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I recently installed active perl on my windows xp box SP2. but the perl
engine is not starting, it is giving a hint to change some IE setting at the
bottom, and i have done that ('enable'd it for intranet security settings).
but the perl engine is still not working and still giving the same error.

plz. advice.

thank you.
Rajeev


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Re: Perl installation

Rajeev Prasad wrote:
> I recently installed active perl on my windows xp box SP2. but the perl
> engine is not starting, it is giving a hint to change some IE setting at
> the bottom, and i have done that ('enable'd it for intranet security
> settings). but the perl engine is still not working and still giving the
> same error.

What's a perl engine and what does it have to do with IE ?
Just exactly how are you attempting to execute it ?
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RE: Perl installation

Hi Bill,

After I installed active perl. I found new group for active perl under
programs tab. I am running following link from there :
C:\Perl\html\lib\Win32\OLE\Browser.html

And I am getting:
Internet Explorer could not load the PerlScript engine. This is most likely
due to the value of the "Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked
as safe" security setting of the "Local intranet" zone. PerlScript inside IE
will only run on Windows XP SP2 and later if this setting is set to Enable.
Setting it to Prompt doesn't seem to work.

Plz see if you/someone can help with this. Do I need windows scripting host
to start coding in perl? What am I doing wrong?

Thank you.
Rajeev

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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:54 PM
To: activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com
Subject: Re: Perl installation

Rajeev Prasad wrote:
> I recently installed active perl on my windows xp box SP2. but the perl
> engine is not starting, it is giving a hint to change some IE setting at
> the bottom, and i have done that ('enable'd it for intranet security
> settings). but the perl engine is still not working and still giving the
> same error.

What's a perl engine and what does it have to do with IE ?
Just exactly how are you attempting to execute it ?
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Re: Perl installation

Rajeev wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> After I installed active perl. I found new group for active perl under
> programs tab. I am running following link from there :
> C:\Perl\html\lib\Win32\OLE\Browser.html

What version are you running (see last paragraph for how to find out).

I would expect to find it here instead (at least on my 5.8.6 Build 811
[slightly old] version): C:\Perl\html\OLE-Browser\Browser.html
but regardless of where it is, continue on.

> And I am getting:
> Internet Explorer could not load the PerlScript engine. This is most likely
> due to the value of the "Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked
> as safe" security setting of the "Local intranet" zone. PerlScript inside IE
> will only run on Windows XP SP2 and later if this setting is set to Enable.
> Setting it to Prompt doesn't seem to work.

I would expect you to get a line at the top that says that the file has some
activex controls and you need to perform some action.

This is what I get:
"To help protect your security, Internet Explorer has restricted this webpage
from running scripts or Activex controls that could access your computer.
Click here for options... X"

> Plz see if you/someone can help with this. Do I need windows scripting host
> to start coding in perl? What am I doing wrong?

All you need to start coding in Perl is an editor and maybe a console window
to run them from. After that you can get into more complicated stuff where
you interact with a browser or the more esoteric Windoze features like OLE/ODBC
etc.

To start with, go to a console window and type "perl -v" and that should tell
you if your install is ok and give you the version info. If the Perl tree
didn't get added to your path, you may have to qualify it "c:\perl\bin\perl -v".



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RE: Perl installation

Perl,
I am running perl version 5.8.8
I read on: http://support.activestate.com/tags/perl/feed that: "the OLE
browser will not function with Internet Explorer 7". and I am running IE7
on my laptop, so I guess I am stuck here.

The ole browser link was installed by the perl installation program.

I was under impression that it was a color coded scripting interface for
activeperl.

I will try writing some perl code now.
Thank you.
Rajeev


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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 5:49 PM
To: Rajeev
Cc: activeperl@listserv.ActiveState.com
Subject: Re: Perl installation

Rajeev wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> After I installed active perl. I found new group for active perl under
> programs tab. I am running following link from there :
> C:\Perl\html\lib\Win32\OLE\Browser.html

What version are you running (see last paragraph for how to find out).

I would expect to find it here instead (at least on my 5.8.6 Build 811
[slightly old] version): C:\Perl\html\OLE-Browser\Browser.html
but regardless of where it is, continue on.

> And I am getting:
> Internet Explorer could not load the PerlScript engine. This is most
likely
> due to the value of the "Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked
> as safe" security setting of the "Local intranet" zone. PerlScript inside
IE
> will only run on Windows XP SP2 and later if this setting is set to
Enable.
> Setting it to Prompt doesn't seem to work.

I would expect you to get a line at the top that says that the file has some
activex controls and you need to perform some action.

This is what I get:
"To help protect your security, Internet Explorer has restricted this
webpage
from running scripts or Activex controls that could access your computer.
Click here for options... X"

> Plz see if you/someone can help with this. Do I need windows scripting
host
> to start coding in perl? What am I doing wrong?

All you need to start coding in Perl is an editor and maybe a console window
to run them from. After that you can get into more complicated stuff where
you interact with a browser or the more esoteric Windoze features like
OLE/ODBC
etc.

To start with, go to a console window and type "perl -v" and that should
tell
you if your install is ok and give you the version info. If the Perl tree
didn't get added to your path, you may have to qualify it "c:\perl\bin\perl
-v".




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Re: Perl installation

Rajeev wrote:
> Perl,
> I am running perl version 5.8.8
> I read on: http://support.activestate.com/tags/perl/feed that: "the OLE
> browser will not function with Internet Explorer 7". and I am running IE7
> on my laptop, so I guess I am stuck here.

That's strange, it works for me on MSIE 7 using Perl Build 811.

> The ole browser link was installed by the perl installation program.

You mean a shortcut on your desktop maybe ?

> I was under impression that it was a color coded scripting interface for
> activeperl.

It's a browser to browse the OLE class structures/methods. You may be
thinking of an IDE - like Komodo etc.

> I will try writing some perl code now.

Good idea. :) A decent editor will help - Vim and Emacs are good/free
and there are some decent IDEs out there I'm told.

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Re: hello

I'm not exactly sure what you mean. How are you determining that the
"perl engine is still not working"? An example of the error you are
seeing may make it easier for someone to give you pointers in the
right direction.

On 1/25/07, Rajeev Prasad wrote:
> I recently installed active perl on my windows xp box SP2. but the perl
> engine is not starting, it is giving a hint to change some IE setting at the
> bottom, and i have done that ('enable'd it for intranet security settings).
> but the perl engine is still not working and still giving the same error.
>
> plz. advice.
>
> thank you.
> Rajeev
>
>
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>
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best perl IDE

Hello,

Bill Luebkert, gave me an idea about IDE, while discussing something else.

I was only looking for an editor which allows color-coded editing for perl.
But I guess I can get more, like help with regular expressions etc. also
from these so called 'IDE's.

Can someone please suggest the best free IDE for me to use with perl. Just
one internet search returned many choices and I do not want to experiment
with many IDEs.

Thank you,

Rajeev


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Re: best perl IDE

Rajeev wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Bill Luebkert, gave me an idea about IDE, while discussing something else.
>
> I was only looking for an editor which allows color-coded editing for perl.
> But I guess I can get more, like help with regular expressions etc. also
> from these so called 'IDE's.

Vim and Emacs both do a lot more than editing and color highlighting.
They can do syntax checking, RE searching/replacing, etc.

You can run commands from inside the editor and include the output in
your script, etc.

I use Gvim which is a Win32 version of Vim with a GUI interface. I
think they have a similar GUI version for X-windows and possibly others.

Their forte is editing and I doubt there's a freeware/open source IDE
than can match them, but I'm sure someone will respond if they think so.

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> I was only looking for an editor which allows color-coded editing for
> perl.
> But I guess I can get more, like help with regular expressions etc. also
> from these so called 'IDE's.
>
> Can someone please suggest the best free IDE for me to use with perl. Just
> one internet search returned many choices and I do not want to experiment
> with many IDEs.

Hi Rajeev,

I think you have to resign yourself to *some* experimentation, simply
because not everyone agrees on what the 'best' IDE (or editor) is...there's
a question if you are only on Windows, only on Unix/Linux - or if you want
to have portable skills.

Bill suggests emacs or vi/vim/gvim - probably good choices in many respects,
especially if you want to jump between a Windows and Unix/Linux system and
use the 'same' editor. Personally I'd love to become proficient with Emacs,
but so far I'm having a terrible time of getting rid of the finger dancing
of Windows style cut-n-paste etc...:-(. Still - very capable and completely
free.

Another issue is whether you'll be ok with 'just' an editor or want a 'real'
IDE (i.e. something that also encompasses debugger, build system and all the
other things). It's not quite correct to compare somethink like Eclipse
(definitively an IDE) with, say, emacs - though with a fair amount of extra
work you can customize emacs to become exactly what you want. There are pros
and cons to each.

As a basic but working and capable *editor* I've been using Textpad for many
years (www.textpad.com). It's nowhere near an IDE, nor as customizable like
emacs, but does the job for all my regular text editing jobs, and has
multiple color-coding settings coming with it, including Perl. You can use
the eval for free, but it's cheap to avoid the small nags.

For a full IDE, personally I would at this time look at Eclipse and the EPIC
Perl plugin for it (http://e-p-i-c.sourceforge.net/). As a longtime user of
Eclipse for Java development I'm very comfy with the Eclipse environment and
plugin mechanisms. Here you'll get integrated debugger support, color
coding, code-completion and a bunch of stuff. Very capable, and completely
free.

Something I have never looked at is the Komodo thingie from ActiveState -
may be that's your ticket? Should be capable, considering. Can probably be
evaled free and should be cheap.

Anyway, there's nothing inherently wrong with any of these choices, it's
just a lot of user preferences and circumstances you need to consider. About
the only thing you pretty much can't use is notepad unless you're a true
masochist...:-).

HTH,

ken1

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Re: best perl IDE

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I just think vim/gvim is powerful enough.

On 1/26/07, Kenneth Ölwing wrote:
>
>
> > I was only looking for an editor which allows color-coded editing for
> > perl.
> > But I guess I can get more, like help with regular expressions etc. als=
o
> > from these so called 'IDE's.
> >
> > Can someone please suggest the best free IDE for me to use with perl.
> Just
> > one internet search returned many choices and I do not want to
> experiment
> > with many IDEs.
>
> Hi Rajeev,
>
> I think you have to resign yourself to *some* experimentation, simply
> because not everyone agrees on what the 'best' IDE (or editor)
> is...there's
> a question if you are only on Windows, only on Unix/Linux - or if you wan=
t
> to have portable skills.
>
> Bill suggests emacs or vi/vim/gvim - probably good choices in many
> respects,
> especially if you want to jump between a Windows and Unix/Linux system an=
d
> use the 'same' editor. Personally I'd love to become proficient with
> Emacs,
> but so far I'm having a terrible time of getting rid of the finger dancin=
g
> of Windows style cut-n-paste etc...:-(. Still - very capable and
> completely
> free.
>
> Another issue is whether you'll be ok with 'just' an editor or want a
> 'real'
> IDE (i.e. something that also encompasses debugger, build system and all
> the
> other things). It's not quite correct to compare somethink like Eclipse
> (definitively an IDE) with, say, emacs - though with a fair amount of
> extra
> work you can customize emacs to become exactly what you want. There are
> pros
> and cons to each.
>
> As a basic but working and capable *editor* I've been using Textpad for
> many
> years (www.textpad.com). It's nowhere near an IDE, nor as customizable
> like
> emacs, but does the job for all my regular text editing jobs, and has
> multiple color-coding settings coming with it, including Perl. You can us=
e
> the eval for free, but it's cheap to avoid the small nags.
>
> For a full IDE, personally I would at this time look at Eclipse and the
> EPIC
> Perl plugin for it (http://e-p-i-c.sourceforge.net/). As a longtime user
> of
> Eclipse for Java development I'm very comfy with the Eclipse environment
> and
> plugin mechanisms. Here you'll get integrated debugger support, color
> coding, code-completion and a bunch of stuff. Very capable, and completel=
y
> free.
>
> Something I have never looked at is the Komodo thingie from ActiveState -
> may be that's your ticket? Should be capable, considering. Can probably b=
e
> evaled free and should be cheap.
>
> Anyway, there's nothing inherently wrong with any of these choices, it's
> just a lot of user preferences and circumstances you need to consider.
> About
> the only thing you pretty much can't use is notepad unless you're a true
> masochist...:-).
>
> HTH,
>
> ken1
>
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I just think vim/gvim is powerful enough.

Re: best perl IDE

Hi Rajeev,

It's a mather of taste, there are a bunch of does available.

For me i prefer http://www.jedit.org/ it's a cross platform java
program it works exactly the same on Unix (Linux, Solaris, OpenBsd,
etc) on Windows on Mac Os/X etc.

It's a "simple" editor with many many options such has color-coded
editing for perl, asp, php, c, and more than other 30 different
languages.
It also has a plug in system that allows you to add add extra
funcionality such has remote ftp access, cvs acess, etc.
It's simple in the working but when you explor it you see that it's
very very powerfull.

And yes, it's free open source software.

Miguel Angelo - Migas

2007/1/26, Rajeev :
> Hello,
>
> Bill Luebkert, gave me an idea about IDE, while discussing something else.
>
> I was only looking for an editor which allows color-coded editing for perl.
> But I guess I can get more, like help with regular expressions etc. also
> from these so called 'IDE's.
>
> Can someone please suggest the best free IDE for me to use with perl. Just
> one internet search returned many choices and I do not want to experiment
> with many IDEs.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Rajeev
>
>
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Re: best perl IDE

> I was only looking for an editor which allows color-coded editing for
> perl.
> But I guess I can get more, like help with regular expressions etc. also
> from these so called 'IDE's.
>
> Can someone please suggest the best free IDE for me to use with perl. Just
> one internet search returned many choices and I do not want to experiment
> with many IDEs.

I find emacs works fine for perl. I especially like the debugger. No help
for regex though.

Bill Kamp
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