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chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:

> For anyone that might some here to ask, I have a simple three-word answer:
>
> subscription anonymity service


And I have a very big question: Do they allow anonymous subscription and
anonymous usage?

> Because of the way that some of the more sophisticated P2P proxing
> services work, IT admins will be playing "whack a mole" trying to stop
> it, because it uses multiple addresses and multiple ports all over the
> place. As such services grow in popularity, it will drive corporate
> network admins INSANE trying to stop it.

Bullshit. Implement a global no-exec policy and none of the required client
software will be running.

Re: Subscription Anonymity Services

On Jun 5, 8:07 am, "Sebastian G." wrote:
> chil...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > For anyone that might some here to ask, I have a simple three-word answer:
>
> > subscription anonymity service
>
> And I have a very big question: Do they allow anonymous subscription and
> anonymous usage?


You would not want to do anything that violates U.S. laws, they
still keep some information that law enforcement can get with a
warrant. These services are meant for you to be able to surf what you
want from work or school, without being detected, NOT to break any
U.S. laws (the company I use is located in Tarzana, California).
Basically, THEY know what you are up to, but your BOSS does NOT.
>
> > Because of the way that some of the more sophisticated P2P proxing
> > services work, IT admins will be playing "whack a mole" trying to stop
> > it, because it uses multiple addresses and multiple ports all over the
> > place. As such services grow in popularity, it will drive corporate
> > network admins INSANE trying to stop it.
>
> Bullshit. Implement a global no-exec policy and none of the required client
> software will be running.


Well, I sometimes log into the service just to see what corporate and
educational networks are logged on, and you would not believe it. I
scroll through the available P2P nodes, and find many corporate
networks connected to the P2P proxy networik. Corporate networks that
have connected through my node (when I am logged on) innclude:

Alkane Energy, Nottingham, England
Abbott Laboratories, Chicago, Illinois
SmarterDeals.com, Fremont, California (a site that sells clearance
items at DEEP discounts)
Quantico Marine Corps Base, Quantico, Virginia (probably some Marine
trying to circumvent the new military policy against listening to
streaming audio)
Mission Carmichael Healthcare, Carmicheal California (someone at one
of the nursing stations in that nursing home obviously likes Live 365
stations a LOT)
Washington Mutual Bank Sacramento-Arden Branch, Sacramento, California
(somoene there LOVES 80s music)
Bob Jones University, Greenville, South Carolina (probably some
student trying to circumvent the STRICT filtering regime there)


The admins at these instirution will know that someone made an
encrypted connection to the P2P proxy network, but there is no
POSSIBLE way that the admins will know WHERE they went to BEYOND my
node on the network.


In fact, I just read from one guy, as I was writting this, who
watches French Open tennis from work, via his home computer, and super
high speed DSL line. He just logs into a site known as LogMeIn, then
connects to his DSL modem at home, and then goes out through his home
PC. Even though his employer restricts access to ports 21, 80, and
443, he can still connect to the LogMeIn site, via port 80, and then
connect to the ESPN and/or Tennis Channel free streams of the French
Open. The boss knows he is making an encrypted streaming connection at
400K, to LogMeIn, and to his home computer, but there is no POSSIBLE
way the boss can know what he is up to.

Re: Subscription Anonymity Services

On Jun 5, 5:13 pm, chil...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 5, 8:07 am, "Sebastian G." wrote:
>
> > chil...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > For anyone that might some here to ask, I have a simple three-word answer:
>
> > > subscription anonymity service
>
> > And I have a very big question: Do they allow anonymous subscription and
> > anonymous usage?
>
> You would not want to do anything that violates U.S. laws, they
> still keep some information that law enforcement can get with a
> warrant. These services are meant for you to be able to surf what you
> want from work or school, without being detected, NOT to break any
> U.S. laws (the company I use is located in Tarzana, California).
> Basically, THEY know what you are up to, but your BOSS does NOT.
>
>
>
> > > Because of the way that some of the more sophisticated P2P proxing
> > > services work, IT admins will be playing "whack a mole" trying to stop
> > > it, because it uses multiple addresses and multiple ports all over the
> > > place. As such services grow in popularity, it will drive corporate
> > > network admins INSANE trying to stop it.
>
> > Bullshit. Implement a global no-exec policy and none of the required client
> > software will be running.
>
> Well, I sometimes log into the service just to see what corporate and
> educational networks are logged on, and you would not believe it. I
> scroll through the available P2P nodes, and find many corporate
> networks connected to the P2P proxy networik. Corporate networks that
> have connected through my node (when I am logged on) innclude:
>
> Alkane Energy, Nottingham, England
> Abbott Laboratories, Chicago, Illinois
> SmarterDeals.com, Fremont, California (a site that sells clearance
> items at DEEP discounts)
> Quantico Marine Corps Base, Quantico, Virginia (probably some Marine
> trying to circumvent the new military policy against listening to
> streaming audio)
> Mission Carmichael Healthcare, Carmicheal California (someone at one
> of the nursing stations in that nursing home obviously likes Live 365
> stations a LOT)
> Washington Mutual Bank Sacramento-Arden Branch, Sacramento, California
> (somoene there LOVES 80s music)
> Bob Jones University, Greenville, South Carolina (probably some
> student trying to circumvent the STRICT filtering regime there)
>
> The admins at these instirution will know that someone made an
> encrypted connection to the P2P proxy network, but there is no
> POSSIBLE way that the admins will know WHERE they went to BEYOND my
> node on the network.
>
> In fact, I just read from one guy, as I was writting this, who
> watches French Open tennis from work, via his home computer, and super
> high speed DSL line. He just logs into a site known as LogMeIn, then
> connects to his DSL modem at home, and then goes out through his home
> PC. Even though his employer restricts access to ports 21, 80, and
> 443, he can still connect to the LogMeIn site, via port 80, and then
> connect to the ESPN and/or Tennis Channel free streams of the French
> Open. The boss knows he is making an encrypted streaming connection at
> 400K, to LogMeIn, and to his home computer, but there is no POSSIBLE
> way the boss can know what he is up to.

Are you retarded?

1) No-one here cares about your shilling for your crappy site.
2) You boast about anonymity then post users locations on the
internet. See anything dumb about that?
3) "The admins at these instirution will know that someone made an
encrypted connection to the P2P proxy network", "The boss knows he is
making an encrypted streaming connection at 400K, to LogMeIn, and to
his home computer"
And it's goodbye from you. Either of these combined with a standard
AUP is enough to can an employee. There's no valid reason for an
employee to be doing either at work in 99.999% of circumstances.

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chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:


> 2. This services allows you to surf the net where your activities
> cannot be monitored, analyssed, cracked, or sniffed.


Except by the servicer himself! You should really wonder how rerouting all
your traffic over one single node should increase and not decrease anonymity.

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On Jun 5, 7:49 am, chil...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> There have been some questions in the tennis newsgroups about how
> to watch the French Open (and the upcoming Wimbledon tourament)
> without being detected. For anyone that might some here to ask, I
> have a simple three-word answer:
>
> subscription anonymity service


I just happened to investigate why I was getting a HUGE spike in
total listening hours (TLH) from Canada, and I found out why. Some guy
in Fernie, British Columbia, has set up his own "relay" to every Live
365 station. This is the best way YET to fool the boss, if you want to
listen to Live 365 stations. This guy's server is NOT on any
"blackists" or the major filtering software vendors, so you will be
able to access his server in almost ANY workplace, worldwide.
And since whoever this guy is, is also a Live 365 VIP subscriber,
he has somehow rigged his server up, so that when you "bounce" off his
server, not ONLY do you put one over on the boss, but your favourite
Live 365 DJs get "VIP rewards", which are bascially a discount off the
next bill that comes due. So using this relay, you both fool the boss
AND support your favourite Live 365 DJ. I will not post the link here,
since I do NOT want any of the filter software vendors to know about
it. But if you find it, you will find it quite usefful, as you will
both fool the boss, and support your favourite Live 365 DJs with VIP
rewards points.
The boss will know that you connected to someone's residential DSL
connetion in Fernie, British Columbia, but they will have no CLUE as
to what you are up to, since the connection is being relayed off this
guy's residential DSL connection, in Fernie, BC, to and from Live
365. The ONLY thing the boss will know is that you were bouncing off a
machine in Fernie, Canada, but that is IT. It effectively bypasses
filtering of Live 365 on ALL the major filter software vendors.

Re: Subscription Anonymity Services

chilly8@hotmail.com wrote:
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>
>
>
> There have been some questions in the tennis newsgroups about how
> to watch the French Open (and the upcoming Wimbledon tourament)
> without being detected. For anyone that might some here to ask, I
> have a simple three-word answer:
>
>
> subscription anonymity service
>
>
> These services that are sprouting up like weeds effectively make
> even the best firewall solutions moot. Whether you are tuning in to
> us, or one of our competitors, all you have to do is subscribe to the
> service, and usually download a small piece of software to your
> computer. Unless open relays, "free" anonymity services (like Tor), or
> using someone's misconfigured proxy server, these services provide
> much more stable connections, that will not constantly re-buffer, and
> that are also virtually undetectable. Many services, including the one
> I subscribe to now, also offer encryption through the proxy network.
> That means, if you want to watch/listen to French Open tennis, the
> boss will not know what you are up to, becuase many services have
> their own proprietary encryption algorithms, which cannot be
> compromised via "man in the middle" attacks.
> Because of the way that some of the more sophisticated P2P proxing
> services work, IT admins will be playing "whack a mole" trying to stop
> it, because it uses multiple addresses and multiple ports all over the
> place. As such services grow in popularity, it will drive corporate
> network admins INSANE trying to stop it.
>
I guess I am confused...Why would you not want to be "DETECTED" for
watching Tennis. Is this so you don't have to pay for it, or what? I
can understand hiding from authorities if you are watching "KIDDIE PORN"
or planning bombing plots, but what harm would come from being detected
watching Tennis? Is there "TENNIS POLICE" that would want arrest you if
you suddenly got a better backhand? I understand about arrest warrents,
and gov't survelience, but TENNIS??????? WTF!!!!!

Re: Subscription Anonymity Services

On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:55:41 -0700, The Computer Dood wrote:


>>
> I guess I am confused...Why would you not want to be "DETECTED" for
> watching Tennis. Is this so you don't have to pay for it, or what? I
> can understand hiding from authorities if you are watching "KIDDIE PORN"
> or planning bombing plots, but what harm would come from being detected
> watching Tennis? Is there "TENNIS POLICE" that would want arrest you if
> you suddenly got a better backhand? I understand about arrest warrents,
> and gov't survelience, but TENNIS??????? WTF!!!!!

Nobody cares about that; IF you watch it at home.
IF you do the same at work ... you are wasting time and resources of
the company you are "working" for.
Some companies tolerate it some other can and will fire you for the same
few minutes of Tennis. Depends on your contract and security policy.

Personaly, i would fire people who try to do anything over encription that
is not work related. I don't know if they are giving away secrets!

I also know how to configure a firewall in a way, so you can only go to
places you are allowed to go. You try to circumvent that, and you might
find yourself out on the street faster than you can say "Ooops"!

P.S.
We have only one Terminal/PC with high restrictions ...
All I filter for is "kiddie porn" and some "malware sites"!
Wifi users have some ports closed to avoid all P2P connections
and other ways to spread malware (or waste bandwith).

Users with unusual high activity will be "observed" ...
(Mostly some "missbehaving malware"!)

Re: Subscription Anonymity Services

On Jun 8, 12:55 pm, God Rudy wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:55:41 -0700, The Computer Dood wrote:
>
> > I guess I am confused...Why would you not want to be "DETECTED" for
> > watching Tennis. Is this so you don't have to pay for it, or what? I
> > can understand hiding from authorities if you are watching "KIDDIE PORN"
> > or planning bombing plots, but what harm would come from being detected
> > watching Tennis? Is there "TENNIS POLICE" that would want arrest you if
> > you suddenly got a better backhand? I understand about arrest warrents,
> > and gov't survelience, but TENNIS??????? WTF!!!!!
>
> Nobody cares about that; IF you watch it at home.
> IF you do the same at work ... you are wasting time and resources of
> the company you are "working" for.
> Some companies tolerate it some other can and will fire you for the same
> few minutes of Tennis. Depends on your contract and security policy.


I am not the only one out there that wants to help people avoid
being detected by the boss. As I already mentioned in another posts,
there is some guy up in Canada that has his own server that is acting
as a relay for every Live 365 station. And since his server is not
currently in the lists of any of the major filtering vendors, most
workplaces would be able to get Live 365, by way of his server. And
since he has it rigged up somehow though his Live 365 VIP subscrption,
not only do you fool the boss by going through his server, but you
support your favourite Live 365 DJ as well trhough the "VIP Rewards"
system. The server is run out of Fernie, BC, Canada. The boss will
know you made a connection to his server in Canada, but will have NO
CLUE that you were REALLY going to Live 365.
I discovered this when I was investigating why I was seeing a huge
spike in total listening hours (TLH) from Canada, and I soon found out
this guy is running a relay service out of Canada to allow people to
listen to Live 365 from work, and he does it himself, so his boss will
never know what he is up to.

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"Chilly8" wrote in message
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> Contrary to what some people might think, bypassing geolocation
> restrictions does NOT violate ANY laws in either the U.S. or
> the U.K., if you use an subscription anonymity service to do
> it.


That is not true.
>
> I know the same service was often used to listen to me from
> workplaces worldwide. At least my IP trick still works and
> lets people listen from many workplaces without having to
> use any proxies.

The only trick you have, is that you display that you are a clueless idiot.

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