CSS: lower Greek list type?

Why, if there are:

upper-roman
lower-roman and
lower-greek

list style types, is there no list-style-type: upper-greek in CSS?
And, is there one in the CSS3 draft?

Re: lower Greek list type?

Scripsit Marcellus:

> Why, if there are:
>
> upper-roman
> lower-roman and
> lower-greek
>
> list style types, is there no list-style-type: upper-greek in CSS?

If that's your question, why does the Subject line say "lower Greek list
type"?

Anyway, the explanation is that in texts in Latin letters, people have
sometimes used lowercase Greek letters for numbering things, but not
uppercase. I'd expect the Greek to use uppercase Greek letters for the
purpose, just as we use uppercase Latin letters, but CSS isn't really very
"internationalized": it reflects styling traditions in English-language
documents more than anything else, with casual "foreign" options thrown in.

> And, is there one in the CSS3 draft?

Well, you _could_ look at it yourself:
http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-lists/#alphabetic
It's been in the CSS 3 Lists draft for over five years. Yet, the draft
hasn't progressed in the "standardization" path, and in principle, it might
change while I'm writing this message. After all, the draft itself says:
"This is a working draft and may therefore be updated, replaced or rendered
obsolete by other W3C documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use W3C
Working Drafts as reference material or to cite them as other than "work in
progress"."

What's far more important for most practical purposes, IE doesn't (even in
IE 7) support even lower-greek. Don't ask me why; the implementation should
be fairly trivial.

If you want to use Greek letters (lowercase or uppercase) as list markers,
use

or
with list-style-type: none and with the letters written as
list item content, e.g.

1. α. bla bla bla

or even

2. α bla bla bla

so that you can style the markers if desired (you know, different color
etc.).

--
Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/

Re: lower Greek list type?

On 2007-05-22, Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> Scripsit Marcellus:
>
>> Why, if there are:
>>
>> upper-roman
>> lower-roman and
>> lower-greek
>>
>> list style types, is there no list-style-type: upper-greek in CSS?
>
> If that's your question, why does the Subject line say "lower Greek list
> type"?
>
> Anyway, the explanation is that in texts in Latin letters, people have
> sometimes used lowercase Greek letters for numbering things, but not
> uppercase. I'd expect the Greek to use uppercase Greek letters for the
> purpose, just as we use uppercase Latin letters

Yes, they are used like that. Books of Homer for example are numbered
"A", "B", "G(amma)" ... up to Omega and in many editions these numbers
are written at the top of each page in capital Greek letters.

You wouldn't put each book in its own

Re: CSS: lower Greek list type?

On Tue, 22 May 2007 00:05:54 GMT Marcellus scribed:

> Why, if there are:
>
> upper-roman
> lower-roman and
> lower-greek
>
> list style types, is there no list-style-type: upper-greek in CSS?

They considered it to be too controversial.

> And, is there one in the CSS3 draft?

Well, I tried reading that one time but it was excessively windy.

--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.