XHTML and HTML

XHTML and HTML

am 12.06.2007 12:24:23 von UKuser

I've just read a very interesting article about XHTML which has begun
to question my logic of designing my pages as XHTML 1.0 Strict.

If you design pages as XHTML please read it:
http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml

We all know that xhtml has to be served as application/xhtml+xml and
maybe don't mind if it doesnt, however if it IS served (even as VALID
xhtml) as xhtml+xml, Internet Explorer won't display it! At all!

For those who use firefox, this plugin is well worth adding so you can
properly view your pages through the Firefox/XML parser:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3207.

However my Q on that basis is, does anyone know of a way to convert
XHTML to HTML 4.01 Strict? I have HTML tidy, but not sure if it can be
done. Is there a simple converter somewhere out there?

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 13.06.2007 06:21:16 von Neredbojias

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:24:23 GMT UKuser scribed:

> I've just read a very interesting article about XHTML which has begun
> to question my logic of designing my pages as XHTML 1.0 Strict.
>
> If you design pages as XHTML please read it:
> http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml
>
> We all know that xhtml has to be served as application/xhtml+xml and
> maybe don't mind if it doesnt, however if it IS served (even as VALID
> xhtml) as xhtml+xml, Internet Explorer won't display it! At all!
>
> For those who use firefox, this plugin is well worth adding so you can
> properly view your pages through the Firefox/XML parser:
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3207.
>
> However my Q on that basis is, does anyone know of a way to convert
> XHTML to HTML 4.01 Strict? I have HTML tidy, but not sure if it can be
> done. Is there a simple converter somewhere out there?

Can't you just use the search-and-replace feature of a good text editor?
It isn't _that_ complicated.

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Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 13.06.2007 09:40:38 von Rob_W

Neredbojias schreef:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:24:23 GMT UKuser scribed:
>
>> I've just read a very interesting article about XHTML which has begun
>> to question my logic of designing my pages as XHTML 1.0 Strict.
>>
>> If you design pages as XHTML please read it:
>> http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml
>>
>> We all know that xhtml has to be served as application/xhtml+xml and
>> maybe don't mind if it doesnt, however if it IS served (even as VALID
>> xhtml) as xhtml+xml, Internet Explorer won't display it! At all!
>>
>> For those who use firefox, this plugin is well worth adding so you can
>> properly view your pages through the Firefox/XML parser:
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3207.
>>
>> However my Q on that basis is, does anyone know of a way to convert
>> XHTML to HTML 4.01 Strict? I have HTML tidy, but not sure if it can be
>> done. Is there a simple converter somewhere out there?
>
> Can't you just use the search-and-replace feature of a good text editor?
> It isn't _that_ complicated.
>

Loose all the end-tags
Change all lowercase tags to uppercase


[just kiddin']

Rob

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 13.06.2007 10:11:17 von UKuser

On 13 Jun, 05:21, Neredbojias wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:24:23 GMT UKuser scribed:
>
>
>
> > I've just read a very interesting article about XHTML which has begun
> > to question my logic of designing my pages as XHTML 1.0 Strict.
>
> > If you design pages as XHTML please read it:
> >http://www.webdevout.net/articles/beware-of-xhtml
>
> > We all know that xhtml has to be served as application/xhtml+xml and
> > maybe don't mind if it doesnt, however if it IS served (even as VALID
> > xhtml) as xhtml+xml, Internet Explorer won't display it! At all!
>
> > For those who use firefox, this plugin is well worth adding so you can
> > properly view your pages through the Firefox/XML parser:
> >https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3207.
>
> > However my Q on that basis is, does anyone know of a way to convert
> > XHTML toHTML4.01 Strict? I haveHTMLtidy, but not sure if it can be
> > done. Is there a simple converter somewhere out there?
>
> Can't you just use the search-and-replace feature of a good text editor?
> It isn't _that_ complicated.
>
> --
> Neredbojias
> He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Valid point - not quite sure why I didnt think of that!! Replace />
with > and change doctype and its produced valid HTML 4.01 strict!

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 14.06.2007 01:56:10 von dorayme

In article
<1181722277.402200.21600@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
UKuser wrote:

> On 13 Jun, 05:21, Neredbojias wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:24:23 GMT UKuser scribed:
> >
> >
> > Can't you just use the search-and-replace feature of a good text editor?
> > It isn't _that_ complicated.
> >
>
> Valid point - not quite sure why I didnt think of that!!

Because you don't use S & R much in your work, it was not in the
area of your brain to get noticed, it was feint and hidden...

--
dorayme

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 14.06.2007 05:36:28 von Neredbojias

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:11:17 GMT UKuser scribed:

>> Can't you just use the search-and-replace feature of a good text editor?
>> It isn't _that_ complicated.

> Valid point - not quite sure why I didnt think of that!! Replace />
> with > and change doctype and its produced valid HTML 4.01 strict!

'Know what gets me? I'm pretty darn good in javascript and have much
experience but I _still_ have to look up several commands or functions [-
like Math.floor()] to recall the exact format of their implimentation.
'Guess we're just not genii.

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Re: XHTML and HTML

am 14.06.2007 17:06:26 von Toby A Inkster

Neredbojias wrote:

> Guess we're just not genii.

The plural of the English word "genius" is "geniuses".

Don't use the Latin plural of genius unless you're aware that the Latin
word "genius" means something somewhat different from the English word.

--
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Re: XHTML and HTML

am 15.06.2007 00:57:28 von 23s

"Toby A Inkster" wrote in message
news:i428k4-h76.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk...
> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> Guess we're just not genii.
>
> The plural of the English word "genius" is "geniuses".
>
> Don't use the Latin plural of genius unless you're aware that the Latin
> word "genius" means something somewhat different from the English word.
>
> --

Oh f**k, here we go again :/

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 15.06.2007 01:19:01 von dorayme

In article
<4671c7e0$0$22436$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>,
"asdf" wrote:

> "Toby A Inkster" wrote in message
> news:i428k4-h76.ln1@ophelia.g5n.co.uk...
> > Neredbojias wrote:
> >
> >> Guess we're just not genii.
> >
> > The plural of the English word "genius" is "geniuses".
> >
> > Don't use the Latin plural of genius unless you're aware that the Latin
> > word "genius" means something somewhat different from the English word.
> >
> > --
>
> Oh f**k, here we go again :/

So? Relax and enjoy the ride!

While I am here, I might as well give Boji a small shove: hey, Mr
English Grammar Standards Guru, will this make you a bit humbler
in your pronouncements about proper names?

--
dorayme

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 15.06.2007 06:21:58 von Neredbojias

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:06:26 GMT Toby A Inkster scribed:

> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> Guess we're just not genii.
>
> The plural of the English word "genius" is "geniuses".

I know; I was going for cutesy.

> Don't use the Latin plural of genius unless you're aware that the Latin
> word "genius" means something somewhat different from the English word.

Ja wohl, herr tyrannicalsaurus wrecks...

PS: Btw, what exactly does that "BSc (Hons) ARCS" in your sig mean?
-They awarded you certification for drawing multiple parabolae?

--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 15.06.2007 06:24:56 von Neredbojias

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 23:19:01 GMT dorayme scribed:

>> Oh f**k, here we go again :/
>
> So? Relax and enjoy the ride!
>
> While I am here, I might as well give Boji a small shove: hey, Mr
> English Grammar Standards Guru, will this make you a bit humbler
> in your pronouncements about proper names?

Nah. I was simply employing artistic license and one has to make
allowances for foreignors.

--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 15.06.2007 08:30:08 von Toby A Inkster

Neredbojias wrote:

> Btw, what exactly does that "BSc (Hons) ARCS" in your sig mean?
> -They awarded you certification for drawing multiple parabolae?

ARCS = Associate of the Royal College of Science. (In other words, I did my
degree at the Royal College of Science.)

--
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[OS: Linux 2.6.12-12mdksmp, up 111 days, 14:14.]

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Re: XHTML and HTML

am 16.06.2007 01:22:09 von Neredbojias

On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:30:08 GMT Toby A Inkster scribed:

> Neredbojias wrote:
>
>> Btw, what exactly does that "BSc (Hons) ARCS" in your sig mean?
>> -They awarded you certification for drawing multiple parabolae?
>
> ARCS = Associate of the Royal College of Science. (In other words, I
> did my degree at the Royal College of Science.)

Well, seriously, congratulations and kudos. I'd be proud, too.

Royal College, huh? Royalty is a multifarious concept over here in The
States. I'm not that familiar with the full ambience of the word from the
monarchistic point of view, but I do eat a lot of Royal pudding.

--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 25.06.2007 11:15:56 von UKuser

On 16 Jun, 00:22, Neredbojias wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:30:08 GMT Toby A Inkster scribed:
>
> > Neredbojias wrote:
>
> >> Btw, what exactly does that "BSc (Hons) ARCS" in your sig mean?
> >> -They awarded you certification for drawing multiple parabolae?
>
> > ARCS = Associate of the Royal College of Science. (In other words, I
> > did my degree at the Royal College of Science.)
>
> Well, seriously, congratulations and kudos. I'd be proud, too.
>
> Royal College, huh? Royalty is a multifarious concept over here in The
> States. I'm not that familiar with the full ambience of the word from the
> monarchistic point of view, but I do eat a lot of Royal pudding.
>
> --
> Neredbojias
> He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.

Interesting what thoughts my original post has created!! Happy
chatting. So if I said - I'm no expert but not bad - does that throw
an extra word into play (expert)?

Re: XHTML and HTML

am 26.06.2007 01:46:47 von Neredbojias

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:15:56 GMT UKuser scribed:

>> Royal College, huh? Royalty is a multifarious concept over here in
>> The States. I'm not that familiar with the full ambience of the word
>> from the monarchistic point of view, but I do eat a lot of Royal
>> pudding.

> Interesting what thoughts my original post has created!! Happy
> chatting. So if I said - I'm no expert but not bad - does that throw
> an extra word into play (expert)?

If you said what? -"I'm no expert..."?

(Except for the previous message, I no longer have the rest of the thread
available here because of the time factor.)

--
Neredbojias
He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.