Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
Less than impressed:
http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to be the
file menu open.
AWESUM GUYS!
On Jun 11, 7:11 pm, "Nik Coughlin"
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed:
>
> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>
> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to be the
> file menu open.
I didn't have *that* problem, but I did experience the browser
crashing or hanging several times over a fairly brief trial of it. I
think they've still got a lot of bugs to work out.
--
Dan
Nik Coughlin wrote:
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed:
>
> AWESUM GUYS!
*awesome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_cycle#Beta
Dan wrote:
> On Jun 11, 7:11 pm, "Nik Coughlin"
>> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>>
>> Less than impressed:
>>
>> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>>
>> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to be the
>> file menu open.
>
> I didn't have *that* problem, but I did experience the browser
> crashing or hanging several times over a fairly brief trial of it. I
> think they've still got a lot of bugs to work out.
>
I found it unusable here:
Title bar doesn't behave like Windows titlebars do, hence unable to
shade Safari.
Can only resize using lower right corner of window. This is a problem as
the Safari window initialised at more than full screen.
When maximised Safari suppresses the taskbar if you have this set to
autohide.
In XP Tablet Edition, no TIP available for text input. In fact, pretty
well unusable on a tablet PC.
Opened 3 tabs, after about 5 minutes of use it froze.
Looked quite good while it lasted, though; not particularly quick but
worth a look. More choice is good. Maybe the Linux version will be better?
In article <466dd690$1@clear.net.nz>, nrkn.com@gmail.com says...
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed:
>
> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>
> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to be the
> file menu open.
>
> AWESUM GUYS!
>
>
>
Works perfectly on my XP machine for over an hour now. So far, I like
it.
On Jun 11, 6:11 pm, "Nik Coughlin"
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed
I figure a few windows users (ie. eBay bidders) are interested in the
twice-as-fast page load speed that Safari boasts over internet
explorer.
http://www.apple.com/safari/
The other big announcement today was 64-bit Mac OS X Leopard releasing
in October (that natively runs windows & vista) will have a new Finder
with a "Cover Flow" view of your files (like iTunes) and a new dock
with icon stacks.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/
WWDC 2007 Keynote Address
http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/d7625zs/event/
Brett
http://seowebmarket.com
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:46:31 -0700, "SEOwebMarket.com"
>On Jun 11, 6:11 pm, "Nik Coughlin"
>> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>>
>> Less than impressed
>
>I figure a few windows users (ie. eBay bidders) are interested in the
>twice-as-fast page load speed that Safari boasts over internet
>explorer.
Didn't see any great improvements. But perhaps pages on my site are
fast rendering anyway?
Other than that, it comes across to me as "just another gui browser".
No need to change.
Matt
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"Nik Coughlin"
news:466dd690$1@clear.net.nz:
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed:
>
> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>
> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to
> be the file menu open.
>
> AWESUM GUYS!
I just downloaded it, but haven't installed it.
However, this is the second time I've heard someone comment on missing
text.
I'm beginning to think maybe I shouldn't bother until it is out of beta...
--
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http://www.karlcore.com/cms/id/domains-for-sale/
http://www.thehotrodclassifieds.com
http://www.grayscalecms.com
http://www.karlcore.com
"Nik Coughlin"
news:466dd690$1@clear.net.nz...
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed:
>
> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>
> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to be
> the file menu open.
>
> AWESUM GUYS!
>
Just another Browser to test on. Call me lame, but I'm sticking with IE7
--
Paul Watt
http://www.paulwattdesigns.com
And lo, paul watt didst speak in alt.html,alt.www.webmaster,nz.comp:
[snip:Safari on windows]
> Just another Browser to test on. Call me lame,
You're lame. [1]
> but I'm sticking with IE7
As a designer, you would be wise to use a browser which supports the
latest and greatest web technologies and specifications, so you can learn
them well in advance of IE's slowly increasing support for them. Things
such as SVG, CSS3, and canvas, which are due to radically change the way
the web looks once IE catches up.
Sure you can wait until there is widespread browser support before
learning these things, but by then so many developers will be ahead of
you, you will need to play catch up.
I know how you feel. IE feels nice, and displays pages the way you think
they should be displayed. But its lack of support for new technologies
cripples it as a developer learning tool, if nothing else.
Grey
[1] Don't blame me, you asked for it.
--
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pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
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spider and site-search engine
Nik Coughlin wrote:
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed:
>
> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>
> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to
> be the file menu open.
>
> AWESUM GUYS!
Found at http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=992780&tst art=0
How to make Safari work:
> 1. Copy the Lucida Grande font files to the \Windows\Fonts directory.
> 2. Rename the Safari.resources folder to something else.
> 3. Try to start Safari, get an error message, and dismiss the message.
> 4. Name Safari.resources back to its original name.
> 5. Start Safari.
The fonts are in \Program Files\Safari\Safari.resources.
Now that it's working I am a little more impressed :)
On Jun 12, 11:11 am, "Nik Coughlin"
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed:
>
> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>
> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to be the
> file menu open.
>
> AWESUM GUYS!
I downloaded it last night at home and used it there, worked well -
and on a Windows 2000 machine despite the fact that it is only
supposed to work with XP :-)
I'm happy
And it gives me another browser to test in
Regards
Peter Jenkins
see http://www.sensiblesentencing.org.nz
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:22:08 GMT Nik Coughlin scribed:
> Found at
> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=992780&tst art=0
>
> How to make Safari work:
>
>> 1. Copy the Lucida Grande font files to the \Windows\Fonts directory.
>> 2. Rename the Safari.resources folder to something else.
>> 3. Try to start Safari, get an error message, and dismiss the
>> message. 4. Name Safari.resources back to its original name.
>> 5. Start Safari.
>
> The fonts are in \Program Files\Safari\Safari.resources.
Uh, I think I'll wait for the full release version.
> Now that it's working I am a little more impressed :)
I was impressed by IE5.
--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.
Nik Coughlin wrote:
> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>
> Less than impressed:
>
> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>
> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to be
> the file menu open.
>
> AWESUM GUYS!
Apparently the big new feature people are raving about is the ability to rip
a tab off an create a new instance of safari with said tab
Sounds like a good idea, I cannot wait until IE clones it
--
Q: What is the difference between a mathematician and a philosopher?
A: The mathematician only needs paper, pencil, and a trash bin for his
work - the philosopher can do without the trash bin...
"Nik Coughlin"
>Nik Coughlin wrote:
>> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>>
>> Less than impressed:
>>
>> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>>
>> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to
>> be the file menu open.
>>
>> AWESUM GUYS!
>
>Found at http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=992780&tst art=0
>
>How to make Safari work:
>
>> 1. Copy the Lucida Grande font files to the \Windows\Fonts directory.
>> 2. Rename the Safari.resources folder to something else.
>> 3. Try to start Safari, get an error message, and dismiss the message.
>> 4. Name Safari.resources back to its original name.
>> 5. Start Safari.
>
>The fonts are in \Program Files\Safari\Safari.resources.
>
>Now that it's working I am a little more impressed :)
>
Well that screwed up my Win2K install. Now there are no fonts.
Removed them from the winnt\fonts\ uninstalled safari and rebooted
PC. Reinstalled Safari and screwed . Still no fonts at all.
Shane wrote:
> Nik Coughlin wrote:
>
>> Just download the Safari for XP beta from Apple.
>>
>> Less than impressed:
>>
>> http://nrkn.com/temp/safariXp.jpg
>>
>> Where's all the text gone? In the screenshot I have what I assume to
>> be the file menu open.
>>
>> AWESUM GUYS!
>
> Apparently the big new feature people are raving about is the ability
> to rip a tab off an create a new instance of safari with said tab
>
> Sounds like a good idea, I cannot wait until IE clones it
>
You've been able to do that in Konqueror for quite a while. Is this new
in Safari or has it been around a similar amount of time?
--
Chris Hope | www.electrictoolbox.com | www.linuxcdmall.com
Chris Hope wrote:
> You've been able to do that in Konqueror for quite a while. Is this new
> in Safari or has it been around a similar amount of time?
>
I never knew that
--
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raises his hand and asks: "Will we ever need this stuff in real life?"
The professor gently smiles at him and says: "Of course not - if your real
life will consist of flipping hamburgers at MacDonald's!"
Chris Hope wrote:
> You've been able to do that in Konqueror for quite a while. Is this new
> in Safari or has it been around a similar amount of time?
>
3 seconds after I hit send on my last reply I remember that this effect has
been a feature of Konsole, or xTerm for at least three years (damn its been
a while since I was using slackware :'()
I only mention slackware because that was where I first discovered that
feature of xterm/konsole (and I havent used slack since I got the hang of
Kubuntu)
--
Q: What is often used by Canadians to help solve certain differential
equations?
A: the Lacrosse transform.
In article
Shane
> Q: What is the difference between a mathematician and a philosopher?
> A: The mathematician only needs paper, pencil, and a trash bin for his
> work - the philosopher can do without the trash bin...
.... and the paper and pencil... the Rodin sculpture should give
you the idea...
--
dorayme
In article <466f78f6@news.orcon.net.nz>,
Chris Hope
> > Apparently the big new feature people are raving about is the ability
> > to rip a tab off an create a new instance of safari with said tab
>
> You've been able to do that in Konqueror for quite a while. Is this new
> in Safari or has it been around a similar amount of time?
Yes, it must be new.
--
dorayme
On Jun 12, 11:47 pm, Shane
> Apparently the big new feature people are raving about is the ability to rip
> a tab off an create a new instance of safari with said tab
I've been using Safari since it's release four years ago; it was a bit
buggy in it's beta. Safari's inter-functionality with my other apps
like dictionary and spellchecker are unbeatable (not to mention:
secure).
I've been using tabs to increase production and it works well. The
new deal with the tabs is that you can REARRANGE them (in addition to
breaking one off into its own window).
This ought to be interesting though. Keep in mind that Macs don't get
viruses nor spyware; it might be the first time that Apple software
reels in a virus (but will still need ms to activate it).
Brett
http://seowebmarket.com
On 2007-06-13, Chris Hope
> You've been able to do that in Konqueror for quite a while. Is this new
> in Safari or has it been around a similar amount of time?
safari shares a lot of code with konqueror.
Bye.
Jasen
Jasen wrote:
> On 2007-06-13, Chris Hope
>
>> You've been able to do that in Konqueror for quite a while. Is this
>> new in Safari or has it been around a similar amount of time?
>
> safari shares a lot of code with konqueror.
Correct, but I suspect that's mainly to do with the html rendering than
the gui.
--
Chris Hope | www.electrictoolbox.com | www.linuxcdmall.com
SEOwebMarket.com wrote:
>
> This ought to be interesting though. Keep in mind that Macs don't get
> viruses nor spyware; it might be the first time that Apple software
> reels in a virus (but will still need ms to activate it).
OT: macs are as vulnerable as any windoze or linux box to viruses or
spyware. Some say that OS X is even unsafer than windows vista (e.g.
concerning buffer overlow-issues).
BTW the first big security holes in safari were just discovered hours
after the release by Apple. The problem is, that most mac-users do not
care about security issues, because they think they are not affected by it.
see:
http://larholm.com/2007/06/12/safari-for-windows-0day-exploi t-in-2-hours/
and
http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2007/06/niiiice.html
cheers
bernhard
--
www.daszeichen.ch
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SEOwebMarket.com wrote:
>
> The new deal with the tabs is that you can REARRANGE them
That's been a feature of mozilla browsers for a long time now.
--
Berg
On Jun 12, 10:47 pm, Shane
> Apparently the big new feature people are raving about is the ability to rip
> a tab off an create a new instance of safari with said tab
New ?? never tried opera ??
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed GreyWyvern
writing in news:op.tttx27sfsl6xfd@news.nas.net:
> IE feels nice, and displays pages the way you think
> they should be displayed. But its lack of support for new technologies
> cripples it as a developer learning tool, if nothing else.
>
IE doesn't feel nice to me, no matter what they do for it. I've been using
Opera since 1999, and before that I used Netscape. I'm old enough to
remember the browser wars.
IMHO, IE has been trying to catch up from day 1, and instead of doing that,
it's just become something like an old, pox ridden whore. She lures you in
with a sweet sounding come on, then when you get close enough, you see the
faults, and if you're not careful, you catch something.
--
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http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
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On 14 Jun, 08:11, Adrienne Boswell
> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed GreyWyvern
> writing innews:op.tttx27sfsl6xfd@news.nas.net:
>
> > IE feels nice, and displays pages the way you think
> > they should be displayed. But its lack of support for new technologies
> > cripples it as a developer learning tool, if nothing else.
>
> IE doesn't feel nice to me, no matter what they do for it. I've been using
> Opera since 1999, and before that I used Netscape. I'm old enough to
> remember the browser wars.
>
> IMHO, IE has been trying to catch up from day 1, and instead of doing that,
> it's just become something like an old, pox ridden whore. She lures you in
> with a sweet sounding come on, then when you get close enough, you see the
> faults, and if you're not careful, you catch something.
>
what a beautifull,beautifull image. You're a poet :)
Paul
www.paulwattdesigns.com
Adrienne Boswell wrote:
>
> IMHO, IE has been trying to catch up from day 1, and instead of doing that,
> it's just become something like an old, pox ridden whore. She lures you in
> with a sweet sounding come on, then when you get close enough, you see the
> faults, and if you're not careful, you catch something.
Great imagery regarding that tramp, IE.
The worst thing about that kind of woman is that she's been with so
many. She no longer notices who she's with, and doesn't respect them,
nor does she respect herself.
It's sad.
--
John
Chris Hope wrote:
> Correct, but I suspect that's mainly to do with the html rendering than
> the gui.
Indeed -- it doesn't share any code at all with Konqueror's chrome (and a
good thing that is too!)
--
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[Geek of HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python/Apache/Linux]
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Shane wrote:
> Apparently the big new feature people are raving about is the ability to rip
> a tab off an create a new instance of safari with said tab
Opera 6 for Linux had that, but they've since changed it: ripping off a
tab now saves that page to the desktop (or to wherever else you've dragged
it). To detach a tab now you need to right-click it and choose "Detach".
--
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[Geek of HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python/Apache/Linux]
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Bergamot wrote:
> SEOwebMarket.com wrote:
>
>> The new deal with the tabs is that you can REARRANGE them
>
> That's been a feature of mozilla browsers for a long time now.
Opera too.
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[Geek of HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python/Apache/Linux]
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