I just found an interesting website.

Hi all.
I just found an interesting site, well the site itself is kind of average
but one of the services is interesting.
http://www.thesagewreath.com.au/index_files/Page1279.htm
They are a business that make soap and stuff but they claim to offer web
design as well! I was not quite sure what to think and then I looked at the
source code, an MS Word site for only $450.... WTF!.
This really only proves that companies really should spend the money and
hire a pro (who knows what they are doing) to design their website.
On that note, what on earth is with the file name they have used for that
page, is that some kind of MS-Word setting or something?.
The mind boggles.
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Re: I just found an interesting website.

On Jun 14, 9:48 am, "Chaddy2222" wrote:
> Hi all.
> I just found an interesting site, well the site itself is kind of average
> but one of the services is interesting.http://www.thesagewreath.com.au/index_files/Page 1279.htm
> They are a business that make soap and stuff but they claim to offer web
> design as well! I was not quite sure what to think and then I looked at the
> source code, an MS Word site for only $450.... WTF!.
> This really only proves that companies really should spend the money and
> hire a pro (who knows what they are doing) to design their website.
> On that note, what on earth is with the file name they have used for that
> page, is that some kind of MS-Word setting or something?.
> The mind boggles.

That site is sort of like an old fashioned country store. They are
still lacking food and clothing, but perhaps that comes next :-) . Or
perhaps adding web design makes up for that lack and brings the
concept up to date :-) . The business reminds me a bit of the Vermont
Country Store in the US, which has been around for ages, but they now
also have a web site. Retailers are selling some unusual items on the
web these days. One huge national chain discount store in the US has
now added coffins to their web site. I wonder how many they sell.

Re: I just found an interesting website.

While the city slept, cwdjrxyz (spamtrap2@cwdjr.info) feverishly typed...

> One huge national chain discount store in the US has
> now added coffins to their web site. I wonder how many they sell.

It's a dying trade... ;-)

Cheers,
Nige

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Re: I just found an interesting website.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:32:26 GMT cwdjrxyz scribed:

> On Jun 14, 9:48 am, "Chaddy2222" wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I just found an interesting site, well the site itself is kind of
>> average but one of the services is
>>
> That site is sort of like an old fashioned country store. They are
> still lacking food and clothing, but perhaps that comes next :-) . Or
> perhaps adding web design makes up for that lack and brings the
> concept up to date :-) . The business reminds me a bit of the Vermont
> Country Store in the US, which has been around for ages, but they now
> also have a web site. Retailers are selling some unusual items on the
> web these days. One huge national chain discount store in the US has
> now added coffins to their web site. I wonder how many they sell.

Well, I bought one, but I had it sent to Sydney.

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Re: I just found an interesting website.

In article ,
Neredbojias wrote:

> coffins
>
> Well, I bought one, but I had it sent to Sydney.

I hope you did not forget to get inside. I look forward to
preparing your body. I have been doing this for a hobby ever
since I saw the nice film: Plots with a View

--
dorayme

Re: I just found an interesting website.

cwdjrxyz wrote:
> On Jun 14, 9:48 am, "Chaddy2222" wrote:
>> Hi all.
>> I just found an interesting site, well the site itself is kind of average
>> but one of the services is interesting.http://www.thesagewreath.com.au/index_files/Page 1279.htm
>> They are a business that make soap and stuff but they claim to offer web
>> design as well! I was not quite sure what to think and then I looked at the
>> source code, an MS Word site for only $450.... WTF!.
>> This really only proves that companies really should spend the money and
>> hire a pro (who knows what they are doing) to design their website.
>> On that note, what on earth is with the file name they have used for that
>> page, is that some kind of MS-Word setting or something?.
>> The mind boggles.
>
> That site is sort of like an old fashioned country store. They are
> still lacking food and clothing, but perhaps that comes next :-) . Or
> perhaps adding web design makes up for that lack and brings the
> concept up to date :-) . The business reminds me a bit of the Vermont
> Country Store in the US, which has been around for ages, but they now
> also have a web site. Retailers are selling some unusual items on the
> web these days. One huge national chain discount store in the US has
> now added coffins to their web site. I wonder how many they sell.
>

Vermont country store. Be it known, that if you DARE order from
Vermont Country Store online and provide an email address for your
receipt and tracking, you WILL get bombarded forever after with ads EVEN
IF YOU UNCHECK THE OPT-IN BOX! You will receive ads before you receive
your order confirmation, and when you use a different email address to
complain about it THAT email address will begin to be spammed as well. I
had to call the store and get an owner and get ugly and nasty before my
email got clean again. They may be nice people and have a lot of neat
stuff, but they do not understand email privacy and whoever they pay to
handle the online marketing are even more clueless. Just a note of
personal experience.

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from your list. I want my internets back! :( " - Russel Wood

Re: I just found an interesting website.

On Jun 14, 10:48 am, "Chaddy2222" wrote:
> MS Word site for only $450.... WTF!.
> This really only proves that companies really should spend the money and
> hire a pro (who knows what they are doing) to design their website.

Playing the devils advocate for a second. Why does this prove you
should go to a pro? Because they use Word? The site works fine in FF
and IE. This is what, 90%-95% of your visitors? The design [look and
feel] is no worse than other "pro" examples I have seen proclaimed
here. Looks like the employees are all old(er) people too, but the
fact that it completely falls apart if you change the font size does
not seem to matter to them.

It gets the job done. And to a company on a budget that has no
website, $450.00, can be just what they need.

Re: I just found an interesting website.

Travis Newbury wrote:
> On Jun 14, 10:48 am, "Chaddy2222" wrote:
>> MS Word site for only $450.... WTF!.
>> This really only proves that companies really should spend the money and
>> hire a pro (who knows what they are doing) to design their website.
>
> Playing the devils advocate for a second. Why does this prove you
> should go to a pro? Because they use Word? The site works fine in FF
> and IE. This is what, 90%-95% of your visitors? The design [look and
> feel] is no worse than other "pro" examples I have seen proclaimed
> here. Looks like the employees are all old(er) people too, but the
> fact that it completely falls apart if you change the font size does
> not seem to matter to them.
>
> It gets the job done. And to a company on a budget that has no
> website, $450.00, can be just what they need.
>

I might have a rusty 1970 Ford Pinto to get me around. It would "work",
and it would be "cheap", but I wouldn't want to take a customer to
lunch in it.

Your website is a reflection on your business. A good website reflects
well on your company. And a poor website reflects poorly.


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Re: I just found an interesting website.

On Jun 15, 6:33 am, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Your website is a reflection on your business. A good website reflects
> well on your company. And a poor website reflects poorly.

My point exactly. To the casual surfer (read that as almost everyone
but a professional web designer) that website looks and works
perfectly fine. No one going to that site looking for soap will look
at the source code and say

"Damn this company has shitty HTML code! SON OF A BITCH! They used
WORD and not Notepad!!! I am going to their competitor!!!!"

To you, a professional, yes it [technically] sucks, to my mom, who is
looking to buy soap, and wouldn't know how to view the source code if
her life depended on it, it looks and works fine. And she will buy
the soap.

A "good" website is one that helps your business regardless of how it
was built or who built it.

Re: I just found an interesting website.

Travis Newbury wrote:

> On Jun 15, 6:33 am, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>>Your website is a reflection on your business. A good website reflects
>>well on your company. And a poor website reflects poorly.
>
>
> My point exactly. To the casual surfer (read that as almost everyone
> but a professional web designer) that website looks and works
> perfectly fine. No one going to that site looking for soap will look
> at the source code and say
>
> "Damn this company has shitty HTML code! SON OF A BITCH! They used
> WORD and not Notepad!!! I am going to their competitor!!!!"
>
> To you, a professional, yes it [technically] sucks, to my mom, who is
> looking to buy soap, and wouldn't know how to view the source code if
> her life depended on it, it looks and works fine. And she will buy
> the soap.
>
> A "good" website is one that helps your business regardless of how it
> was built or who built it.
>

Remind me to pay more attention to what Travis has to say in posts. He
makes a lot of sense.

P.

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Re: I just found an interesting website.

On Jun 15, 10:22 pm, Travis Newbury wrote:
> On Jun 15, 6:33 am, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> > Your website is a reflection on your business. A good website reflects
> > well on your company. And a poor website reflects poorly.
>
> My point exactly. To the casual surfer (read that as almost everyone
> but a professional web designer) that website looks and works
> perfectly fine. No one going to that site looking for soap will look
> at the source code and say
>
> "Damn this company has shitty HTML code! SON OF A BITCH! They used
> WORD and not Notepad!!! I am going to their competitor!!!!"
>
> To you, a professional, yes it [technically] sucks, to my mom, who is
> looking to buy soap, and wouldn't know how to view the source code if
> her life depended on it, it looks and works fine. And she will buy
> the soap.
>
> A "good" website is one that helps your business regardless of how it
> was built or who built it.

I agree to a point with what you are saying. However the main point I
was trying to make is that as a company offering web design services,
they should have some idea of good practice when it come to web
authoring, you need to understand all about Do and charsets and a
range of other factors, here in Australia web accessibility is yet
another of these issues as it's law! It's in the DDA that websites
need to be accessible. You also need to know about other issues such
as the fact that not all web surfers use the same Operating system
(OS). You can't just slap a nice looking page on a web server and
expect it to just work!.


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Re: I just found an interesting website.

Travis Newbury wrote:
> On Jun 15, 6:33 am, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Your website is a reflection on your business. A good website reflects
>> well on your company. And a poor website reflects poorly.
>
> My point exactly. To the casual surfer (read that as almost everyone
> but a professional web designer) that website looks and works
> perfectly fine. No one going to that site looking for soap will look
> at the source code and say
>
> "Damn this company has shitty HTML code! SON OF A BITCH! They used
> WORD and not Notepad!!! I am going to their competitor!!!!"

Ah therein lies the rub, they rarely work well. As with said example is
flooded with MS BS: