Don"t You Love When

A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
The text does not wrap properly.

They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
Arrg!

Re: Don"t You Love When

On May 3, 1:17 pm, Fred
wrote:
> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
> The text does not wrap properly.
>
> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
> Arrg!

I guess you might try to show the client how the text varies when you
change the screen width. A real format control freak might be more
happy with a pdf format, but they should be aware of the
disadvantages. Or if the client wants no input from you, you can
either suggest another programmer, or say: "That idea is wonderful,
sir. I wish I had thought of it , sir." Then you silently say to
yourself several times: "Lick my (whatever body part seems most
offensive)". I heard of this method from someone in the chemistry
department of a major university. The person in charge of the
storeroom got absolute commands from one well-known professor who
wanted no back talk or discussion from the storeroom help. The old man
in charge of the storeroom used this technique.

Re: Don"t You Love When

"Fred" wrote in message
news:2l9k331qbchb8pp2vp6p2s13h72dt02jm5@4ax.com...
> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
> The text does not wrap properly.
>
> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
> Arrg!


Yeah, its so hilarious when someone hires you to do something that they have
no knowledge of and then asks questions. I usually just roll my eyes and
laugh mockingly. :-P

--Tina

Re: Don"t You Love When

Tina Peters wrote:
> "Fred" wrote in message
> news:2l9k331qbchb8pp2vp6p2s13h72dt02jm5@4ax.com...
>> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
>> The text does not wrap properly.
>>
>> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
>> Arrg!
>
>
> Yeah, its so hilarious when someone hires you to do something that they have
> no knowledge of and then asks questions. I usually just roll my eyes and
> laugh mockingly. :-P

At work we say we will change something, wait a couple of hours and then show
it again to our boss, who most likely will think it looks a lot better, even
if it's exactly the same as before.

--

//Aho

Re: Don"t You Love When

"J.O. Aho" wrote in message
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> Tina Peters wrote:
>> "Fred" wrote in message
>> news:2l9k331qbchb8pp2vp6p2s13h72dt02jm5@4ax.com...
>>> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
>>> The text does not wrap properly.
>>>
>>> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
>>> Arrg!
>>
>>
>> Yeah, its so hilarious when someone hires you to do something that they
>> have
>> no knowledge of and then asks questions. I usually just roll my eyes
>> and
>> laugh mockingly. :-P
>
> At work we say we will change something, wait a couple of hours and then
> show
> it again to our boss, who most likely will think it looks a lot better,
> even
> if it's exactly the same as before.
>

Reminds me of this dilbert comic:

http://dribibu.xs4all.nl/dilbert19951231.html


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Re: Don"t You Love When

On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:17:13 GMT Fred scribed:

> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
> The text does not wrap properly.
>
> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
> Arrg!

Oh come on! If I couldn't explain that within 5 minutes to even the most
irascible of clients, I should be selling ice cream cones!

(Er, unless I was somehow working for dorayme.)

--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Re: Don"t You Love When

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:17:13 GMT Fred scribed:
>
> > A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
> > The text does not wrap properly.
> >
> > They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
> > Arrg!
>
> Oh come on! If I couldn't explain that within 5 minutes to even the most
> irascible of clients, I should be selling ice cream cones!
>
> (Er, unless I was somehow working for dorayme.)

.... in which case you would sit in a chair, not a particularly
comfortable one, in my office for 5 days (Officer White would be
here to stand over you) till you gave up.

--
dorayme

Re: Don"t You Love When

"Neredbojias" wrote in message
news:Xns9925BC4DF13F5nanopandaneredbojias@208.49.80.251...
> On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:17:13 GMT Fred scribed:
>
>> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
>> The text does not wrap properly.
>>
>> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
>> Arrg!
>
> Oh come on! If I couldn't explain that within 5 minutes to even the most
> irascible of clients, I should be selling ice cream cones!
>
[snip]

....ah yes, but explaining is one thing, understanding is another...

Re: Don"t You Love When

On Fri, 04 May 2007 03:01:23 GMT asdf scribed:

>
> "Neredbojias" wrote in message
> news:Xns9925BC4DF13F5nanopandaneredbojias@208.49.80.251...
>> On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:17:13 GMT Fred scribed:
>>
>>> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
>>> The text does not wrap properly.
>>>
>>> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
>>> Arrg!
>>
>> Oh come on! If I couldn't explain that within 5 minutes to even the
>> most irascible of clients, I should be selling ice cream cones!
>>
> [snip]
>
> ...ah yes, but explaining is one thing, understanding is another...

Well, I'll admit that showmanship may play a part in the scope of
credibility. Tell ya what, next time a client makes an inane suggestion,
laugh like a chimpanzee for at least 5 minutes. That'll get his attention.

--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Re: Don"t You Love When

"Neredbojias" wrote in message
news:Xns9927B83829812nanopandaneredbojias@208.49.80.251...
> On Fri, 04 May 2007 03:01:23 GMT asdf scribed:
>
>>
>> "Neredbojias" wrote in message
>> news:Xns9925BC4DF13F5nanopandaneredbojias@208.49.80.251...
>>> On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:17:13 GMT Fred scribed:
>>>
>>>> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
>>>> The text does not wrap properly.
>>>>
>>>> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
>>>> Arrg!
>>>
>>> Oh come on! If I couldn't explain that within 5 minutes to even the
>>> most irascible of clients, I should be selling ice cream cones!
>>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> ...ah yes, but explaining is one thing, understanding is another...
>
> Well, I'll admit that showmanship may play a part in the scope of
> credibility. Tell ya what, next time a client makes an inane suggestion,
> laugh like a chimpanzee for at least 5 minutes. That'll get his
> attention.
>
> --
> Neredbojias
> He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

....actually, I recently had first-hand experience of a very similar problem
client. Thank God that one's in the can. I have since discovered his
*extremely* high staff turnover due to his willfully argumentative nature,
and stoic refusal to accept 'bleeding obvious' facts... so, you see, clients
like that *do* exist, and in those circumstances, much better to withdraw
gracefully than to waste hours and days messing about trying to prove to
them that their idea is dumb...

Re: Don"t You Love When

On Sun, 06 May 2007 04:25:46 GMT asdf scribed:

>>> ...ah yes, but explaining is one thing, understanding is another...
>>
>> Well, I'll admit that showmanship may play a part in the scope of
>> credibility. Tell ya what, next time a client makes an inane
>> suggestion, laugh like a chimpanzee for at least 5 minutes. That'll
>> get his attention.
>>
>> --
>> Neredbojias
>> He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.
>
> ...actually, I recently had first-hand experience of a very similar
> problem client. Thank God that one's in the can. I have since
> discovered his *extremely* high staff turnover due to his willfully
> argumentative nature, and stoic refusal to accept 'bleeding obvious'
> facts... so, you see, clients like that *do* exist, and in those
> circumstances, much better to withdraw gracefully than to waste hours
> and days messing about trying to prove to them that their idea is
> dumb...

Yeah, you're undoubtedly right. I recall times of trying to convince
stubborn people of the most obvious facts while they simply refuse to see
the light. Can be rather frustrating, particularly when the antagonist is
"down under" in more ways than one.

--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Re: Don"t You Love When

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Fred
writing in
news:2l9k331qbchb8pp2vp6p2s13h72dt02jm5@4ax.com:

> A client tells you to insert line breaks into a document because
> The text does not wrap properly.
>
> They don't understand that text size is a unkown variable
> Arrg!

I was quite pleased today when my boss said she understood that when I
moved a particular object that it would not look the same because it would
be out of the cascade. A long time ago, I would have had to put it in
tables and hard coded it - she's becoming enlightened!

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