sessions being dropped and info not passed

For our webserver the rack is a P4 1.8 Ghz with 1.5 gig of ram running IIS 6
on Windows 2003 server. We have 175 different domains served by this
server. All of them are using Classic ASP with VBScript as the server side
language, and as of this time none are using ASP.Net

The databases are on 2 different machines(one for SQL Server DBs and another
for the Access DBs).

Every now and then we have an issue where a user will log into a site and
almost immediately their session will end. Generally when this happens,
the user can log back on and not have another problem. On a few very rare
occasions the user's session will end once more after they log back on.
However, the session ending very fast to the same user is extremely rare.

This is random as far as the actual domain that it may happen to. This has
also happend to most if not all of the different domains on this server over
the last 10 months or so. Does anyone have any ideas what I should be
looking for to resolve this issue?

Also every now and then we have an issue where after a user has filled out a
form and then submitted it, some of the data from the form fields is not
passed to the next page. Sometimes these are hidden form fields {page
level variables that are assigned to the page (none of these are session
variables, the value in the variable is either passed from the previosu page
or the value is assigned by a call to a recordset)} and sometimes they are
text fields the user has filled out. I have done a for each loop on a
number of occassions to see what data is passed, and what isn't being
passed. Generally, it is just one or more of the hidden fields that is
left blank and very rarely it is all of the fields hidden as well as user
filled out (text, radio, checkbox).

Does anyone have any ideas why all of the information is not passed or in
some cases none of the information is passed?

Each of the above happens very infrequently. So far I have not been able to
see amy discernable pattern as to what information is or isn't passed.
Obviously, the busier the site the more it is noticed.

Is the 1st problem (sessions being dropped) related to the 2nd (form
information not being passed)?

RE: sessions being dropped and info not passed

Hi check these KB

PRB: Session State Is Lost in Web Farm If You Use SqlServer or StateServer
Session Mode http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325056/en-us

Client sessions may be lost while accessing a Web Farm program in Windows NT
Server 4.0 and Window 2000 Advanced Server
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/258699/en-us

"me" wrote:

> For our webserver the rack is a P4 1.8 Ghz with 1.5 gig of ram running IIS 6
> on Windows 2003 server. We have 175 different domains served by this
> server. All of them are using Classic ASP with VBScript as the server side
> language, and as of this time none are using ASP.Net
>
> The databases are on 2 different machines(one for SQL Server DBs and another
> for the Access DBs).
>
> Every now and then we have an issue where a user will log into a site and
> almost immediately their session will end. Generally when this happens,
> the user can log back on and not have another problem. On a few very rare
> occasions the user's session will end once more after they log back on.
> However, the session ending very fast to the same user is extremely rare.
>
> This is random as far as the actual domain that it may happen to. This has
> also happend to most if not all of the different domains on this server over
> the last 10 months or so. Does anyone have any ideas what I should be
> looking for to resolve this issue?
>
> Also every now and then we have an issue where after a user has filled out a
> form and then submitted it, some of the data from the form fields is not
> passed to the next page. Sometimes these are hidden form fields {page
> level variables that are assigned to the page (none of these are session
> variables, the value in the variable is either passed from the previosu page
> or the value is assigned by a call to a recordset)} and sometimes they are
> text fields the user has filled out. I have done a for each loop on a
> number of occassions to see what data is passed, and what isn't being
> passed. Generally, it is just one or more of the hidden fields that is
> left blank and very rarely it is all of the fields hidden as well as user
> filled out (text, radio, checkbox).
>
> Does anyone have any ideas why all of the information is not passed or in
> some cases none of the information is passed?
>
> Each of the above happens very infrequently. So far I have not been able to
> see amy discernable pattern as to what information is or isn't passed.
> Obviously, the busier the site the more it is noticed.
>
> Is the 1st problem (sessions being dropped) related to the 2nd (form
> information not being passed)?
>
>
>

Re: sessions being dropped and info not passed

The 1st article says it applies to .NET only. We are only using ASP 3.0
no .Net

Thanks for the reply.


"Ramon Jimenez" wrote in message
news:93652655-E16A-410E-AD4B-037E9D36FE36@microsoft.com...
> Hi check these KB
>
> PRB: Session State Is Lost in Web Farm If You Use SqlServer or StateServer
> Session Mode http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325056/en-us
>
> Client sessions may be lost while accessing a Web Farm program in Windows
NT
> Server 4.0 and Window 2000 Advanced Server
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/258699/en-us
>
> "me" wrote:
>
> > For our webserver the rack is a P4 1.8 Ghz with 1.5 gig of ram running
IIS 6
> > on Windows 2003 server. We have 175 different domains served by this
> > server. All of them are using Classic ASP with VBScript as the server
side
> > language, and as of this time none are using ASP.Net
> >
> > The databases are on 2 different machines(one for SQL Server DBs and
another
> > for the Access DBs).
> >
> > Every now and then we have an issue where a user will log into a site
and
> > almost immediately their session will end. Generally when this
happens,
> > the user can log back on and not have another problem. On a few very
rare
> > occasions the user's session will end once more after they log back on.
> > However, the session ending very fast to the same user is extremely
rare.
> >
> > This is random as far as the actual domain that it may happen to. This
has
> > also happend to most if not all of the different domains on this server
over
> > the last 10 months or so. Does anyone have any ideas what I should be
> > looking for to resolve this issue?
> >
> > Also every now and then we have an issue where after a user has filled
out a
> > form and then submitted it, some of the data from the form fields is not
> > passed to the next page. Sometimes these are hidden form fields {page
> > level variables that are assigned to the page (none of these are session
> > variables, the value in the variable is either passed from the previosu
page
> > or the value is assigned by a call to a recordset)} and sometimes they
are
> > text fields the user has filled out. I have done a for each loop on a
> > number of occassions to see what data is passed, and what isn't being
> > passed. Generally, it is just one or more of the hidden fields that
is
> > left blank and very rarely it is all of the fields hidden as well as
user
> > filled out (text, radio, checkbox).
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas why all of the information is not passed or
in
> > some cases none of the information is passed?
> >
> > Each of the above happens very infrequently. So far I have not been
able to
> > see amy discernable pattern as to what information is or isn't passed.
> > Obviously, the busier the site the more it is noticed.
> >
> > Is the 1st problem (sessions being dropped) related to the 2nd (form
> > information not being passed)?
> >
> >
> >

Re: sessions being dropped and info not passed

We have a similar problem with pure ASP pages.

Our developers decided that they don't need a global.asa file, it worked on
IIS 5.0 (and only one inetinfo process) but when we move into W2K3 and IIS
6.0 and
try to set several w3wp to the same application pool we got the same problem
that you, so we must to leave only one process for every application pool.

Ramon

"me" wrote:

> The 1st article says it applies to .NET only. We are only using ASP 3.0
> no .Net
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
>
> "Ramon Jimenez" wrote in message
> news:93652655-E16A-410E-AD4B-037E9D36FE36@microsoft.com...
> > Hi check these KB
> >
> > PRB: Session State Is Lost in Web Farm If You Use SqlServer or StateServer
> > Session Mode http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325056/en-us
> >
> > Client sessions may be lost while accessing a Web Farm program in Windows
> NT
> > Server 4.0 and Window 2000 Advanced Server
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/258699/en-us
> >
> > "me" wrote:
> >
> > > For our webserver the rack is a P4 1.8 Ghz with 1.5 gig of ram running
> IIS 6
> > > on Windows 2003 server. We have 175 different domains served by this
> > > server. All of them are using Classic ASP with VBScript as the server
> side
> > > language, and as of this time none are using ASP.Net
> > >
> > > The databases are on 2 different machines(one for SQL Server DBs and
> another
> > > for the Access DBs).
> > >
> > > Every now and then we have an issue where a user will log into a site
> and
> > > almost immediately their session will end. Generally when this
> happens,
> > > the user can log back on and not have another problem. On a few very
> rare
> > > occasions the user's session will end once more after they log back on.
> > > However, the session ending very fast to the same user is extremely
> rare.
> > >
> > > This is random as far as the actual domain that it may happen to. This
> has
> > > also happend to most if not all of the different domains on this server
> over
> > > the last 10 months or so. Does anyone have any ideas what I should be
> > > looking for to resolve this issue?
> > >
> > > Also every now and then we have an issue where after a user has filled
> out a
> > > form and then submitted it, some of the data from the form fields is not
> > > passed to the next page. Sometimes these are hidden form fields {page
> > > level variables that are assigned to the page (none of these are session
> > > variables, the value in the variable is either passed from the previosu
> page
> > > or the value is assigned by a call to a recordset)} and sometimes they
> are
> > > text fields the user has filled out. I have done a for each loop on a
> > > number of occassions to see what data is passed, and what isn't being
> > > passed. Generally, it is just one or more of the hidden fields that
> is
> > > left blank and very rarely it is all of the fields hidden as well as
> user
> > > filled out (text, radio, checkbox).
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any ideas why all of the information is not passed or
> in
> > > some cases none of the information is passed?
> > >
> > > Each of the above happens very infrequently. So far I have not been
> able to
> > > see amy discernable pattern as to what information is or isn't passed.
> > > Obviously, the busier the site the more it is noticed.
> > >
> > > Is the 1st problem (sessions being dropped) related to the 2nd (form
> > > information not being passed)?
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>