latest screenos 5.4 please

Dear all,

can somebody get the latest netscreen/juniper screenOS (5gt) for me ?
Like 5.3r7 or 5.4r3

Highly appreciated, thanks a lot!
Regards, Samuel

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

Or maybe 6.0.0?
"Samuel b" wrote in message
news:1173605667_2012@sicinfo3.epfl.ch...
> Dear all,
>
> can somebody get the latest netscreen/juniper screenOS (5gt) for me ?
> Like 5.3r7 or 5.4r3
>
> Highly appreciated, thanks a lot!
> Regards, Samuel

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

Hi,

you post schrieb:
> Or maybe 6.0.0?

https://www.juniper.net/siteminder/login.fcc?TYPE=33554433&R EALMOID=06-00021929-7ed7-1fcf-8155-80c822a9000e&GUID=&SMAUTH REASON=0&METHOD=GET&SMAGENTNAME=$SM$orJBLQzmPoF2BzrlXbLqE8ZQ T3RNi40b%2fMh7ytPEU%2bw%3d&TARGET=$SM$https%3a%2f%2fwww%2eju niper%2enet%2fcustomers%2fcsc%2fsoftware%2f

Cheers,
Jens

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

Thanks, but it does NOT work....
It requires a user/pass, allowes to download ONLY the subscribed versions.

If we ask here, this means that juniper site is useless for us. They do not
give away their soft.
Do you have HTTP/FTP/emule/torrent link?


"Jens Hoffmann" wrote in message
news:5dt7f6F36lk0mU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
> Hi,
>
> you post schrieb:
>> Or maybe 6.0.0?
>
> https://www.juniper.net/siteminder/login.fcc?TYPE=33554433&R EALMOID=06-00021929-7ed7-1fcf-8155-80c822a9000e&GUID=&SMAUTH REASON=0&METHOD=GET&SMAGENTNAME=$SM$orJBLQzmPoF2BzrlXbLqE8ZQ T3RNi40b%2fMh7ytPEU%2bw%3d&TARGET=$SM$https%3a%2f%2fwww%2eju niper%2enet%2fcustomers%2fcsc%2fsoftware%2f
>
> Cheers,
> Jens

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:41:48 +0200, you post wrote:
> Thanks, but it does NOT work....
> It requires a user/pass, allowes to download ONLY the subscribed versions.
>
> If we ask here, this means that juniper site is useless for us. They do not
> give away their soft.
> Do you have HTTP/FTP/emule/torrent link?

This is not a warez group. If it's for training purposes I can
sympathize (and advice you to try asking a reseller politely).


- Eirik

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

Hi,

you post schrieb:
> Thanks, but it does NOT work....
> It requires a user/pass, allowes to download ONLY the subscribed versions.

Exactly as intended.

> If we ask here, this means that juniper site is useless for us. They do not
> give away their soft.
> Do you have HTTP/FTP/emule/torrent link?

In short: So you are useless to the society and a thief?

In length: If there is a legitimate reason you will have no problem
getting anthing from a distributor or netscreen directly. Ask them.

If you had the money to buy a not very cheap appliance, and now lack the
money to maintain it, then your management did a serious mistake
(assuming that you use it in a company context, I do not know many
private persons running this kind of gear).

Cheers,
Jens

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

"Jens Hoffmann" wrote in message
news:5e3s94F373d8jU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
> In short: So you are useless to the society and a thief?
>
Thank you very much for your kind words....

> In length: If there is a legitimate reason you will have no problem
> getting anthing from a distributor or netscreen directly. Ask them.
>
I asked. They want more money. Twice as much for the same service.

> If you had the money to buy a not very cheap appliance, and now lack the
> money to maintain it, then your management did a serious mistake
> (assuming that you use it in a company context, I do not know many
> private persons running this kind of gear).

Yes, I already spent much personal money to buy it from another user, and
use it at my private home. And that should be the only expense for a private
user.

Imagine: You buy a used car (jahreswagen), which is pretty new and is still
on manufacturer's warranty (has an ACTIVE service at netscreen). But then
they cancel the warranty, and you are denied the service as a second-hand
buyer, until you pay to renew this warranty (service) again.
This is exactly the case with them.
Next step could be asking for more money, if you change the hostname, for
example, why not?
Just invent new EULA terms for charging the taxes for every breath you
take...

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

Hi,

> I asked. They want more money. Twice as much for the same service.

Tough luck.

> Yes, I already spent much personal money to buy it from another user, and
> use it at my private home.

So talk to the person you have a contract with.


>And that should be the only expense for a private
> user.

Why? You want to have a service contract, but you do not want to pay it,
or forgot to transfer it from the first user.

> Imagine: You buy a used car (jahreswagen), which is pretty new and is still
> on manufacturer's warranty (has an ACTIVE service at netscreen).

A warranty can be as the manufacturer wants it to be. (Do not know your
countr of origin, but somehow I think you know the difference between
"Gewaehrleistung" and "Garantie".

> But then
> they cancel the warranty, and you are denied the service as a second-hand
> buyer, until you pay to renew this warranty (service) again.

Misunderstanding. The rules were not changed.
The seller of the product just didn't tell you.


> This is exactly the case with them.

You have no contract with them yet.

>Next step could be asking for more money, if you change the hostname,
>for example, why not?

They take extra money if you did too many password recoveries. (IIRC).

Cheers,
Jens

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

>> Yes, I already spent much personal money to buy it from another user, and
>> use it at my private home.
>
> So talk to the person you have a contract with.
I do not have a contract. And you cannot find these devices in shops.
Leading firewall manufacturers just don't sell the firewalls to private
customers, they prefer buisnesses....
It was sold "as is", but with active subscription. And he is just a
reseller, and cannot (or does not want to) contact previous owner...
>
>
>>And that should be the only expense for a private
>> user.
>
> Why? You want to have a service contract, but you do not want to pay it,
> or forgot to transfer it from the first user.

I tried to transfer, but by default they ask to buy it again....
Or should I try again?

>
>> Imagine: You buy a used car (jahreswagen), which is pretty new and is
>> still
>> on manufacturer's warranty (has an ACTIVE service at netscreen).
>
> A warranty can be as the manufacturer wants it to be. (Do not know your
> countr of origin, but somehow I think you know the difference between
> "Gewaehrleistung" and "Garantie".

Oh, yes, they are always masters, and we are always slaves and beggars....
I dont need a warranty. I only want to be able to download updates until the
active contract finishes. That's it.

>
>> But then
>> they cancel the warranty, and you are denied the service as a second-hand
>> buyer, until you pay to renew this warranty (service) again.
>
>> This is exactly the case with them.
>
> You have no contract with them yet.

No, I dont really need a contract, only access to firmware updates.
Definition updates already run automatically, this is OK for me.
But if they will transfer the active contract to me, I would be happy.

>
> They take extra money if you did too many password recoveries. (IIRC).

Thanks God, the device is clean and in good condition.

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

Hi,

you post schrieb:
>> So talk to the person you have a contract with.
> I do not have a contract.

So you didn't buy the firewall?
That is a contract.

> It was sold "as is", but with active subscription. And he is just a
> reseller, and cannot (or does not want to) contact previous owner...

Hmm.

> Oh, yes, they are always masters, and we are always slaves and beggars....
> I dont need a warranty. I only want to be able to download updates until the
> active contract finishes. That's it.

I understand what you want, but it is not your contract.

Cheers,
Jens

Re: latest screenos 5.4 please

In article <4683f56f$0$5688$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, youpost@news.com
says...
> I do not have a contract. And you cannot find these devices in shops.
> Leading firewall manufacturers just don't sell the firewalls to private
> customers, they prefer buisnesses....

Yes, they do sell them to individuals and if you don't have a contract
then it was not properly sold to you.

A new support contract is what you need, like it or not, without a
support contract you don't get anything.

Most vendors require a new support contract, it will not transfer to the
new owner.

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