How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" racism

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Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" raci

"Jason" wrote in message
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> In article <1177983915.481609.82510@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Useful
> Info wrote:
>
>> See the presentation via http://Muvy.org
>
> I read an article indicating that millions of Muslims now live in Spain
> and their end goal is to take over that country without having to kill
> anyone. Once over 50 per cent of the population of Spain are Muslims, they
> will be able to vote into office fellow Muslims. It may take about 20 or
> more years but it's my guess that they will eventually have total control
> over Spain. They plan to do the same thing in various other countries.
> They already have taken over a country in Africa called the Sudan. They
> used a different plan in Sudan. They have killed about a million of the
> black people in the Sudan and forced millions of other black people in the
> Sudan to leave the country. I have never heard any of the leaders of black
> people in America even mention what is going on the Sudan.
>
>

....you mean like what the 'Europeans' tried to do to the Americas
(successfully, I might add) and Africa (unsuccessfully)? In our culture,
perhaps they would be called 'missionaries'. :/... and don't tell me that
christian forces in the Americas or Africa didn't slaughter innocent
bystanders... :/

It's simple people... blind faith leads to blind atrocities... simple as
that. Any 'ism' is bad, taken to extremes, our culture included.

....yet more evidence that what is good for the goose isn't good for the
gander.

What makes our 'belief' any better than anybody else's? Our own culture has
a long, long history of similar treatment of other peoples different from
our own. Witness (for just one example), slavery... the economic powerhouse
that built the (southern parts at least) of USA. Or, for another.... the
Spanish Inquisition. Or, yet another... the Crusades of Richard III...

Where I come from, the number of people born 'catholic' is increasing. Does
this mean that catholocism (small C) is a bad thing? By our standards, of
course not. What if the Jews increased their number? Would that be bad? If
we have a standard, it must be applied without predjudice.

It's only when folks follow their faith blindly that bad things happen.
There is nothing inherently wrong with being Muslim. Islamic values are very
similar to our own, christian values.

If you follow the line that Islam is a 'bad' thing, then you must also
accept that Christianity is a 'bad' thing. It's *extremism* that is the bad
thing, not the faith.

Don't get me wrong... I don't support the imposition of anybody's will over
anybody else. It just appears to me that there is a lack of clarity over
what is 'right' or 'wrong' lately...

Sad... History has taught us nothing.

Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" raci

In article <1177983915.481609.82510@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Useful
Info wrote:

> See the presentation via http://Muvy.org

I read an article indicating that millions of Muslims now live in Spain
and their end goal is to take over that country without having to kill
anyone. Once over 50 per cent of the population of Spain are Muslims, they
will be able to vote into office fellow Muslims. It may take about 20 or
more years but it's my guess that they will eventually have total control
over Spain. They plan to do the same thing in various other countries.
They already have taken over a country in Africa called the Sudan. They
used a different plan in Sudan. They have killed about a million of the
black people in the Sudan and forced millions of other black people in the
Sudan to leave the country. I have never heard any of the leaders of black
people in America even mention what is going on the Sudan.

Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" raci

On Apr 30, 8:49 pm, J...@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
> In article <1177983915.481609.82...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Useful
>
> I read an article indicating that millions of Muslims now live in Spain
> and their end goal is to take over that country without having to kill
> anyone.

Well, Muslim people built much of it, so why not?

> Once over 50 per cent of the population of Spain are Muslims, they
> will be able to vote into office fellow Muslims. It may take about 20 or
> more years but it's my guess that they will eventually have total control
> over Spain.

Yeah, dreadful stuff this democracy.

> They plan to do the same thing in various other countries.
> They already have taken over a country in Africa called the Sudan.

You write as if you've only just heard of Sudan. You're quite right,
but a bit behind the times. Muslim people took Sudan over about 500
years ago.

> They
> used a different plan in Sudan. They have killed about a million of the
> black people in the Sudan and forced millions of other black people in the
> Sudan to leave the country.

You appear to be talking about the genocide in Darfur that's been
going on for the last few years. What does genocide committed by one
supposedly Muslim ethnic group against other Muslim ethnic groups have
to do with Muslims "taking over" a country?

> I have never heard any of the leaders of black
> people in America even mention what is going on the Sudan.

Then you need to wash your ears out and listen. I can't imagine how
you've failed to hear them.

Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration andelites" encouraging of minorities" racis

Jason wrote:

> I read an article indicating that millions of Muslims now live in Spain
> and their end goal is to take over that country without having to kill
> anyone. Once over 50 per cent of the population of Spain are Muslims, they
> will be able to vote into office fellow Muslims. It may take about 20 or
> more years but it's my guess that they will eventually have total control
> over Spain.

I somehow think that this would take more than 20 years. Spain's Muslim
population now stands at about 3%. Whatsmore, Spain's immigration rate is
the highest in Europe, with almost half a million immigrants arriving each
year. The majority of these immigrants come from Latin America and the EU.

Whatsmore, the Spain is a monarchy. The King of Spain retains the right to
veto any act of parliament; or to dissolve parliament and call a new
election. The royal family, being Catholics, would likely object to the
establishment of Islam as an official state religion.

That said, Muslims have just as much right to "total control over Spain" as
anyone else does -- particularly taking into account the fact that they
ruled over Spain for hundreds of years before being driven out by the
Christian kingdoms of Castille and Aragon. If you visit Spain, you can
still see many of the Moorish (Islamic) palaces -- I particularly recommend
visiting Aljafería in Zaragoza.

> They already have taken over a country in Africa called the Sudan. They
> used a different plan in Sudan. They have killed about a million of the
> black people in the Sudan and forced millions of other black people in the
> Sudan to leave the country.

Assuming you're writing about the current Darfur conflict, I think you're
misunderstanding the motivations behind it.

Firstly, it is not (primarily) religiously motivated. Islam has been a
popular religion in the Sudan for nearly 700 years -- it's nothing new.

The current conflict is between Arab Muslims and Black African Muslims. If
the Muslims in Sudan wished to strengthen their position, they'd surely be
attacking the southern areas of Sudan, where the majority of the country's
non-Muslim population live -- they wouldn't be attacking fellow Muslims.

Although the conflict appears to have some racial motivation too, the main
reason for the current conflict is that Darfur, an area in the west of the
Sudan wants partial, or even total independence. This is because the people
of Darfur view the Sudanese government as being economically neglectful of
the region.

"About a million of the black people" have not been killed -- the number is
probably closer to 300,000. (Nonetheless that is 300,000 too many!)

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Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" raci

On Tue, 1 May 2007 11:01:21 +0100, Toby A Inkster
wrote:

>Jason wrote:
>
>> I read an article indicating that millions of Muslims now live in Spain
>> and their end goal is to take over that country without having to kill
>> anyone. Once over 50 per cent of the population of Spain are Muslims, they
>> will be able to vote into office fellow Muslims. It may take about 20 or
>> more years but it's my guess that they will eventually have total control
>> over Spain.
>
>I somehow think that this would take more than 20 years. Spain's Muslim
>population now stands at about 3%. Whatsmore, Spain's immigration rate is
>the highest in Europe, with almost half a million immigrants arriving each
>year. The majority of these immigrants come from Latin America and the EU.
>
>Whatsmore, the Spain is a monarchy. The King of Spain retains the right to
>veto any act of parliament; or to dissolve parliament and call a new
>election. The royal family, being Catholics, would likely object to the
>establishment of Islam as an official state religion.

Except of course that when the monarchy was restored there, it was as
a figurehead. All the European monarchies are.
>That said, Muslims have just as much right to "total control over Spain" as
>anyone else does -- particularly taking into account the fact that they
>ruled over Spain for hundreds of years before being driven out by the
>Christian kingdoms of Castille and Aragon. If you visit Spain, you can
>still see many of the Moorish (Islamic) palaces -- I particularly recommend
>visiting Aljafería in Zaragoza.
>
>> They already have taken over a country in Africa called the Sudan. They
>> used a different plan in Sudan. They have killed about a million of the
>> black people in the Sudan and forced millions of other black people in the
>> Sudan to leave the country.
>
>Assuming you're writing about the current Darfur conflict, I think you're
>misunderstanding the motivations behind it.
>
>Firstly, it is not (primarily) religiously motivated. Islam has been a
>popular religion in the Sudan for nearly 700 years -- it's nothing new.
>
>The current conflict is between Arab Muslims and Black African Muslims. If
>the Muslims in Sudan wished to strengthen their position, they'd surely be
>attacking the southern areas of Sudan, where the majority of the country's
>non-Muslim population live -- they wouldn't be attacking fellow Muslims.
>
>Although the conflict appears to have some racial motivation too, the main
>reason for the current conflict is that Darfur, an area in the west of the
>Sudan wants partial, or even total independence. This is because the people
>of Darfur view the Sudanese government as being economically neglectful of
>the region.
>
>"About a million of the black people" have not been killed -- the number is
>probably closer to 300,000. (Nonetheless that is 300,000 too many!)

Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration andelites" encouraging of minorities" racis

Christopher A.Lee wrote:
> Toby A Inkster wrote:
>
>> Whatsmore, the Spain is a monarchy. The King of Spain retains the right
>> to veto any act of parliament; or to dissolve parliament and call a new
>> election.
>
> Except of course that when the monarchy was restored there, it was as a
> figurehead. All the European monarchies are.

That depends very much on your definition of "figurehead". Although it is
true that modern European monarchs very rarely *use* their powers as heads
of state, they do still *have* these powers.

Many of those with written constitutions, including Spain, have the powers
of the monarch officially written into the constitution. In Spain, the
powers mentioned above are the King's constitutional rights.

As it happens, Juan Carlos I, the current King of Spain, has been far more
active in politics than a European monarch would typically be. He was
heavily involved in writing Spain's current constitution, and during the
late 1970s and early 1980s, steered the Spanish political process during
its difficult transition from Franco's dictatorship to the modern democracy
it now is. He was widely credited with thwarting the 1981 military coup
against the elected government.

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On 1 mei, 13:33, Toby A Inkster

> Although it is
> true that modern European monarchs very rarely *use* their powers as heads
> of state, they do still *have* these powers.

perfectley True, Mr. Lobster, and although Prince Philip of Ingland
gave up using his special powers a long time ago he is still able to
leap to the defence of his Country by summoning back his special
powers buy clicking his heels 3 times, upon witch he Becomes
'UltraGreek', capabel of destroying his ennemies with a SIMPLE mixture
of olives and yoggurt!

http://www.littleboxes.nl/MapleSyrupMinerGuy.htm

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Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration andelites" encouraging of minorities" racis

the14thdisciple wrote:

> although Prince Philip of Ingland gave up using his special powers a
> long time ago he is still able to leap to the defence of his Country by
> summoning back his special powers buy clicking his heels 3 times, upon
> witch he Becomes 'UltraGreek', capabel of destroying his ennemies with a
> SIMPLE mixture of olives and yoggurt!

You'd better believe it! (Or else he'll kick your arse.)

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"Toby A Inkster" wrote in message
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Do we really need this shit in alt.html?

I kilfiled the OP and a couple of others. Do I need to killfile you as well?

Take it elsewhere.

Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" raci

On Tue, 1 May 2007 12:33:39 +0100, Toby A Inkster
wrote:

>Christopher A.Lee wrote:
>> Toby A Inkster wrote:
>>
>>> Whatsmore, the Spain is a monarchy. The King of Spain retains the right
>>> to veto any act of parliament; or to dissolve parliament and call a new
>>> election.
>>
>> Except of course that when the monarchy was restored there, it was as a
>> figurehead. All the European monarchies are.
>
>That depends very much on your definition of "figurehead". Although it is
>true that modern European monarchs very rarely *use* their powers as heads
>of state, they do still *have* these powers.

No. Most Americans don't understand the power of precedent.

The Prime Minister (literally "first adviser") has the actual power,
which he derives from parliament. They advise the monarch, who signs
the decisions of parliament into law.

For example in the UK there were three revolutions, and each time the
monarch's power was reduced. Culminating in the Glorious Revolution
where William of Orange was made King under strict conditions of what
the monarchy could or couldn't do.

>Many of those with written constitutions, including Spain, have the powers
>of the monarch officially written into the constitution. In Spain, the
>powers mentioned above are the King's constitutional rights.

And he'll be deposed if he ever tries to use them.

>As it happens, Juan Carlos I, the current King of Spain, has been far more
>active in politics than a European monarch would typically be. He was
>heavily involved in writing Spain's current constitution, and during the
>late 1970s and early 1980s, steered the Spanish political process during
>its difficult transition from Franco's dictatorship to the modern democracy
>it now is. He was widely credited with thwarting the 1981 military coup
>against the elected government.

Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" raci

In article ,
"rf" wrote:

> "Toby A Inkster" wrote in message
> news:j5ljg4-7eq.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk...
>
>
>
> Do we really need this shit in alt.html?
>
> I kilfiled the OP and a couple of others. Do I need to killfile you as well?
>
> Take it elsewhere.


As for TI's contribution, it was clearly the most knowledgeable,
well written and intelligent of all and you would be silly to kf
him.

Allow me to offer myself for killfiling, you sound like you need
more inmates. It would suit me quite well as I am making a tour
and comparative study of killfiles (so far, good old BdeZ's was
the very best for conditions, Ed Seedhouses's the meanest and
barest).

--
dorayme

Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" raci

On 30 Apr 2007 18:45:15 -0700, Useful Info wrote:

>See the presentation via http://Muvy.org

duke, American-American
*****
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Re: How to Destroy America, or a critique of immigration and elites" encouraging of minorities" raci

On 2 mei, 00:06, duke wrote:

> duke, American-American

.... so Good they flamed him twice ...

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