another doggone newbie problem:"&&" not short-circuiting like it

another doggone newbie problem:"&&" not short-circuiting like it

am 28.02.2007 16:14:29 von Deane.Rothenmaier

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Gurus,

I'm not really a newbie, I have a few years of Perling, but this one's got
me stumped. I remember that "&&" is supposed to short circuit (skip B
completely in "A && B" if A is false), but in my code it won't. So what's
the deal?


($x eq 'T') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listA );
($x eq 'A') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listB );
($x eq 'B') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listC );


where value_in_list() is a sub that returns TRUE if $u is found in the
list it gets passed, and FALSE otherwise.

I've tried replacing the "eq 'X'" with "=~/X/" and that doesn't help. I
even tried replacing the "&&" with "and". No joy. I still get the sub
entered for each possible value of $x unless the sub returns TRUE on a
previous test. That is, if $x is 'B', the sub gets entered for all three
possibilities, T, A, and B. I think this shouldn't be happening, but it
is (well, was, now I'm using a really ugly if-elsif-elsif). Any hints as
to why my && ain't workin' like it oughta?

TIA,

Deane Rothenmaier
Systems Architect
Walgreens Corp.
847-914-5150

"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr.
Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers
come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of
ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage
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Gurus,



I'm not really a newbie, I have a few years of Perling, but this one's got me stumped. I remember that "&&" is supposed to short circuit (skip B completely in "A && B" if A is false), but in my code it won't. So what's the deal?



<code>

($x eq 'T') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listA );

($x eq 'A') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listB );

($x eq 'B') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listC );

</code>



where value_in_list() is a sub that returns TRUE if $u is found in the list it gets passed, and FALSE otherwise.



I've tried replacing the "eq 'X'" with "=~/X/" and that doesn't help.  I even tried replacing the "&&" with "and".  No joy. I still get the sub entered for each possible value of $x unless the sub returns TRUE on a previous test. That is, if $x is 'B', the sub gets entered for all three possibilities, T, A, and B.  I think this shouldn't be happening, but it is (well, was, now I'm using a really ugly if-elsif-elsif).  Any hints as to why my && ain't workin' like it oughta?



TIA,



Deane Rothenmaier

Systems Architect

Walgreens Corp.

847-914-5150



"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage

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RE: another doggone newbie problem:"&&" not short-circuiting like

am 28.02.2007 16:17:50 von eroode

Dean,

You're going to kick yourself. :-)

> ($x eq 'T') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listA );

This means exactly:

if (value_in_list($u, @listA))
{
($x eq 'T') && next;
}


Eric
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RE: another doggone newbie problem:"&&" not short-circuiting

am 28.02.2007 16:37:55 von Deane.Rothenmaier

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>You're going to kick yourself. :-)
>
>> ($x eq 'T') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listA );
>
>This means exactly:
>
> if (value_in_list($u, @listA))
> {
> ($x eq 'T') && next;
> }


Please to be considering my, er, self, properly kicked! No wonder it
didn't work...

Thanks, nonetheless, for the clarification. Um, by any chance would there
be a way to make it DWIM?

Deane Rothenmaier
Systems Architect
Walgreens Corp.
847-914-5150

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>You're going to kick yourself. :-)

>

>>    ($x eq 'T') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listA );

>

>This means exactly:

>

>    if (value_in_list($u, @listA))

>    {

>        ($x eq 'T') && next;

>    }





Please to be considering my, er, self, properly kicked!  No wonder it didn't work...



Thanks, nonetheless, for the clarification.  Um, by any chance would there be a way to make it DWIM?



Deane Rothenmaier

Systems Architect

Walgreens Corp.

847-914-5150



"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage

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RE: another doggone newbie problem:"&&" not

am 28.02.2007 16:47:50 von Brian Raven

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Subject: RE: another doggone newbie problem:"&&" not
short-circuitinglike itoughta

> >You're going to kick yourself. :-)
> > =

> >> ($x eq 'T') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listA ); =

> >
> >This means exactly:
> > =

> > if (value_in_list($u, @listA))
> > {
> > ($x eq 'T') && next;
> > }
> =

> =

> Please to be considering my, er, self, properly kicked! No wonder it
didn't work... =

> =

> Thanks, nonetheless, for the clarification. Um, by any chance would
there be a way to make it DWIM? =


It's not absolutly clear exactly WYM, but my first guess would be
something like:

($x eq 'T') && value_in_list( $u, @listA ) && next;

Or:

next if ($x eq 'T') && value_in_list( $u, @listA );

HTH

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RE: another doggone newbie problem:"&&" not short-circuiting

am 28.02.2007 16:53:39 von Deane.Rothenmaier

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Found it. Just reverse the order of the tests. Instead of

($x eq 'T') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listA );

use

value_in_list( $u, @listA ) && next if ($x eq 'T');


Can you say "counter-intuitive"???

Thanks for making me turn up the power dial on the ol' thinking cap!

Deane Rothenmaier
Systems Architect
Walgreens Corp.
847-914-5150

"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr.
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Found it. Just reverse the order of the tests. Instead of



    ($x eq 'T') && next if value_in_list( $u, @listA );



use

   

    value_in_list( $u, @listA ) && next if ($x eq 'T');





Can you say "counter-intuitive"???



Thanks for making me turn up the power dial on the ol' thinking cap!



Deane Rothenmaier

Systems Architect

Walgreens Corp.

847-914-5150



"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage

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RE: another doggone newbie problem:"&&" not short-circuiting like it

am 28.02.2007 16:55:24 von Deane.Rothenmaier

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Aha! Another avenue to explore. And much clearer than my second repost.
THANKS!

Deane Rothenmaier
Systems Architect
Walgreens Corp.
847-914-5150

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Aha! Another avenue to explore.  And much clearer than my second repost.  THANKS!



Deane Rothenmaier

Systems Architect

Walgreens Corp.

847-914-5150



"On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage

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