IIS session and IE7

I have asp and asp.net web application. When I run it in IE7 in first tab it
starts a new session. When I open second tab and browse to the same site the
new session is not started (infact I need to have new session there).
Whereas, 2 IE instances generate 2 unique sessions. Only issue is with IE
tabs. Firefox also has similar things but lets not talk about firefox here.
I am more concerned with IE only.

Any tips/tricks/missing knowledge.

[sorry if I have posted this to the wrong audiences]

Re: IIS session and IE7

abcd wrote on 17 jan 2007 in microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:

> I have asp and asp.net web application. When I run it in IE7 in first
> tab it starts a new session. When I open second tab and browse to the
> same site the new session is not started (infact I need to have new
> session there). Whereas, 2 IE instances generate 2 unique sessions.
> Only issue is with IE tabs. Firefox also has similar things but lets
> not talk about firefox here. I am more concerned with IE only.
>
> Any tips/tricks/missing knowledge.
>
> [sorry if I have posted this to the wrong audiences]

The behavour of cookies in diggerent browsers is a clientside issue,
ASP is strictly serverside code, so how it's session.id cookie is handled
is out of reach of ASP.

The same probably goes for asp.net, but that has it's own NG's, or so they
say, this NG is classic ASP only.

This does not mean, that this tab issue is not important to ASP
programmers, so thank you for mentioning it.

It could be that some clever serverside programming can alliviate the
consequences.

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Re: IIS session and IE7

Evertjan

I am more interested in Session.sessionid value which is server side thing.
Having a unique session ID matters to the web applications which are already
developed to do so. IE7 tabs does not meet this requirement. I dont know why
it is designed like that. Thats what I am trying to dig.

[Just saying this is not approprate group is not the solution. :) ]



"Evertjan." wrote in message
news:Xns98BBCA38D7641eejj99@194.109.133.242...
> abcd wrote on 17 jan 2007 in microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:
>
>> I have asp and asp.net web application. When I run it in IE7 in first
>> tab it starts a new session. When I open second tab and browse to the
>> same site the new session is not started (infact I need to have new
>> session there). Whereas, 2 IE instances generate 2 unique sessions.
>> Only issue is with IE tabs. Firefox also has similar things but lets
>> not talk about firefox here. I am more concerned with IE only.
>>
>> Any tips/tricks/missing knowledge.
>>
>> [sorry if I have posted this to the wrong audiences]
>
> The behavour of cookies in diggerent browsers is a clientside issue,
> ASP is strictly serverside code, so how it's session.id cookie is handled
> is out of reach of ASP.
>
> The same probably goes for asp.net, but that has it's own NG's, or so they
> say, this NG is classic ASP only.
>
> This does not mean, that this tab issue is not important to ASP
> programmers, so thank you for mentioning it.
>
> It could be that some clever serverside programming can alliviate the
> consequences.
>
> --
> Evertjan.
> The Netherlands.
> (Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)

Re: IIS session and IE7

abcd wrote on 17 jan 2007 in microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:

> "Evertjan." wrote in message
> news:Xns98BBCA38D7641eejj99@194.109.133.242...
>> abcd wrote on 17 jan 2007 in microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:
>>
>>> I have asp and asp.net web application. When I run it in IE7 in
>>> first tab it starts a new session. When I open second tab and browse
>>> to the same site the new session is not started (infact I need to
>>> have new session there). Whereas, 2 IE instances generate 2 unique
>>> sessions. Only issue is with IE tabs. Firefox also has similar
>>> things but lets not talk about firefox here. I am more concerned
>>> with IE only.
>>>
>>> Any tips/tricks/missing knowledge.
>>>
>>> [sorry if I have posted this to the wrong audiences]
>>
>> The behavour of cookies in diggerent browsers is a clientside issue,
>> ASP is strictly serverside code, so how it's session.id cookie is
>> handled is out of reach of ASP.
>>
>> The same probably goes for asp.net, but that has it's own NG's, or so
>> they say, this NG is classic ASP only.
>>
>> This does not mean, that this tab issue is not important to ASP
>> programmers, so thank you for mentioning it.
>>
>> It could be that some clever serverside programming can alliviate the
>> consequences.

[Please do not toppost on usenet]

> I am more interested in Session.sessionid value which is server side
> thing. Having a unique session ID matters to the web applications
> which are already developed to do so. IE7 tabs does not meet this
> requirement. I dont know why it is designed like that. Thats what I am
> trying to dig.
>
> [Just saying this is not approprate group is not the solution. :) ]

I did not JUST say that, but I think, as I said, it is a clientside thing
what happens to the cookie and the only way ASP can deal with that is not
needing the single browser window, so clever programming.

There, though I doubt that be a IIS settings solutution, but that also is
outside the scope of ASP programming.

So let's ask this question:

Why is it so important for your web program[ming] to not to have two
windows in one session?

If you/we know that, then perhaps we can make it unimportant by
programming tweaks.

Example:

Say that submitting two forms would mess up your programme?
Whel, then give the form a onetime hidden value, that is checked
serverside.



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Re: IIS session and IE7

"abcd" wrote in message
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> Evertjan
>
> I am more interested in Session.sessionid value which is server side
thing.
> Having a unique session ID matters to the web applications which are
already
> developed to do so. IE7 tabs does not meet this requirement. I dont know
why
> it is designed like that. Thats what I am trying to dig.

Actually this isn't really much different in IE6. Opening a new Tab in IE7
is pretty much the same function as using IE6's 'open in new window'. In
both cases the new window runs in the same IExplore process.

ASP uses a transient cookie to store a SessionID. This cookie behaves just
like any other cookie in that whenever a request is made to a path that
matches the one specified when it was created it will get sent in the
request. It only differs from standard cookies in that it never gets
written to disk and therefore is only available to the process that received
it.

An ASP application can not maintain two different sessions on behalf of a
single client browser process (unless that browser did some very clever
sandboxing, I don't know of any that do).