multi-language user interface for an asp page

Hi all,
I have a good question for you. Our company would like to display
Chinese(either simplifiled or traditional version) for all field labels on
any asp page, but customers can enter text/data in English with any fields.
My question is: do I have to make another copy of the program and just change
the field label from English to Chinese (maintain two copies the programs) or
is there an easy way to do it dynamically in classical asp, so I just need
to maintain one program instead of two?
Betty

Re: multi-language user interface for an asp page

Betty wrote on 27 jan 2007 in
microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general:

> I have a good question for you. Our company would like to display
> Chinese(either simplifiled or traditional version) for all field
> labels on any asp page, but customers can enter text/data in English
> with any fields. My question is: do I have to make another copy of the
> program and just change the field label from English to Chinese
> (maintain two copies the programs) or is there an easy way to do it
> dynamically in classical asp, so I just need to maintain one program

ASP file, not programme, methinks you mean?

> instead of two?
>

microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general/msg/c0cc1d2ebbe4dc9e >

shows how I did this in 2005:

<% =s("Bonjour","Goede morgen","Hi there")%> Betty,

<% =s("Voici mon example","Dit is mijn voorbeeld","Whatsay?")%>

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Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
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Re: multi-language user interface for an asp page

"c676228" wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> I have a good question for you. Our company would like to display
> Chinese(either simplifiled or traditional version) for all field labels on
> any asp page, but customers can enter text/data in English with any
fields.
> My question is: do I have to make another copy of the program and just
change
> the field label from English to Chinese (maintain two copies the programs)
or
> is there an easy way to do it dynamically in classical asp, so I just
need
> to maintain one program instead of two?
> Betty

First step is to convert everything to use UTF-8 encoding.

Second step is to separate as much of the logic in your pages from the code
generating the actual output. Move as much logic into include files.

Third create a anothet set of the 'layout' pages (excluding the new logic
ones) translating the content to the appropriate language.

The problem with attempting to create a 'resource file' of label strings is
that layout often has to change to meet the needs of additional languages
not just the text. At times even graphics which are have obvious meanings
in one culture aren't as effective in another.

If you have managed to separate the layout from the logic then creating and
maintianing a different layout set is no harder than maintaining a set of
label resources.

Maintaining program logic should in the main result in having to make
changes to only one set of pages the logic holding ones.

Anthony.

Re: multi-language user interface for an asp page

Hello Betty,

As Anthony has suggested, if you do not want to use multiple copies of the
same application, you will need to use Unicode(such as UTF-8 charset) for
your ASP pages. Also, since ASP doesn't have built-in localization/resource
featrue as ASP.NET, if you want to display ASP pages which will display
text/literal dynamically based on client's culture/region, you can consider
store those text literal in database and render those text(retrieved from
database) at runtime.

In addition, here are some reference discussing on developing globalized
application(include web application) on microsoft's globaldev portal:

#Get World-Ready
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/getWR/default.mspx

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

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Re: multi-language user interface for an asp page

Anthony and Steven,
Very helpful messages. I think for any new development, we should seperate
logic from all label fields on each asp page if we want to have
multi-language capability.
with Response.CodePage=65001 and Reponse.Charset="utf-8" and store all
labels of different languages in database, then like Steve points out the
labels can be displayed dynamically based on the request.
--
Betty


"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello Betty,
>
> As Anthony has suggested, if you do not want to use multiple copies of the
> same application, you will need to use Unicode(such as UTF-8 charset) for
> your ASP pages. Also, since ASP doesn't have built-in localization/resource
> featrue as ASP.NET, if you want to display ASP pages which will display
> text/literal dynamically based on client's culture/region, you can consider
> store those text literal in database and render those text(retrieved from
> database) at runtime.
>
> In addition, here are some reference discussing on developing globalized
> application(include web application) on microsoft's globaldev portal:
>
> #Get World-Ready
> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/getWR/default.mspx
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Steven Cheng
>
> Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
>
>
>
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Re: multi-language user interface for an asp page

"c676228" wrote in message
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> Anthony and Steven,
> Very helpful messages. I think for any new development, we should seperate
> logic from all label fields on each asp page if we want to have
> multi-language capability.
> with Response.CodePage=65001 and Reponse.Charset="utf-8" and store all
> labels of different languages in database, then like Steve points out the
> labels can be displayed dynamically based on the request.

You need then to take care when designing the layout. What is a short word
in one language may be quite a bit longer in another.

Re: multi-language user interface for an asp page

Anthony,
You are right, maybe we need to have multiple versions of style sheet to
apply to different version of label fields. Thank you so much for your
instruction.
--
Betty


"Anthony Jones" wrote:

>
> "c676228" wrote in message
> news:76836666-04F5-4BAA-9BCD-FE6308B43BC7@microsoft.com...
> > Anthony and Steven,
> > Very helpful messages. I think for any new development, we should seperate
> > logic from all label fields on each asp page if we want to have
> > multi-language capability.
> > with Response.CodePage=65001 and Reponse.Charset="utf-8" and store all
> > labels of different languages in database, then like Steve points out the
> > labels can be displayed dynamically based on the request.
>
> You need then to take care when designing the layout. What is a short word
> in one language may be quite a bit longer in another.
>
>
>