Ethernet devide enumeration problems

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Hi all,

I'm here asking for solutions for the Damned "Ethernet device
enumeration" problem!

I have a P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs, but
the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot! It's getting me mad!


I'm using slackware 11.0, kernel 2.6.21.3.

I know Suse and RHEL has a solution, but it integrates too many things
to get it working under slackware.

Any "easy"(not with so many dependencies) way?


Thanks,

Mauricio

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Re: Ethernet devide enumeration problems

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 19:26 -0300, Mauricio Silveira wrote:
> Hi all,
>=20
> I'm here asking for solutions for the Damned "Ethernet device=20
> enumeration" problem!
>=20
> I have a P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs, but=
=20
> the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot! It's getting me mad!
>=20
>=20
> I'm using slackware 11.0, kernel 2.6.21.3.
>=20
> I know Suse and RHEL has a solution, but it integrates too many thing=
s=20
> to get it working under slackware.
>=20
> Any "easy"(not with so many dependencies) way?

Use udev with rules for keeping the ethernet interfaces consistant.


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Re: Ethernet devide enumeration problems

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Nikolai Lusan wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 19:26 -0300, Mauricio Silveira wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm here asking for solutions for the Damned "Ethernet device
>> enumeration" problem!
>>
>> I have a P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs, but
>> the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot! It's getting me mad!
>>
>>
>> I'm using slackware 11.0, kernel 2.6.21.3.
>>
>> I know Suse and RHEL has a solution, but it integrates too many things
>> to get it working under slackware.
>>
>> Any "easy"(not with so many dependencies) way?
>>
>
> Use udev with rules for keeping the ethernet interfaces consistant.
>
>
>
Thanks Nikolai,

In advance, have you got any url that might be of some help?

I'm searching for this right now.

Mauricio

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Re: Ethernet devide enumeration problems

Hi Mauricio,

Just read the following file:

/etc/udev/rules.d/network-devices.rules

and you should get an idea of what to do with it.
If not, send another e-mail to the list.

Cheers,
George Iosif

>>> Mauricio Silveira 06/27/07 3:13 AM >>>
Nikolai Lusan wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 19:26 -0300, Mauricio Silveira wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm here asking for solutions for the Damned "Ethernet device
>> enumeration" problem!
>>
>> I have a P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs, but

>> the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot! It's getting me mad!
>>
>>
>> I'm using slackware 11.0, kernel 2.6.21.3.
>>
>> I know Suse and RHEL has a solution, but it integrates too many
things
>> to get it working under slackware.
>>
>> Any "easy"(not with so many dependencies) way?
>>
>
> Use udev with rules for keeping the ethernet interfaces consistant.
>
>
>
Thanks Nikolai,

In advance, have you got any url that might be of some help?

I'm searching for this right now.

Mauricio

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Re: Ethernet devide enumeration problems

.... ciao:

as a preface:

i've read suggestions about using udev and associated magic
toward a solution. i am not convinced that the way to go.


: on "6-26-2007" "Mauricio Silveira" writ:
: P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs
: the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot!

as the nics integrated into the motherboard, reference to them must
exist withing the bios. by implication, this well prior to a kernel
loading, and executing modules for udev (hotswap) hardware.

the approach i would attempt, is to assign a static irq and addr to
each device, within the bios, and pass that information to the kernel via
tbe bootloader. just a thought ...


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if i have to , i guess ...

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Re: Ethernet devide enumeration problems

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Hi Folks,
look in
http://www.science.uva.nl/research/air/wiki/LogicalInterface Names

maybe it will be helpful. :)

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Network Administrator
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Tel: +55(21)2233-5950 Ramal:29
Skype: aslancarlos

On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 03:10 -0700, terry white wrote:
> ... ciao:
>=20
> as a preface:
>=20
> i've read suggestions about using udev and associated magic
> toward a solution. i am not convinced that the way to go.
>=20
>=20
> : on "6-26-2007" "Mauricio Silveira" writ:
> : P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs
> : the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot!
>=20
> as the nics integrated into the motherboard, reference to them must
> exist withing the bios. by implication, this well prior to a kernel
> loading, and executing modules for udev (hotswap) hardware.
>=20
> the approach i would attempt, is to assign a static irq and addr to
> each device, within the bios, and pass that information to the kernel via
> tbe bootloader. just a thought ...
>=20
>=20




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Re: Ethernet devide enumeration problems

Hi,

Aslan Carlos wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> look in
> http://www.science.uva.nl/research/air/wiki/LogicalInterface Names
>
> maybe it will be helpful. :)

Hadn't heard of ifrename before. That's really useful to know about
(although bizarrely it is part of the wireless-tools package under
fedora/red hat/centos).

Cheers

Adam


> []'s
> ---
> Aslan Carlos de M. Ramos
> Network Administrator
> K8 Networks, Digirati Networks, HostNet
> Tel: +55(21)2233-5950 Ramal:29
> Skype: aslancarlos
>
> On Wed, 2007-06-27 at 03:10 -0700, terry white wrote:
>> ... ciao:
>>
>> as a preface:
>>
>> i've read suggestions about using udev and associated magic
>> toward a solution. i am not convinced that the way to go.
>>
>>
>> : on "6-26-2007" "Mauricio Silveira" writ:
>> : P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs
>> : the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot!
>>
>> as the nics integrated into the motherboard, reference to them must
>> exist withing the bios. by implication, this well prior to a kernel
>> loading, and executing modules for udev (hotswap) hardware.
>>
>> the approach i would attempt, is to assign a static irq and addr to
>> each device, within the bios, and pass that information to the kernel via
>> tbe bootloader. just a thought ...
>>
>>
>
>
>



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Re: Ethernet devide enumeration problems

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Hi,

I'm just updating this thread to post useful information.

I was unable to use ifrename to do the trick ...

I have upgraded the server to slackware 12, since the disk mirroring was
incomplete when slackware 12 was released, so I decided to rebuild the
raid array and install slackware 12 on it :)

Tuning the file "/etc/udev/rules.d/75-network-devices.rules" as needed
seems to solve the problem.
I encourage everyone who uses slackware as you system to upgrade to v12 :)

Although I think samba 3.0.25b needs some "monitoring", got some strange
behavior from this version, downgrading brought everything back in place.

Thanks for all your help,

Mauricio

Mauricio Silveira wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm here asking for solutions for the Damned "Ethernet device
> enumeration" problem!
>
> I have a P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs, but
> the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot! It's getting me mad!
>
>
> I'm using slackware 11.0, kernel 2.6.21.3.
>
> I know Suse and RHEL has a solution, but it integrates too many things
> to get it working under slackware.
>
> Any "easy"(not with so many dependencies) way?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mauricio


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Re: Ethernet devide enumeration problems

Hi,

I've this problems too, but I was using initrd to load many modules to
work with AoE, I can't change the interface using udev :(, I use the
solution was rename the interfaces using ip command intro the initrd
after up the interfaces.

Thanks in advance,
--
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Network Administrator
Mobile : +55(21)9989-4932
Skype : aslancarlos

On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 00:28 -0300, Mauricio Silveira wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm just updating this thread to post useful information.
>
> I was unable to use ifrename to do the trick ...
>
> I have upgraded the server to slackware 12, since the disk mirroring was
> incomplete when slackware 12 was released, so I decided to rebuild the
> raid array and install slackware 12 on it :)
>
> Tuning the file "/etc/udev/rules.d/75-network-devices.rules" as needed
> seems to solve the problem.
> I encourage everyone who uses slackware as you system to upgrade to v12 :)
>
> Although I think samba 3.0.25b needs some "monitoring", got some strange
> behavior from this version, downgrading brought everything back in place.
>
> Thanks for all your help,
>
> Mauricio
>
> Mauricio Silveira wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm here asking for solutions for the Damned "Ethernet device
> > enumeration" problem!
> >
> > I have a P5b Mobo for my office server, it has 2 integrated NICs, but
> > the order for eth0/eth1 changes at each boot! It's getting me mad!
> >
> >
> > I'm using slackware 11.0, kernel 2.6.21.3.
> >
> > I know Suse and RHEL has a solution, but it integrates too many things
> > to get it working under slackware.
> >
> > Any "easy"(not with so many dependencies) way?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mauricio
>
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