limited
> understanding and experience.
>
> --
>
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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 01:15:43 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 01:32:22 von Curmudgeon Lafive

I've never heard so much hogwash in my life. I talk to people on the loading
docks who bought dlink routers all said the same thing all of them failed
the first month after they bought them. I've always touted the linksys
router as one of the best and as we all know dlink is one of the worst. In
fact i'd say if it wasn't for the hawking router the dlink would be declared
the worst router ever built.

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am 10.12.2006 01:43:27 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 01:59:03 von Curmudgeon Lafive

I don't know what kind of cockamamie mumbo jumbo this is but here in
newfoundland everybody knows everybody and everybody knows that dlink
routers are a hunk a shit. Why at one point in time years ago it was so bad
they were giving them away for free at future shop. I remember even back
then there were no takers and the people in the cashier's lineups were
holding linksys routers.

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 01:59:58 von chuckcar

"Alan Illeman" wrote in
news:12nm43pq7d3j0bd@news.supernews.com:

> Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
>
> I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
>
> I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> comments?
>
> tia
> Alan
>
>
>

What does your dsl box say *its* speed is: frequently you'll get power
surges and the like and the speed the box thinks it should be running at
drops. There's probably a spot on in the setup book you got for the box
that tells you how to find this out. Note: this is *not* the same thing
as a online speed test. If that's the case, try turning the dsl box off
for a couple of seconds and then back on. There's probably a reset
button on the back.

Finally, Not that I had anything to do with it, but sorry about the
ranting that happened instead of the help you were asking for. The best
way to handle ranters/trolls on usenet is to just ignore them and not
reply to their posts. Killfiling them may be satisfying, but doesn't
achieve any desired effect. (s

--
etq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 02:05:47 von tony

If you don't believe me just see what other people on the web have to say about
Dlink. I like this quote Quote: Originally Posted by Perc no, but because the only
d-link product i've seen that works properly is the LED flashlight in my
keychain.
http://www.omgili.com/preview/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nZW5tYXkubmV0L3 Nob3d0aHJlYWQucGhwP3Q9NjU2NTc3

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457b5585$0$328$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
> easterner@screech.drunk says...
> > I've never heard so much hogwash in my life. I talk to people on the loading
> > docks who bought dlink routers all said the same thing all of them failed
> > the first month after they bought them. I've always touted the linksys
> > router as one of the best and as we all know dlink is one of the worst. In
> > fact i'd say if it wasn't for the hawking router the dlink would be declared
> > the worst router ever built.
>
> And I've got a very similar experience with the BEFSR41, BEFSR81, BEFSX,
> BEFVP units, bought then and the first time the experienced any real
> loading they rebooted frequently, or they failed completely and would
> not boot-up, or they ran for months and then died...
>
> I've not had a single DFL series D-Link fail, not one, and they don't
> reboot under heavy load.
>
> So, it would seem that you need to have a little more experience.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 02:11:28 von tony

Looks like my timezone didn't flip over.

Tony wrote:

> If you don't believe me just see what other people on the web have to say about
> Dlink. I like this quote Quote: Originally Posted by Perc no, but because the only
> d-link product i've seen that works properly is the LED flashlight in my
> keychain.
> http://www.omgili.com/preview/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nZW5tYXkubmV0L3 Nob3d0aHJlYWQucGhwP3Q9NjU2NTc3
>
> Leythos wrote:
>
> > In article <457b5585$0$328$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
> > easterner@screech.drunk says...
> > > I've never heard so much hogwash in my life. I talk to people on the loading
> > > docks who bought dlink routers all said the same thing all of them failed
> > > the first month after they bought them. I've always touted the linksys
> > > router as one of the best and as we all know dlink is one of the worst. In
> > > fact i'd say if it wasn't for the hawking router the dlink would be declared
> > > the worst router ever built.
> >
> > And I've got a very similar experience with the BEFSR41, BEFSR81, BEFSX,
> > BEFVP units, bought then and the first time the experienced any real
> > loading they rebooted frequently, or they failed completely and would
> > not boot-up, or they ran for months and then died...
> >
> > I've not had a single DFL series D-Link fail, not one, and they don't
> > reboot under heavy load.
> >
> > So, it would seem that you need to have a little more experience.
> >
> > --
> >
> > spam999free@rrohio.com
> > remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 02:23:12 von tony

I usually don't ever agree with you but these trolls are getting to me too.
This leythos dude is well known all over usenet then he just appears as if
by magic here with some malarky. I told this unfortunate dlink router orphan
the same thing you told him. The router doesn't work.

chuckcar wrote:

> "Alan Illeman" wrote in
> news:12nm43pq7d3j0bd@news.supernews.com:
>
> > Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> > Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> > following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> > installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> > subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
> >
> > I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> > from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> > of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> > I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
> >
> > I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> > him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> > comments?
> >
> > tia
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
>
> What does your dsl box say *its* speed is: frequently you'll get power
> surges and the like and the speed the box thinks it should be running at
> drops. There's probably a spot on in the setup book you got for the box
> that tells you how to find this out. Note: this is *not* the same thing
> as a online speed test. If that's the case, try turning the dsl box off
> for a couple of seconds and then back on. There's probably a reset
> button on the back.
>
> Finally, Not that I had anything to do with it, but sorry about the
> ranting that happened instead of the help you were asking for. The best
> way to handle ranters/trolls on usenet is to just ignore them and not
> reply to their posts. Killfiling them may be satisfying, but doesn't
> achieve any desired effect. (s
>
> --
> etq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 02:25:36 von Sid Knee

chuckcar wrote:
> The best way to handle ranters/trolls on usenet is to just ignore
> them and not reply to their posts.

.... and yet *you* continue to feed them.


> Killfiling them may be satisfying, but doesn't achieve any desired
> effect.

In what way "doesn't achieve any desired effect"?

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router (need Hawking CD)

am 10.12.2006 02:33:34 von sustain

Someone mentioned the "wireless Hawking as the worst router ever". I
bought one because of the rebates that were never honoured and lost the
CD. Anyone have one? Please contact me on the list or at the gmail
address. Thanks.

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am 10.12.2006 02:52:39 von unknown

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am 10.12.2006 02:53:22 von unknown

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am 10.12.2006 03:24:48 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 03:33:49 von tony

Is this you steve? I wonder what the D in Dlink stands for? Defective?
Demoralizing? Dogshit?

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B617F.D90F9741@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > I usually don't ever agree with you but these trolls are getting to me too.
> > This leythos dude is well known all over usenet then he just appears as if
> > by magic here with some malarky. I told this unfortunate dlink router orphan
> > the same thing you told him. The router doesn't work.
>
> For Linksys:
> Results 1 - 10 of about 1,500,000 for linksys router problem. (0.31
> seconds)
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 326,000 for linksys router failure. (0.23
> seconds)
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 345,000 for linksys router failed. (0.22
> seconds)
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 12,800 for befsr failure. (0.09 seconds)
>
> For D-Link:
> Results 1 - 10 of about 1,270,000 for dlink router problem. (0.27
> seconds)
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 238,000 for dlink router failure. (0.21 seconds)
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 203,000 for dlink router failed. (0.33 seconds)
>
> Results 1 - 10 of about 993 for di-604 failure. (0.15 seconds)
>
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>
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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 03:43:26 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 03:56:09 von tony

I think i went through about 7 or 8 Dlink routers in the first 6 months
while it was still under warranty and i said to myself i've had enough of
this. Upon some advice from a computer store owner i bought a linksys
router. I'm still using the same router 8 years later.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B720D.602BF8C7@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> [snip]
>
> What D-Link router, models, do you have experience with and how many?
>
> What Linksys routers, models, do you have experience with and how many?
>
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>
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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:04:55 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:14:00 von tony

Most of the people on this newsgroup couldn't afford a router. See, they need
all the money they can get to pay the exorbitant monthly subscription fees
sympatico charges. Soon a lot of people will file for bankruptcy if sympatico
brings in caps.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B7749.A20E1DDF@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > I think i went through about 7 or 8 Dlink routers in the first 6 months
> > while it was still under warranty and i said to myself i've had enough of
> > this. Upon some advice from a computer store owner i bought a linksys
> > router. I'm still using the same router 8 years later.
>
> Ok, so you're completely discounting my experience with a LOT more
> devices from each vendor than you have - why?
>
> I've not said that either vendor makes perfect product, in fact, I've
> said the contrary, but, it has been my experience, probably more than
> many of the people that read this group, that the DFL series of routers
> is a far better performing\quality device than any of the BEFSR, SX, VP
> routers provided by Linksys.
>
> --
>
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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:16:22 von chuckcar

Sid Knee wrote in
news:457b61e1$0$17868$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

> chuckcar wrote:
>> The best way to handle ranters/trolls on usenet is to just ignore
> > them and not reply to their posts.
>
> ... and yet *you* continue to feed them.
>
>
>> Killfiling them may be satisfying, but doesn't achieve any desired
> > effect.
>
> In what way "doesn't achieve any desired effect"?
>

Take the case with this fool: If I kill file him, he'll just switch to
another nym - he's already done exactly that - he really freaked before
he did though and that was kind of satisfying - You see I didn't really
kill file him. I just said I did and then read his posts, completely
ignoring what they said in mine. That's reason number one. Reason number
two, if you kill file them, they can say anything they want about you,
and you'll never know it, and that can be very bad. I'm sure you can
think of others, but you get the idea - you post they can read anything
you post, but you never read anything they post. Doesn't make for good
knowledge of the lay of the land.

--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:26:09 von unknown

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am 10.12.2006 04:28:11 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:41:52 von tony

At one point in time a while back two smaller canadian isp's were using linksys
routers (the type they sell in best buy and future shop). That shows you what a
linksys router can handle. A Dlink router would last but a millisecond under that
kind of load.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B7B78.DDE9B2D8@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > Most of the people on this newsgroup couldn't afford a router. See, they need
> > all the money they can get to pay the exorbitant monthly subscription fees
> > sympatico charges. Soon a lot of people will file for bankruptcy if sympatico
> > brings in caps.
>
> What does that have to do with you thinking that your very, very, very,
> limited experience means that you are absolutely right and that you
> can't be wrong?
>
> As I said, your experience is not typical, does not follow what I've
> seen in way more cases, but it does indicate that there are some bad
> products, bad runs, on both sides, as we've both seen bad devices.
>
> What you've discounted is many years of my seeing cheap linksys units
> fail in a lot more solutions than you have experience with.
>
> --
>
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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:45:36 von tony

I hope you're not going to tell us you live in Medina Ohio and that other guy
lives in Columbus.

Leythos wrote:

> In article , chuckcar@nil.org
> says...
> > Sid Knee wrote in
> > news:457b61e1$0$17868$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
> >
> > > chuckcar wrote:
> > >> The best way to handle ranters/trolls on usenet is to just ignore
> > > > them and not reply to their posts.
> > >
> > > ... and yet *you* continue to feed them.
> > >
> > >
> > >> Killfiling them may be satisfying, but doesn't achieve any desired
> > > > effect.
> > >
> > > In what way "doesn't achieve any desired effect"?
> > >
> >
> > Take the case with this fool: If I kill file him, he'll just switch to
> > another nym - he's already done exactly that - he really freaked before
> > he did though and that was kind of satisfying - You see I didn't really
> > kill file him. I just said I did and then read his posts, completely
> > ignoring what they said in mine. That's reason number one. Reason number
> > two, if you kill file them, they can say anything they want about you,
> > and you'll never know it, and that can be very bad. I'm sure you can
> > think of others, but you get the idea - you post they can read anything
> > you post, but you never read anything they post. Doesn't make for good
> > knowledge of the lay of the land.
>
> If you're talking about my changing my name, it's not happened in a LONG
> time, I've posted as Leythos for more than 5 years.
>
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>
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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:48:27 von chuckcar

Leythos wrote in
news:f9Leh.2490$SJ3.2218@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> In article , chuckcar@nil.org
> says...

>> Take the case with this fool: If I kill file him, he'll just switch
>> to another nym - he's already done exactly that - he really freaked
>> before he did though and that was kind of satisfying - You see I
>> didn't really kill file him. I just said I did and then read his
>> posts, completely ignoring what they said in mine. That's reason
>> number one. Reason number two, if you kill file them, they can say
>> anything they want about you, and you'll never know it, and that can
>> be very bad. I'm sure you can think of others, but you get the idea -
>> you post they can read anything you post, but you never read anything
>> they post. Doesn't make for good knowledge of the lay of the land.
>
> If you're talking about my changing my name, it's not happened in a
> LONG time, I've posted as Leythos for more than 5 years.
>
No, you're just another victim that's experienced the "Steve delusion"
problem. I've seen it happen on at least 6 other groups. Just in case
you don't know (which apparently you don't - pay more attention to the
"volume" posters - good and bad) Tony aka Steve aka Seedless Grape aka
Steveo ... Are one and the same person. Welcome to usenet, where the
loonies you cross the street to avoid can send you messages.



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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:55:43 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 04:59:08 von tony

I've only been posting on usenet since 1988 that is since the days of fidonet (when
it first originated). I've always been Tony for as far back as when usenet started.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B82E0.78C28848@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > I hope you're not going to tell us you live in Medina Ohio and that other guy
> > lives in Columbus.
>
> I don't live in Medina or Columbus. I've used this nickname for ages,
> many years, and other than posting to one other group with a pseudo
> first name because of moderator rules, I've never shifted names in
> Usenet. I've been posting as either my nickname Leythos, Void or my real
> name since 84.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:00:35 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:03:34 von tony

Apparently you don't know just how bad or just how desperate some of these smaller
isp's in canada got before they went bankrupt. I know for a fact "nothing but net" was
using a few of them.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B8200.401F3F5E@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > At one point in time a while back two smaller canadian isp's were using linksys
> > routers (the type they sell in best buy and future shop). That shows you what a
> > linksys router can handle. A Dlink router would last but a millisecond under that
> > kind of load.
>
> LOL - so you're telling me that a ISP was using a BEFSR to route ALL of
> their traffic from customers to the internet? Ha Ha Ha - you're lost.
> They might have provided their customers with Linksys routers, but that
> doesn't indicate they did it because of quality, more that they got a
> good deal and wanted to limit excess traffic on their backbone from
> their customer.
>
> Why do you ignore that every linksys router I've placed under heavy load
> has rebooted/failed, and when replaced with a D-Link DFL series router,
> that there were no more failures, no problems?
>
> It seems that facts and experience completely contradict the limited
> scope of your experience. It would also seem that you don't know what
> capacity the Linksys routers were used by that ISP or the capacity of
> the ISP.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:05:40 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:08:28 von tony

Is this you steve or is this just a friend of chuck's? Curmudgeon might have
said it best. Who are we today? Dipshit, that's who we are.

Leythos wrote:

> In article , chuckcar@nil.org
> says...
> > Leythos wrote in
> > news:f9Leh.2490$SJ3.2218@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
> >
> > > In article , chuckcar@nil.org
> > > says...
> >
> > >> Take the case with this fool: If I kill file him, he'll just switch
> > >> to another nym - he's already done exactly that - he really freaked
> > >> before he did though and that was kind of satisfying - You see I
> > >> didn't really kill file him. I just said I did and then read his
> > >> posts, completely ignoring what they said in mine. That's reason
> > >> number one. Reason number two, if you kill file them, they can say
> > >> anything they want about you, and you'll never know it, and that can
> > >> be very bad. I'm sure you can think of others, but you get the idea -
> > >> you post they can read anything you post, but you never read anything
> > >> they post. Doesn't make for good knowledge of the lay of the land.
> > >
> > > If you're talking about my changing my name, it's not happened in a
> > > LONG time, I've posted as Leythos for more than 5 years.
> > >
> > No, you're just another victim that's experienced the "Steve delusion"
> > problem. I've seen it happen on at least 6 other groups. Just in case
> > you don't know (which apparently you don't - pay more attention to the
> > "volume" posters - good and bad) Tony aka Steve aka Seedless Grape aka
> > Steveo ... Are one and the same person. Welcome to usenet, where the
> > loonies you cross the street to avoid can send you messages.
>
> LOL, yea, I figured he was a troll, but I was bored and figure that
> facts will always get them upset, as it's hard to derail a fact based
> discussion if you keep pointing out where they are wrong - even better
> when you can prove they don't know what they are talking about :)
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:09:43 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:14:36 von tony

They used two BEFSR41 routers for two months when two of their routers went down.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B8716.826517AD@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > Apparently you don't know just how bad or just how desperate some of these smaller
> > isp's in canada got before they went bankrupt. I know for a fact "nothing but net" was
> > using a few of them.
>
> And if they were having customer relation problems because of bad
> connections you just might have hit on the reason.
>
> Now, you've still not told us if they provided the Linksys to
> users/subscribers or if they built their company infrastructure on the
> Linksys routers - if users/subscribers, then there was little chance of
> a significant load, if their infrastructure, they were fools and no
> wonder they went under.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:35:43 von tony

There was about 700 people and they were speed capped at 50 kilobytes per second
maximum for those two months.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B89AC.32710F55@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > They used two BEFSR41 routers for two months when two of their routers went down.
>
> LOL, it doesn't take two months to replace/repair quality routers, and
> you've still not given any information on the capacity, traffic load,
> etc...
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:37:26 von tony

Now don't fall flat on your face when i say this but is this Darrell? Speechless
huh?

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B883C.BFBD4712@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > Is this you steve or is this just a friend of chuck's? Curmudgeon might have
> > said it best. Who are we today? Dipshit, that's who we are.
>
> You might not be how you present, and you might be a d1psh1t, but at
> least I've shown you to be factually wrong.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:38:50 von unknown

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am 10.12.2006 05:39:42 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:44:09 von tony

Hello Darrell er ah chuck. I figured you never left this newsgroup.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B8F06.B368EB21@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > Now don't fall flat on your face when i say this but is this Darrell? Speechless
> > huh?
>
> What part of I'm the exact person I represent, not a nym shifter, I've
> posted as Leythos for many, many years and never play that game.
>
> So, it appears you are trolling, as you don't have anything to present
> to discount what I've said.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:45:44 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 05:58:17 von Commentator

Leythos wrote:
> In article <457B860C.BA0AC19C@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
>> I've only been posting on usenet since 1988 that is since the days
>> of fidonet (when it first originated). I've always been Tony for as
>> far back as when usenet started.
>
> And I started in 84, and also with the Commodore network that relayed
> messages between systems in the same area-codes to save toll costs
> between states and Canada, long before 88.

Just so we can keep proper score here, so who's dick is bigger then?

Sheesh.

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 07:04:19 von Marc Bissonnette

"Commentator" altered the spacetime fabric by
disgorging news:HtMeh.12260$br.3500@fe169.usenetserver.com:

> Leythos wrote:
>> In article <457B860C.BA0AC19C@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
>> says...
>>> I've only been posting on usenet since 1988 that is since the days
>>> of fidonet (when it first originated). I've always been Tony for as
>>> far back as when usenet started.
>>
>> And I started in 84, and also with the Commodore network that relayed
>> messages between systems in the same area-codes to save toll costs
>> between states and Canada, long before 88.
>
> Just so we can keep proper score here, so who's dick is bigger then?

Mine is, 'cuz I started in the late 70's (That's EIGHTEEN seventies, you
pups!) with two tin cans and some waxed twine.

There, can this thread end, now ?

:)



--
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Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 09:14:09 von tony

Well look who it is old Darrell Larose. Is that head bald yet? How's the
weather in ottawa? Ha, ha you've never been gone i knew that all along but no
one else knew it.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <457B34DD.9CFB69A4@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > You best find a different repairman. Anybdoy who sells someone a Dlink
> > router does not have their best interests at heart. To put it nicely
> > Dlink is shit. The Dlink router is your whole problem. Trash the router
> > and buy a linksys. Remember i'll be here to prevent anymore of your
> > computer crashes. Just ask Tony.
>
> To trash then entire D-Link line without understand, you tend to make
> people not believe what you say.
>
> As an example, while the 604 is junk, they make a DFL-700 device that is
> very nice, has a lot of nice features, etc....
>
> Linksys, while having a nicer interface, is not really better, as I've
> installed over 100 of each, they all have problems. I had a Linksys
> BEFSR41, BEFSX41 and several others that would reboot during extended
> loading of the LAN, a cheap D-Link didn't reboot as a replacement for
> the linksys units.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 13:58:07 von Benson Hedges

On 2006-12-10, Leythos wrote:
> In article <457B82E0.78C28848@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
>> I hope you're not going to tell us you live in Medina Ohio and that other guy
>> lives in Columbus.
>
> I don't live in Medina or Columbus. I've used this nickname for ages,
> many years, and other than posting to one other group with a pseudo
> first name because of moderator rules, I've never shifted names in
> Usenet. I've been posting as either my nickname Leythos, Void or my real
> name since 84.

I remember Leythos from years ago. One of the few consistently good posters
in the groups I subscribed to.IIRC that was mainly alt.computer.security in
my case.

Regards,

BH.

--
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Q. Why is top-posting bad?

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 14:01:08 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 14:48:19 von Warren Oates

In article <457b5bc9$0$395$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
"Curmudgeon Lafive" wrote:

> I don't know what kind of cockamamie mumbo jumbo this is but here in
> newfoundland everybody knows everybody and everybody knows that dlink
> routers are a hunk a shit. Why at one point in time years ago it was so bad
> they were giving them away for free at future shop. I remember even back
> then there were no takers and the people in the cashier's lineups were
> holding linksys routers.

Geez. What do you Newfs do wit' all those routers, bye?
--
W. Oates

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 15:34:03 von tony

I've seen the same thing in the business world. Most are wired and i've never seen a Dlink
router used ever. In most installations the linksys routers are used. But like Leythos says he
has all those years of experience bullshitting people.

fyrfaktry wrote:

> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:35:47 -0330, Tony
> wrote:
>
> >If you don't believe me just see what other people on the web have to say about
> >Dlink. I like this quote Quote: Originally Posted by Perc no, but because the only
> >d-link product i've seen that works properly is the LED flashlight in my
> >keychain.
> >http://www.omgili.com/preview/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5nZW5tYXkubmV0L 3Nob3d0aHJlYWQucGhwP3Q9NjU2NTc3
> >
>
> ROTMFFLMMFAO
>
> Dlink = SHIT
>
> I am constantly taking b0rked ones out of service.
>
> I've installed hundreds of Linksys routers, and only replaced a couple
> due to lightning.

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 17:45:30 von chuckcar

Warren Oates wrote in
news:457c0e7e$0$30627$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:

> In article <457b5bc9$0$395$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
> "Curmudgeon Lafive" wrote:
>
>> I don't know what kind of cockamamie mumbo jumbo this is but here in
>> newfoundland everybody knows everybody and everybody knows that dlink
>> routers are a hunk a shit. Why at one point in time years ago it was
>> so bad they were giving them away for free at future shop. I remember
>> even back then there were no takers and the people in the cashier's
>> lineups were holding linksys routers.
>
> Geez. What do you Newfs do wit' all those routers, bye?

They're building a bridge to labrador...

--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 17:49:47 von Senex

Alan Illeman explained :
> Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
>
> I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
>
> I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> comments?
>
> tia
> Alan

Firstly I would remove the router temporarily and use the modem only.
Just to make sure the Router doesn't have a problem. If your speeds
are still slow the problem is most likely outside your internal loop
because modems 'usually' work or they don't. It *is* possible for the
modem to have a problem but unlikely. The next phase would be for
telco to do a line test between you and the CO to determine line loss
and signal to noise ratio.
You may as well do the router thing before the fact because that is the
*first* thing they will want you to do.

It might be nice to try speakeasy to see if you are actually
consistently slow or whether there is data stalling.

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

The latter virtually proves a problem at the ISPs' end.

Stalling is indicated by normal speed then a severe drop in speed
followed by increased speed etc etc.....

Hope this helps a little.

--
Senex

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 17:51:51 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 18:10:23 von tony

It can't be his modem. Unlike the made in china junk that speedstream puts
out the speedtouch was made in a real country called france.

Senex wrote:

> Alan Illeman explained :
> > Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> > Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> > following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> > installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> > subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
> >
> > I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> > from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> > of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> > I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
> >
> > I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> > him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> > comments?
> >
> > tia
> > Alan
>
> Firstly I would remove the router temporarily and use the modem only.
> Just to make sure the Router doesn't have a problem. If your speeds
> are still slow the problem is most likely outside your internal loop
> because modems 'usually' work or they don't. It *is* possible for the
> modem to have a problem but unlikely. The next phase would be for
> telco to do a line test between you and the CO to determine line loss
> and signal to noise ratio.
> You may as well do the router thing before the fact because that is the
> *first* thing they will want you to do.
>
> It might be nice to try speakeasy to see if you are actually
> consistently slow or whether there is data stalling.
>
> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>
> The latter virtually proves a problem at the ISPs' end.
>
> Stalling is indicated by normal speed then a severe drop in speed
> followed by increased speed etc etc.....
>
> Hope this helps a little.
>
> --
> Senex

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 18:15:00 von tony

His roadrunner connection... this guy is on the phone night and day with
tech support trying to get connected to the internet he is clueless. You
know it's funny when someone like me posts the only right answer how all
these "know it all gomers" pop up on this newsgroup with the most absurd
answers i think i've ever heard.

ASMx4 wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Dec 2006 14:42:01 -0500, "Alan Illeman"
> wrote:
>
> >Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> >Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> >following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> >installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> >subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
> >
> >I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> >from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> >of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> >I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
> >
> >I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> >him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> >comments?
> >
> >tia
> >Alan
> >
>
> Hi Allan
> I see this kind of thing occasionally...
>
> ...oh, hold on...
> right click
> killfile
> add user
> Tony
> enter
> (priorities, you know.)
>
> ... on my Roadrunner connection. usually when there's some type of
> service "issue" or interuption. I hate to ask the "Is it plugged in"
> question but, have you reset the modem and the router? Unplugged them
> for 30-60 seconds, at least? Did you visit your isp's website,
> specifially the "Network Status" page to verify they aren't having
> issues?
> Just asking the obvious. Don't take offense.
> ASMx4

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 18:32:28 von Senex

Tony explained on 12/10/2006 :
> It can't be his modem. Unlike the made in china junk that speedstream puts
> out the speedtouch was made in a real country called france.
>
> Senex wrote:
>
>> Alan Illeman explained :
>>> Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
>>> Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
>>> following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
>>> installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
>>> subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
>>>
>>> I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
>>> from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
>>> of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
>>> I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
>>>
>>> I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
>>> him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
>>> comments?
>>>
>>> tia
>>> Alan
>>
>> Firstly I would remove the router temporarily and use the modem only.
>> Just to make sure the Router doesn't have a problem. If your speeds
>> are still slow the problem is most likely outside your internal loop
>> because modems 'usually' work or they don't. It *is* possible for the
>> modem to have a problem but unlikely. The next phase would be for
>> telco to do a line test between you and the CO to determine line loss
>> and signal to noise ratio.
>> You may as well do the router thing before the fact because that is the
>> *first* thing they will want you to do.
>>
>> It might be nice to try speakeasy to see if you are actually
>> consistently slow or whether there is data stalling.
>>
>> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>>
>> The latter virtually proves a problem at the ISPs' end.
>>
>> Stalling is indicated by normal speed then a severe drop in speed
>> followed by increased speed etc etc.....
>>
>> Hope this helps a little.
>>
>> --
>> Senex

*WHY* don't you read the damn post *before* you start spilling your
drivel?

I said:
"It *is* possible for the modem to have a problem but unlikely."

So, give a possible solution to the problem or shut the f*&k up.
You're always babbling and giving folks nothing but fits. I don't do
this very often but I'm truly tired of you and your useless tripe.

*PLONK*

--
Senex

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 10.12.2006 21:25:03 von unknown

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am 10.12.2006 22:08:07 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 11.12.2006 07:02:39 von Curmudgeon Lafive

So you wad of weasel shit i see you're trying to disrupt this newsgroup too.
Ah out there where the stench of pig shit reigns supreme ah out there. Now
who are we today? Lets see, dipshit that's who we are today.


"Benson Hedges" wrote in
message news:slrneno10a.6kp.news@stonehenge.lotech.co.uk...
> On 2006-12-10, Leythos wrote:
>> In article <457B82E0.78C28848@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
>> says...
>>> I hope you're not going to tell us you live in Medina Ohio and that
>>> other guy
>>> lives in Columbus.
>>
>> I don't live in Medina or Columbus. I've used this nickname for ages,
>> many years, and other than posting to one other group with a pseudo
>> first name because of moderator rules, I've never shifted names in
>> Usenet. I've been posting as either my nickname Leythos, Void or my real
>> name since 84.
>
> I remember Leythos from years ago. One of the few consistently good
> posters
> in the groups I subscribed to.IIRC that was mainly alt.computer.security
> in
> my case.
>
> Regards,
>
> BH.
>
> --
> A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion.
> Q. Why is top-posting bad?

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 11.12.2006 09:00:37 von Curmudgeon Lafive

Here's proof that Steve is actually Seedless Grape. Look right near the
bottom of the
page you'll see the name Steve and Seedless Grape.
http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.gardens.edible/browse_thre ad/thread/c9606fdec15a05a7/6bc3c74ed064e3e2?lnk=st&q=%22Seed less+Grape%22&rnum=57&hl=en#6bc3c74ed064e3e2


"chuckcar" wrote in message
news:Xns9894E93DB220Achuckcar@194.177.96.26...
> Leythos wrote in
> news:f9Leh.2490$SJ3.2218@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
>
>> In article , chuckcar@nil.org
>> says...
>
>>> Take the case with this fool: If I kill file him, he'll just switch
>>> to another nym - he's already done exactly that - he really freaked
>>> before he did though and that was kind of satisfying - You see I
>>> didn't really kill file him. I just said I did and then read his
>>> posts, completely ignoring what they said in mine. That's reason
>>> number one. Reason number two, if you kill file them, they can say
>>> anything they want about you, and you'll never know it, and that can
>>> be very bad. I'm sure you can think of others, but you get the idea -
>>> you post they can read anything you post, but you never read anything
>>> they post. Doesn't make for good knowledge of the lay of the land.
>>
>> If you're talking about my changing my name, it's not happened in a
>> LONG time, I've posted as Leythos for more than 5 years.
>>
> No, you're just another victim that's experienced the "Steve delusion"
> problem. I've seen it happen on at least 6 other groups. Just in case
> you don't know (which apparently you don't - pay more attention to the
> "volume" posters - good and bad) Tony aka Steve aka Seedless Grape aka
> Steveo ... Are one and the same person. Welcome to usenet, where the
> loonies you cross the street to avoid can send you messages.
>
>
>
> --
> (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 11.12.2006 14:16:25 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 11.12.2006 16:57:19 von Steve Wong

Ha those studies mean nothing. How about a reliability study? Dlink are one
of the worst routers last maybe a month or two then kaput. No one in pacific
mall even sells these dlink routers because no one in the area would buy one
even when on sale.


"Spender" wrote in message
news:hdmqn2dbbplgjvfjb53u3rtaupbb5602i5@news.easynews.com...
> On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:12:45 -0500, Tony wrote:
>
>>You best find a different repairman. Anybdoy who sells someone a Dlink
>>router does not have their best interests at heart. To put it nicely
>>Dlink is shit. The Dlink router is your whole problem. Trash the router
>>and buy a linksys. Remember i'll be here to prevent anymore of your
>>computer crashes. Just ask Tony.
>
> Not all D-Link routers are crap. Two of them are listed in the top ten in
> data throughput at http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/router-charts/.
>
> But the DI-604 is third from the bottom...

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 12.12.2006 02:40:36 von darrell.larose

Michael wrote:
> Well look who it is old Darrell Larose. Is that head bald yet? How's the
> weather in ottawa? Ha, ha you've never been gone i knew that all along bu=
t no
> one else knew it.
>
Sorry to disappoint you Michael, but I still have a full head of hair.
Ottawa had a light dusting of snow this morning and warmed up to +3°
C

I guess with you being wrong any everyone else being right must eat
into to your lack of manhood. I will predict that you'll fire up your
Nomen Nescio account on dizum.com again. And go a trolling again, now
that his buddy Richard Scoville has been nuked off of the Internet.

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 12.12.2006 04:28:43 von tony

This doesn't sound like darrell. I've always noticed one thing about you on usenet
you were always too stupid to lie about anything.

darrell.larose@gmail.com wrote:

> Michael wrote:
> > Well look who it is old Darrell Larose. Is that head bald yet? How's the
> > weather in ottawa? Ha, ha you've never been gone i knew that all along but no
> > one else knew it.
> >
> Sorry to disappoint you Michael, but I still have a full head of hair.
> Ottawa had a light dusting of snow this morning and warmed up to +3°
> C.
>
> I guess with you being wrong any everyone else being right must eat
> into to your lack of manhood. I will predict that you'll fire up your
> Nomen Nescio account on dizum.com again. And go a trolling again, now
> that his buddy Richard Scoville has been nuked off of the Internet.

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 00:43:23 von Alan Illeman

"Alan Illeman" wrote in message
news:12nm43pq7d3j0bd@news.supernews.com...
> Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
>
> I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
>
> I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> comments?
>
> tia
> Alan

Thanks to those that responded positively (others should go
to http://www.laughteryoga.ca/). The tech guy used
his setup on my line and got the same result at noon today,
and the ISP put a "trouble ticket" into Bell. Checked at 5 pm
and speed has been restored, in fact a little faster than it was,
as per http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 00:55:38 von tony

You bonehead the whole problem is your 2 cent router. Throw that router
off a cliff or into a bottomless pit. To all the weasels who told him
different i hope you're happy now the guy has some trouble ticket
that'll get him nowhere. Jump up and down on that router.

Alan Illeman wrote:

> "Alan Illeman" wrote in message
> news:12nm43pq7d3j0bd@news.supernews.com...
> > Win2K Pro SP.4, single user, SpeedTouch modem, PPPoE,
> > Dlink Dl-604 router. I used to use a Kerio firewall but
> > following a crash In October, the guy who repaired it,
> > installed a Dlink router in place of the firewall. I have a
> > subscription to Grisoft's AVG7.5 and there's been no problems.
> >
> > I used to get 170 KB/s download (3 MB service but long way
> > from CO) but now it's only about 35 KB/s, about only a fifth
> > of what it used to be. I've tested it by downloading files that
> > I've previously downloaded, at different times of day.
> >
> > I have a call into my repair guy and will probably speak to
> > him this coming week, but wonder if you have any helpful
> > comments?
> >
> > tia
> > Alan
>
> Thanks to those that responded positively (others should go
> to http://www.laughteryoga.ca/). The tech guy used
> his setup on my line and got the same result at noon today,
> and the ISP put a "trouble ticket" into Bell. Checked at 5 pm
> and speed has been restored, in fact a little faster than it was,
> as per http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 01:37:21 von chuckcar

Leythos wrote in
news:831gh.4101$SJ3.4080@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> In article <458092FA.3BEF1E48@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
>> You bonehead the whole problem is your 2 cent router. Throw that
>> router off a cliff or into a bottomless pit. To all the weasels who
>> told him different i hope you're happy now the guy has some trouble
>> ticket that'll get him nowhere. Jump up and down on that router.
>
> Did you read what he wrote? All of it?
>
> "The tech guy used his setup on my line and got the same result at
> noon today, and the ISP put a "trouble ticket" into Bell. Checked at 5
> pm and speed has been restored, in fact a little faster than it was,
> as per http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/"
>
> So, that means you were 100% wrong Tony, that you don't have the
> experience to help anyone here since you have no ability to learn from
> others, and that you were still wrong when you posted your BS again.
>
> His speed has returned without removing the router - we're waiting for
> your admission of being wrong.
>

Ignore him, killfile him if you like - several here have. He's just
another useless kiddie troll.

--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 01:39:32 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 01:48:02 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 02:21:40 von tony

What are you talking about? You were one of those weasels i was talking about
that bumsteered the guy. Oh you'll see how fast he comes back here with the
same question all thanks to people like you. Can't you see the poor guy is
green as grass he doesn't even know how to take the router out and just
connect the modem up to the computer. Someone else set his whole computer up
for him and when the slightest thing goes wrong he hasn't a clue. He's
clueless then some gomers give the guy even worst advice telling him nothing
is wrong. I say pitch that router into the nearest lake or ocean.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <458092FA.3BEF1E48@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > You bonehead the whole problem is your 2 cent router. Throw that router
> > off a cliff or into a bottomless pit. To all the weasels who told him
> > different i hope you're happy now the guy has some trouble ticket
> > that'll get him nowhere. Jump up and down on that router.
>
> Did you read what he wrote? All of it?
>
> "The tech guy used his setup on my line and got the same result at noon
> today, and the ISP put a "trouble ticket" into Bell. Checked at 5 pm
> and speed has been restored, in fact a little faster than it was,
> as per http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/"
>
> So, that means you were 100% wrong Tony, that you don't have the
> experience to help anyone here since you have no ability to learn from
> others, and that you were still wrong when you posted your BS again.
>
> His speed has returned without removing the router - we're waiting for
> your admission of being wrong.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 02:23:30 von tony

Here we go another guy who didn't even read the original question. I can
tell someone's opinion must come highly rated when he can answer a question
without even reading the question.

chuckcar wrote:

> Leythos wrote in
> news:831gh.4101$SJ3.4080@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
>
> > In article <458092FA.3BEF1E48@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> > says...
> >> You bonehead the whole problem is your 2 cent router. Throw that
> >> router off a cliff or into a bottomless pit. To all the weasels who
> >> told him different i hope you're happy now the guy has some trouble
> >> ticket that'll get him nowhere. Jump up and down on that router.
> >
> > Did you read what he wrote? All of it?
> >
> > "The tech guy used his setup on my line and got the same result at
> > noon today, and the ISP put a "trouble ticket" into Bell. Checked at 5
> > pm and speed has been restored, in fact a little faster than it was,
> > as per http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/"
> >
> > So, that means you were 100% wrong Tony, that you don't have the
> > experience to help anyone here since you have no ability to learn from
> > others, and that you were still wrong when you posted your BS again.
> >
> > His speed has returned without removing the router - we're waiting for
> > your admission of being wrong.
> >
>
> Ignore him, killfile him if you like - several here have. He's just
> another useless kiddie troll.
>
> --
> (setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 02:24:43 von tony

I know you and Orson Wells all the way back to 1984.

Leythos wrote:

> In article , chuckcar@nil.org
> says...
> > Leythos wrote in
> > news:831gh.4101$SJ3.4080@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:
> >
> > > In article <458092FA.3BEF1E48@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> > > says...
> > >> You bonehead the whole problem is your 2 cent router. Throw that
> > >> router off a cliff or into a bottomless pit. To all the weasels who
> > >> told him different i hope you're happy now the guy has some trouble
> > >> ticket that'll get him nowhere. Jump up and down on that router.
> > >
> > > Did you read what he wrote? All of it?
> > >
> > > "The tech guy used his setup on my line and got the same result at
> > > noon today, and the ISP put a "trouble ticket" into Bell. Checked at 5
> > > pm and speed has been restored, in fact a little faster than it was,
> > > as per http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/"
>

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 03:10:45 von Senex

Tony expressed precisely :
> What are you talking about? You were one of those weasels i was talking about
> that bumsteered the guy. Oh you'll see how fast he comes back here with the
> same question all thanks to people like you. Can't you see the poor guy is
> green as grass he doesn't even know how to take the router out and just
> connect the modem up to the computer. Someone else set his whole computer up
> for him and when the slightest thing goes wrong he hasn't a clue. He's
> clueless then some gomers give the guy even worst advice telling him nothing
> is wrong. I say pitch that router into the nearest lake or ocean.
>
> Leythos wrote:
>
>> In article <458092FA.3BEF1E48@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
>> says...
>>> You bonehead the whole problem is your 2 cent router. Throw that router
>>> off a cliff or into a bottomless pit. To all the weasels who told him
>>> different i hope you're happy now the guy has some trouble ticket
>>> that'll get him nowhere. Jump up and down on that router.
>>
>> Did you read what he wrote? All of it?
>>
>> "The tech guy used his setup on my line and got the same result at noon
>> today, and the ISP put a "trouble ticket" into Bell. Checked at 5 pm
>> and speed has been restored, in fact a little faster than it was,
>> as per http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/"
>>
>> So, that means you were 100% wrong Tony, that you don't have the
>> experience to help anyone here since you have no ability to learn from
>> others, and that you were still wrong when you posted your BS again.
>>
>> His speed has returned without removing the router - we're waiting for
>> your admission of being wrong.
>>
>> --
>>
>> spam999free@rrohio.com
>> remove 999 in order to email me

FOOL

--
Senex

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 03:16:25 von tony

He'll be back you'll see probably with worst problems.

Senex wrote:

> Tony expressed precisely :
> > What are you talking about? You were one of those weasels i was talking about
> > that bumsteered the guy. Oh you'll see how fast he comes back here with the
> > same question all thanks to people like you. Can't you see the poor guy is
> > green as grass he doesn't even know how to take the router out and just
> > connect the modem up to the computer. Someone else set his whole computer up
> > for him and when the slightest thing goes wrong he hasn't a clue. He's
> > clueless then some gomers give the guy even worst advice telling him nothing
> > is wrong. I say pitch that router into the nearest lake or ocean.
> >
> > Leythos wrote:
> >
> >> In article <458092FA.3BEF1E48@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> >> says...
> >>> You bonehead the whole problem is your 2 cent router. Throw that router
> >>> off a cliff or into a bottomless pit. To all the weasels who told him
> >>> different i hope you're happy now the guy has some trouble ticket
> >>> that'll get him nowhere. Jump up and down on that router.
> >>
> >> Did you read what he wrote? All of it?
> >>
>

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 12:43:32 von unknown

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Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 14.12.2006 16:40:54 von tony

Read what he said. Everything worked perfect until that dipshit repairman
unloaded that piece of shit router on him. Alan is a novice he knows
nothing about computers like i said give it a few days he'll be back here
with the same problem and possibly other problems.

Leythos wrote:

> In article <4580B3F8.66195D8F@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
> > He'll be back you'll see probably with worst problems.
>
> So you can read - he didn't have a problem with the router, it was
> signal quality on the ISP device. Come on, admit that in this case you
> were 100% wrong and we might change our opinion on what a looser you
> are.
>
> --
>
> spam999free@rrohio.com
> remove 999 in order to email me

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 15.12.2006 00:09:34 von chuckcar

Leythos wrote in
news:458138f7$0$4860$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> In article <4580B3F8.66195D8F@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> says...
>> He'll be back you'll see probably with worst problems.
>
> So you can read - he didn't have a problem with the router, it was
> signal quality on the ISP device. Come on, admit that in this case you
> were 100% wrong and we might change our opinion on what a looser you
> are.
>

If you want a really good laugh, take a look at the thread he created on
sympatico.highspeed. Four different nyms of his all saying he's right.
Truly amazing...

--
(setq (chuck nil) car(chuck) )

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 15.12.2006 14:29:51 von Alan Illeman

"chuckcar" wrote in message
news:Xns9899B9F756858chuckcar@194.177.96.26...
> Leythos wrote in
> news:458138f7$0$4860$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
> > In article <4580B3F8.66195D8F@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> > says...
> >> He'll be back you'll see probably with worst problems.
> >
> > So you can read - he didn't have a problem with the router, it was
> > signal quality on the ISP device. Come on, admit that in this case you
> > were 100% wrong and we might change our opinion on what a looser you
> > are.
> >
>
> If you want a really good laugh, take a look at the thread he created on
> sympatico.highspeed. Four different nyms of his all saying he's right.
> Truly amazing...

"Alan illeman Junior" is not me, nor related to me!!
Admittedly I have some line problems and am not getting anything like
the advertised 3 MB/s but 180 KB/s is fine for now. When I take the
modem out, the speed is still 180 KB/s.

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 16.12.2006 14:49:08 von Alan Illeman

"Alan Illeman" wrote in message
news:12o58hvk2ar4576@news.supernews.com...
>
> "chuckcar" wrote in message
> news:Xns9899B9F756858chuckcar@194.177.96.26...
> > Leythos wrote in
> > news:458138f7$0$4860$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
> >
> > > In article <4580B3F8.66195D8F@TheDeli.Sandwich>, Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich
> > > says...
> > >> He'll be back you'll see probably with worst problems.
> > >
> > > So you can read - he didn't have a problem with the router, it was
> > > signal quality on the ISP device. Come on, admit that in this case you
> > > were 100% wrong and we might change our opinion on what a looser you
> > > are.
> > >
> >
> > If you want a really good laugh, take a look at the thread he created on
> > sympatico.highspeed. Four different nyms of his all saying he's right.
> > Truly amazing...
>
> "Alan illeman Junior" is not me, nor related to me!!
> Admittedly I have some line problems and am not getting anything like
> the advertised 3 MB/s but 180 KB/s is fine for now. When I take the
> modem out, the speed is still 180 KB/s.

typo!
Should have said "When I take the router out, the speed is still 180 KB/s."

Re: Slower DSL download speed with router

am 16.12.2006 15:30:07 von Volker Birk

Tony wrote:
[something]

Tony,

Because that disturbes the readers.
> Why isn't it a good idea to do a fullquoting afterwards?

Yours,
VB.
--
"Life was simple before World War II. After that, we had systems."
Grace Hopper