email relay problem

With a correctly configured Thundebird program, I can login to my
college account (myname@mycollege.edu) at the college and reply to all
e-mail sent to me. If I login to that account from home (domain is
rr.nycap.com) I can reply to mail sent from other college addresses,
but if I reply to mail sent to me from non-college addresses, I get
the "server does not relay" error message.

I've read a bit about this, and I understand the stuff about spammers
and open e-mail servers, but I cannot even get onto this server unless
I enter a USERID and password. Shouldn't this keep spammers from
shoveling their stuff through this sever? How would spammers acquire
a valid USERID and password to get onto that system?

I also have a netscape.net account set up so that Thunderbird can be
used to send/receive mail, and I can reply to e-mail sent to me from
any address after I logon to that account. Don't they care about e-
mail relaying spammers?

Again, from home (nycap.rr.com domain) I can log onto my netscape.net
account and reply to all mail; from home I can log onto my
mycollege.edu account and can only reply to mail sent from
mycollege.edu--all others get this "does not relay" message.

I'd like the college servers to be set up like the netscape (aim)
servers. Is it not possible? What would be the most effective
arguments I might use with our computer services?

--jim

Re: email relay problem

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terphenyl writes:

> With a correctly configured Thundebird program, I can login to my
> college account (myname@mycollege.edu) at the college and reply to all
> e-mail sent to me. If I login to that account from home (domain is
> rr.nycap.com) I can reply to mail sent from other college addresses,
> but if I reply to mail sent to me from non-college addresses, I get
> the "server does not relay" error message.

Contact your college's technical support people for help.

> I've read a bit about this, and I understand the stuff about spammers
> and open e-mail servers, but I cannot even get onto this server unless
> I enter a USERID and password. Shouldn't this keep spammers from
> shoveling their stuff through this sever?

You're reading mail from the server. Reading mail is not the same thing as
sending mail. Completely different protocols. If you were paying
attention, when configuring Thunderbird, you should've noticed that you are
asked separately for the name of your outgoing SMTP server, which may or may
not be the same as the name of your incoming mail server.

It might be just that you need to enable authenticated SMTP in Thunderbird.
As I said, contact your college's helpdesk for the exact instructions on
what you need to do.



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Re: email relay problem

On Feb 23, 6:34 pm, Sam wrote:
> terphenyl writes:
> > With a correctly configured Thundebird program, I can login to my
> > college account (myn...@mycollege.edu) at the college and reply to all
> > e-mail sent to me. If I login to that account from home (domain is
> > rr.nycap.com) I can reply to mail sent from other college addresses,
> > but if I reply to mail sent to me from non-college addresses, I get
> > the "server does not relay" error message.
>
> Contact your college's technical support people for help.
>
> > I've read a bit about this, and I understand the stuff about spammers
> > and open e-mail servers, but I cannot even get onto this server unless
> > I enter a USERID and password. Shouldn't this keep spammers from
> > shoveling their stuff through this sever?
>
> You're reading mail from the server. Reading mail is not the same thing as
> sending mail. Completely different protocols. If you were paying
> attention, when configuring Thunderbird, you should've noticed that you are
> asked separately for the name of your outgoing SMTP server, which may or may
> not be the same as the name of your incoming mail server.
>
> It might be just that you need to enable authenticated SMTP in Thunderbird.
> As I said, contact your college's helpdesk for the exact instructions on
> what you need to do.
>
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Yep, reading mail is not the same as sending mail. That's why in the
Thunderbird configurations I already have different server names for
the incoming and outgoing mail.
Thanks for the direction.