review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

Hi Folk

Please review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz.

I am keen to hear your opinions.

Much appreciate any comments.

Thank you

Nicolaas

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

In article
<1183324106.197038.14800@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
windandwaves wrote:

> Hi Folk
>
> Please review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
>
> I am keen to hear your opinions.
>
> Much appreciate any comments.
>
> Thank you
>
> Nicolaas

On Macs with some popular newsreaders, links clicked will not
succeed without the http:// prefixed.

Nice clean look of this site, disconcerting to have the
thumbnails overlay the text if the browser window is even as wide
as 800px.

Personally, I don't like the menu at the bottom like this because
it looks as if it, too, is fighting with the content, it can
never be scrolled away.

The paler of the thumbnails is not happy against the white
background.

I have not checked your code because I am in the part of alt.html
which graciously deals with surface user issues as a service to
Kiwis.

--
dorayme

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

windandwaves wrote:
>
> Please review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz.

You have not set a background color for . If you change your own
browser default color to something other than white, you'll see this
error right away.

The home page looks like it could use some headings. To me, it's just a
jumble of words on screen. If the client is in marketing, I would have
thought they'd provide copy with some amount of typography included.

Those images on the home page appear to be links, but nothing happens
when I click on them. Oh, I see what happens when JavaScript is enabled.
You should fix those links from "#" (bad) to the full-size image (good)
so those without JS get to see them, too. BTW, I don't like the picture
overlaying the text like that, especially the text pretty much
disappearing. But I guess that's subjective. :-\

Browser-sniffing is soooooooo 90's. Using it to select a browser
specific stylesheet is definitely a bad idea. You don't need it. Get rid
of it. I see a noticeable difference in the content width between JS off
and on. Why? A simple width and/or max-width is all you should need.

XHTML 1.1 is a useless DOCTYPE. The subject has been thrashed around
here repeatedly and there is no reason to dredge it up again. Just drop
XHTML altogether and stick with HTML 4.01 Strict if you hope to have
cross-browser compatibility.

--
Berg

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:08:26 GMT windandwaves scribed:

> Hi Folk
>
> Please review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz.

I get a horz scroll in ie6 (at 1280px screen) and the menu is at the top.

--
Neredbojias

Once I had a little dog
Who wagged its tail spritely.
But it walked by the harvestor
And now is shorter slightly.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 10:52 am, dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <1183324106.197038.14...@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> windandwaves wrote:
> > Hi Folk
>
> > Please review my website:www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
>
> > I am keen to hear your opinions.
>
> > Much appreciate any comments.
>
> > Thank you
>
> > Nicolaas
>
> On Macs with some popular newsreaders, links clicked will not
> succeed without the http:// prefixed.

Not sure what you mean - is it important?

> Nice clean look of this site, disconcerting to have the
> thumbnails overlay the text if the browser window is even as wide
> as 800px.

They dont, ONLY when you resize the window after loading - which is
pretty rare and then again, the next page will load fine. Just try it.

> Personally, I don't like the menu at the bottom like this because
> it looks as if it, too, is fighting with the content, it can
> never be scrolled away.

Point taken.

> The paler of the thumbnails is not happy against the white
> background.

Point taken.

> I have not checked your code because I am in the part of alt.html
> which graciously deals with surface user issues as a service to
> Kiwis.

THANKS A MILLION anyway!
> --
> dorayme

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 12:04 pm, Bergamot wrote:
> windandwaves wrote:
>
> > Please review my website:www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
>
> You have not set a background color for . If you change your own
> browser default color to something other than white, you'll see this
> error right away.

corrected. thank you.

> The home page looks like it could use some headings. To me, it's just a
> jumble of words on screen. If the client is in marketing, I would have
> thought they'd provide copy with some amount of typography included.

Totally agree, will think about this!

> Those images on the home page appear to be links, but nothing happens
> when I click on them. Oh, I see what happens when JavaScript is enabled.
> You should fix those links from "#" (bad) to the full-size image (good)
> so those without JS get to see them, too. BTW, I don't like the picture
> overlaying the text like that, especially the text pretty much
> disappearing. But I guess that's subjective. :-\

point taken and Javascript alternative implemented....

> Browser-sniffing is soooooooo 90's. Using it to select a browser
> specific stylesheet is definitely a bad idea. You don't need it. Get rid
> of it. I see a noticeable difference in the content width between JS off
> and on. Why? A simple width and/or max-width is all you should need.

Browser sniffing maybe 90ies, but it works for me for now. I could
probably do it smart with width and so, but it is a bit tricky right
now.

> XHTML 1.1 is a useless DOCTYPE. The subject has been thrashed around
> here repeatedly and there is no reason to dredge it up again. Just drop
> XHTML altogether and stick with HTML 4.01 Strict if you hope to have
> cross-browser compatibility.

Ok, i hear what you are saying. Does it matter? I know it is a silly
Doctype, but does it hurt?

> --
> Berg

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 12:12 pm, Neredbojias wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:08:26 GMT windandwaves scribed:
>
> > Hi Folk
>
> > Please review my website:www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
>
> I get a horz scroll in ie6 (at 1280px screen) and the menu is at the top.
>
> --
> Neredbojias
>
> Once I had a little dog
> Who wagged its tail spritely.
> But it walked by the harvestor
> And now is shorter slightly.

Yes, IE6 needs some work!

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

In article
<1183337061.452358.124030@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
windandwaves wrote:

> On Jul 2, 10:52 am, dorayme wrote:
> > In article
> > <1183324106.197038.14...@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > windandwaves wrote:
> > > Hi Folk
> >
> > > Please review my website:www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
> >
> > On Macs with some popular newsreaders, links clicked will not
> > succeed without the http:// prefixed.
>
> Not sure what you mean - is it important?
>

Depends on your point of view. It is nice to click a link and it
opens. When this fails, some of us have to manually add the
http:// bit. Not the end of the world, just thought I would
mention it.


> > Nice clean look of this site, disconcerting to have the
> > thumbnails overlay the text if the browser window is even as wide
> > as 800px.
>
> They dont, ONLY when you resize the window after loading - which is
> pretty rare and then again, the next page will load fine. Just try it.

I often resize windows after they load and only after this inside
info you provide to me do I see that a refresh (no need to go
another page) does it adjust. Neat, of course from a narrow
technical point of view: not sure I have seen this before!

But, imo, you are gambling here too much. There may be many
others who do as I do, resize windows (it is perhaps more common
on Macs?)

Look at the page, why would you go in for such fancy sniffing
with the downside I mention when you could easily em base your
material to adjust in a normal good practice html/css way?

Again, I have not looked at your code (in case I am tempted to
distract myself from work for longer!)

--
dorayme

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

"windandwaves" wrote in message
news:1183337061.452358.124030@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com.. .
> On Jul 2, 10:52 am, dorayme wrote:
>> In article
>> <1183324106.197038.14...@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> windandwaves wrote:
>> > Hi Folk

>> Nice clean look of this site, disconcerting to have the
>> thumbnails overlay the text if the browser window is even as wide
>> as 800px.

> They dont, ONLY when you resize the window after loading - which is
> pretty rare and then again, the next page will load fine. Just try it.

I would think that resizing of the window would *always* occur (if it does
at all) immediately after loading: Load site, ah, need to resize.

Why not just use the fallback you already have there for when javascript is
disabled[1]. All you need to do is ajust the width a bit to get rid of all
the white space.

[1] why use perfectly good CSS an then cover it up with some broken
javascript that some large percentage of your viewers (read potential
customers) will not see anyway? And if they do see it then will they think:
"Hmmm, something odd about this site when I resize. I wonder if this oddness
will be in the site I might get them to build for me?". The browser is
perfectly capable of resizing your content based on window size.

Your menu is inside out. The language you present in (English) reads left to
right.

The thumbnails are very poor. Slice out an interesting bit of the image, not
just the top right hand corner. Any thumbnail of a picture with sky in it is
just blue. Hang on. Those are not thumbnails. You are sending me an entire
50K image and just ising the top left hand corner :-)

--
Richard.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

windandwaves wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
>> windandwaves wrote:
>>> Please review my website:www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
>>
>> On Macs with some popular newsreaders, links clicked will not
>> succeed without the http:// prefixed.
>
> Not sure what you mean - is it important?

You posted: website:www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
She meant use: website: http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz .

as some newsreaders do not make a clickable link unless the http:// is
included. You also have a period at the end, and some readers will
include that in the link - no space after "nz" - but you really should
use: http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/ with a leading space and with a
trailing slash and space. Doing so will give the widest audience
clickability.

--
-bts
-Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

In article
,
"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:

> She meant ...

Ahem... perhaps more accurate is "It meant ..."

--
dorayme

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 2:45 pm, dorayme wrote:
> In article
> ,
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>
> > She meant ...
>
> Ahem... perhaps more accurate is "It meant ..."
>
> --
> dorayme

Hi Everyone

Thanks a million for your help. Fantastic. Much appreciated. I have
implemented a number of recommendations and the site is looking better
now! thank you. http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/ that is.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 1:30 pm, "rf" wrote:
> "windandwaves" wrote in message
>
> news:1183337061.452358.124030@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com.. .
>
> > On Jul 2, 10:52 am, dorayme wrote:
> >> In article
> >> <1183324106.197038.14...@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >> windandwaves wrote:
> >> > Hi Folk
> >> Nice clean look of this site, disconcerting to have the
> >> thumbnails overlay the text if the browser window is even as wide
> >> as 800px.
> > They dont, ONLY when you resize the window after loading - which is
> > pretty rare and then again, the next page will load fine. Just try it.
>
> I would think that resizing of the window would *always* occur (if it does
> at all) immediately after loading: Load site, ah, need to resize.
>
> Why not just use the fallback you already have there for when javascript is
> disabled[1]. All you need to do is ajust the width a bit to get rid of all
> the white space.
>
> [1] why use perfectly good CSS an then cover it up with some broken
> javascript that some large percentage of your viewers (read potential
> customers) will not see anyway? And if they do see it then will they think:
> "Hmmm, something odd about this site when I resize. I wonder if this oddness
> will be in the site I might get them to build for me?". The browser is
> perfectly capable of resizing your content based on window size.

I agree with the above and I have changed it accordingly

> Your menu is inside out. The language you present in (English) reads left to
> right.
>
> The thumbnails are very poor. Slice out an interesting bit of the image, not
> just the top right hand corner. Any thumbnail of a picture with sky in it is
> just blue. Hang on. Those are not thumbnails. You are sending me an entire
> 50K image and just ising the top left hand corner :-)

The points above are a matter of style. I like it this way.....

> --
> Richard.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

"windandwaves" wrote in message
news:1183347089.918082.48930@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 2, 2:45 pm, dorayme wrote:
>> In article
>> ,
>> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>>
>> > She meant ...
>>
>> Ahem... perhaps more accurate is "It meant ..."
>>
>> --
>> dorayme
>
> Hi Everyone
>
> Thanks a million for your help. Fantastic. Much appreciated. I have
> implemented a number of recommendations and the site is looking better
> now! thank you. http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/ that is.

Nope :-).

http://barefile.com.au/ssu.jpg - 61K *heavily* compressed.

The pink is my background colour showing through. I don't know what the red
is.

Oddly it works fine in Windows Safari.

When I turn javascript off it works in Firefox. Dunno about IE.

Why not abandon all that browser sniffing stuff and build a site that simply
works in all browsers?

--
Richard.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

"windandwaves" wrote in message
news:1183347202.013789.252000@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com.. .
> On Jul 2, 1:30 pm, "rf" wrote:
>> "windandwaves" wrote in message

>> Your menu is inside out. The language you present in (English) reads left
>> to
>> right.
>>
>> The thumbnails are very poor. Slice out an interesting bit of the image,
>> not
>> just the top right hand corner. Any thumbnail of a picture with sky in it
>> is
>> just blue. Hang on. Those are not thumbnails. You are sending me an
>> entire
>> 50K image and just ising the top left hand corner :-)
>
> The points above are a matter of style. I like it this way.....

1) The navigation totally confused me at first. Then I worked out that it is
inside out. Even then I habitually moved my mouse to the left of the menu
bar to get to the "start" of the site. Moving to the left to get to the
"end" of the site, that is the contact form, is not intuitive. I do *not*
consider myself to be a novice at computer stuff yet I am confused. What
will your viewer be?.

2) A totally blue square is not a thumbnail. It is a blue square.

You may like it this way but who are you building the site for? Given the
content I would say you should be building it for potential clients.

Never mine. Many times in the past you have stood on the "I like it this
way" soapbox :-)

--
Richard.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 3:46 pm, "rf" wrote:
> "windandwaves" wrote in message
>
> news:1183347089.918082.48930@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jul 2, 2:45 pm, dorayme wrote:
> >> In article
> >> ,
> >> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>
> >> > She meant ...
>
> >> Ahem... perhaps more accurate is "It meant ..."
>
> >> --
> >> dorayme
>
> > Hi Everyone
>
> > Thanks a million for your help. Fantastic. Much appreciated. I have
> > implemented a number of recommendations and the site is looking better
> > now! thank you.http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/that is.
>
> Nope :-).
>
> http://barefile.com.au/ssu.jpg- 61K *heavily* compressed.
>
> The pink is my background colour showing through. I don't know what the red
> is.
>
> Oddly it works fine in Windows Safari.
>
> When I turn javascript off it works in Firefox. Dunno about IE.
>
> Why not abandon all that browser sniffing stuff and build a site that simply
> works in all browsers?
>
> --
> Richard.

Hi Richard try refreshing it. It works fine for me now.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 3:53 pm, "rf" wrote:
> "windandwaves" wrote in message
>
> news:1183347202.013789.252000@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com.. .
>
> > On Jul 2, 1:30 pm, "rf" wrote:
> >> "windandwaves" wrote in message
> >> Your menu is inside out. The language you present in (English) reads left
> >> to
> >> right.
>
> >> The thumbnails are very poor. Slice out an interesting bit of the image,
> >> not
> >> just the top right hand corner. Any thumbnail of a picture with sky in it
> >> is
> >> just blue. Hang on. Those are not thumbnails. You are sending me an
> >> entire
> >> 50K image and just ising the top left hand corner :-)
>
> > The points above are a matter of style. I like it this way.....
>
> 1) The navigation totally confused me at first. Then I worked out that it is
> inside out. Even then I habitually moved my mouse to the left of the menu
> bar to get to the "start" of the site. Moving to the left to get to the
> "end" of the site, that is the contact form, is not intuitive. I do *not*
> consider myself to be a novice at computer stuff yet I am confused. What
> will your viewer be?.
>
> 2) A totally blue square is not a thumbnail. It is a blue square.
>
> You may like it this way but who are you building the site for? Given the
> content I would say you should be building it for potential clients.
>
> Never mine. Many times in the past you have stood on the "I like it this
> way" soapbox :-)

exactly - brilliantly put. lets say - i dont mind loosing a few
clients over a bit of originality....

> --
> Richard.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

thanks again for all your help!

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

"windandwaves" wrote in message
news:1183348781.350065.190500@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com.. .
> On Jul 2, 3:46 pm, "rf" wrote:
>> "windandwaves" wrote in message

>> > Thanks a million for your help. Fantastic. Much appreciated. I have
>> > implemented a number of recommendations and the site is looking better
>> > now! thank you.http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/that is.
>>
>> Nope :-).
>>
>> http://barefile.com.au/ssu.jpg- 61K *heavily* compressed.

> Hi Richard try refreshing it. It works fine for me now.

I tried refreshing it. Many times.

Clearing my cache did work but that is a little bit drastic :-)

IE6 is still glaringly red.

--
Richard.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

windandwaves schreef:
> On Jul 2, 3:46 pm, "rf" wrote:
>> "windandwaves" wrote in message
>>> Hi Everyone
>>> Thanks a million for your help. Fantastic. Much appreciated. I have
>>> implemented a number of recommendations and the site is looking better
>>> now! thank you.http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/that is.

>> Nope :-).
>>
>> http://barefile.com.au/ssu.jpg- 61K *heavily* compressed.
>>
>> The pink is my background colour showing through. I don't know what the red
>> is.
>>
>> Oddly it works fine in Windows Safari.
>>
>> When I turn javascript off it works in Firefox. Dunno about IE.
>>
>> Why not abandon all that browser sniffing stuff and build a site that simply
>> works in all browsers?
>>
>> --
>> Richard.
>
> Hi Richard try refreshing it. It works fine for me now.
>

I get the same results as Richard does.

You've got a major attitude problem, Nicolaas.
It shoudn't just work fine for you, it should work for everybody (at
least if your trying to sell your services).


quote from your site:
"Some people place hope in technology for solving their problems. We
believe that technology is never the solution - it can only be a part of
it."
unquote

Why don't you do this yourself? Get rid of the browsersniffing and build

a straightforward website.


quote from your site:
"Sunny Side Up promotes simplicity as the key to success in business.
Keeping it simple is actually harder than it looks - it involves plenty
of trial and error. [...] Sunny Side Up is all about innovative business
and thinking outside the square. "
unquote

If you promote simplicity, how come you're website is looking so bad....
Maybe your coding is not simple enough.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On 1 Jul, 22:08, windandwaves wrote:

> Please review my website:

XHTML 1.1 Why?!?

What's a JavaScript detectBrowser() function doing in there?

Put some margin around those images

Replace those tiny "grey blob" images with something big enough to be
visible and a bit more cherful.

How about some alt text on those images? How about _useful_ alt text?

Yellow on white text? For a page title? Haven't you heard of contrast?

This is the sort of graphic design (not specifically web design) that
encourages the view "standards compliance always looks boring". Where
did you learn graphic design? Gdansk?


Overall I'm disappointed. I've seen your posting address before, so
presumably you've had the chance to read the groups. Why ignore all of
its advice?

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

In article
<1183364400.160512.15980@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Andy Dingley wrote:

> On 1 Jul, 22:08, windandwaves wrote:
>
> > Please review my website:
>
>
> How about some alt text on those images? How about _useful_ alt text?

As the foremost expert around here on alt text*, I point out that
the text appears in lieu of the picture. If the picture is not
available, then it is not as useful as it could be for the user
of the web site to know to "click to enlarge, click to reduce".
Perhaps you might be interested in using "title" for this, this
way it could help folk be more curious.

*assisted, perhaps a little unfairly by my special alt text pills

--
dorayme

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 1 Jul, 22:08, windandwaves wrote:
>
> > Please review my website:
>
> XHTML 1.1 Why?!?
>
> What's a JavaScript detectBrowser() function doing in there?
>
> Put some margin around those images
>
> Replace those tiny "grey blob" images with something big enough to be
> visible and a bit more cherful.
>
> How about some alt text on those images? How about _useful_ alt text?
>
> Yellow on white text? For a page title? Haven't you heard of contrast?
Ha, if you thaught that was bad, take a look at it in IE6, it's even
werse.

>
> This is the sort of graphic design (not specifically web design) that
> encourages the view "standards compliance always looks boring". Where
> did you learn graphic design? Gdansk?
>
>
> Overall I'm disappointed. I've seen your posting address before, so
> presumably you've had the chance to read the groups. Why ignore all of
> its advice?
Maybe cause he just wanted to get his site listed better Google so he
posted the link to the NG.
--
Regards Chad. http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

windandwaves wrote:
> Hi Folk
>
> Please review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
>
> I am keen to hear your opinions.
>
> Much appreciate any comments.
>
> Thank you
>
> Nicolaas
>

* I don't like the font family.

* I don't like the orange and gray combination of colors.

* The list of links at the bottom is too huge.

* I see a scrollbar on Firefox even at 1280px width.

* I personally don't like the way "images on the right" getting enlarged
and removing the text beneath them.

* The images on the right are hiding some of the "widely spaced out"
text. Both are bad.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 4:15 pm, "rf" wrote:
> "windandwaves" wrote in message
>
> news:1183348781.350065.190500@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com.. .
>
> > On Jul 2, 3:46 pm, "rf" wrote:
> >> "windandwaves" wrote in message
> >> > Thanks a million for your help. Fantastic. Much appreciated. I have
> >> > implemented a number of recommendations and the site is looking better
> >> > now! thank you.http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/thatis.
>
> >> Nope :-).
>
> >>http://barefile.com.au/ssu.jpg-61K *heavily* compressed.
> > Hi Richard try refreshing it. It works fine for me now.
>
> I tried refreshing it. Many times.
>
> Clearing my cache did work but that is a little bit drastic :-)
>
> IE6 is still glaringly red.
>
> --
> Richard.

Hi Richard

Should work now. Sorry for the delay. IE6 - hmmmm, well, fixed now,
but who would use it?

Cheers

Nicolaas

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

In article
<1183414490.911346.144380@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
windandwaves wrote:

> On Jul 2, 4:15 pm, "rf"
> > IE6 is still glaringly red.
> >
> > --
> > Richard.
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Should work now. Sorry for the delay. IE6 - hmmmm, well, fixed now,
> but who would use it?
>

Who would use IE6?

2007
IE7
IE6
IE5
Fx
Moz
S
O
May
19.2%
38.1%
1.5%
33.7%
1.3%
1.5%
1.6%


How modern are you Kiwis these days? Perhaps you move faster than
the rest of the world?

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dorayme

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 7:30 pm, Rob wrote:
> windandwaves schreef:
>
>
>
[...........................]
> I get the same results as Richard does.
>
> You've got a major attitude problem, Nicolaas.

totally agree, but like the way I am.

> It shoudn't just work fine for you, it should work for everybody (at
> least if your trying to sell your services).

I think that if it works for my clients, that is good enough. Most of
my clients use Firefox of IE7. Lets keep it simple.

> quote from your site:
> "Some people place hope in technology for solving their problems. We
> believe that technology is never the solution - it can only be a part of
> it."
> unquote
>
> Why don't you do this yourself? Get rid of the browsersniffing and build
>
> a straightforward website.
>
> quote from your site:
> "Sunny Side Up promotes simplicity as the key to success in business.
> Keeping it simple is actually harder than it looks - it involves plenty
> of trial and error. [...] Sunny Side Up is all about innovative business
> and thinking outside the square. "
> unquote
>
> If you promote simplicity, how come you're website is looking so bad....
> Maybe your coding is not simple enough.

I am upgrading this now, that is the point of going to alt.html. I
have already implemented lots of good ideas presented in the post
above.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 8:20 pm, Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 1 Jul, 22:08, windandwaves wrote:
>
> > Please review my website:
>
> XHTML 1.1 Why?!?
>
> What's a JavaScript detectBrowser() function doing in there?

So I can make small adjustments for different browsers, using specific
css stylesheets. No hurt in having it.

>
> Put some margin around those images

What images? Not sure what you mean.

>
> Replace those tiny "grey blob" images with something big enough to be
> visible and a bit more cherful.

I like it the way it is so I will keep it that way. I like the
aesthetics. No point in arguing about that. Not everyone has the same
taste. I don't watch Hollywood and I don't go to Disney world. Many
do.

>
> How about some alt text on those images? How about _useful_ alt text?

I have not had time for that. Will do soon!

>
> Yellow on white text? For a page title? Haven't you heard of contrast?

Can you read it?

>
> This is the sort of graphic design (not specifically web design) that
> encourages the view "standards compliance always looks boring". Where
> did you learn graphic design? Gdansk?

Ha ha, I am not a graphic designer. But I like my website so lets
leave it at that.

>
> Overall I'm disappointed. I've seen your posting address before, so
> presumably you've had the chance to read the groups. Why ignore all of
> its advice?

I am ignoring design advice - I believe in freedom of expression, but
I will take on board technical advice.

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 8:37 pm, dorayme wrote:
> In article
> <1183364400.160512.15...@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> Andy Dingley wrote:
>
> > On 1 Jul, 22:08, windandwaves wrote:
>
> > > Please review my website:
>
> > How about some alt text on those images? How about _useful_ alt text?
>
> As the foremost expert around here on alt text*, I point out that
> the text appears in lieu of the picture. If the picture is not
> available, then it is not as useful as it could be for the user
> of the web site to know to "click to enlarge, click to reduce".
> Perhaps you might be interested in using "title" for this, this
> way it could help folk be more curious.

Yes, totally agree. There are 170 images, I have to enter all the
images alts one by one, so I need time to do this. The images are
only there for colour, a bit of mystery, I like it when you see just
sky. You have three blue boxes, with slightly different shades of
blue - I like that. Not much point arguing about that. I just like
it.

Thanks again for all your notes. You are cool!

>
> *assisted, perhaps a little unfairly by my special alt text pills
>
> --
> dorayme

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 2, 9:04 pm, Chaddy2222
wrote:
> Andy Dingley wrote:
> > On 1 Jul, 22:08, windandwaves wrote:
>
> > > Please review my website:
>
> > XHTML 1.1 Why?!?
>
> > What's a JavaScript detectBrowser() function doing in there?
>
> > Put some margin around those images
>
> > Replace those tiny "grey blob" images with something big enough to be
> > visible and a bit more cherful.
>
> > How about some alt text on those images? How about _useful_ alt text?
>
> > Yellow on white text? For a page title? Haven't you heard of contrast?
>
> Ha, if you thaught that was bad, take a look at it in IE6, it's even
> werse.
>
>
>
> > This is the sort of graphic design (not specifically web design) that
> > encourages the view "standards compliance always looks boring". Where
> > did you learn graphic design? Gdansk?
>
> > Overall I'm disappointed. I've seen your posting address before, so
> > presumably you've had the chance to read the groups. Why ignore all of
> > its advice?
>
> Maybe cause he just wanted to get his site listed better Google so he
> posted the link to the NG.

Good point. I may help, but more than anything, I wanted to get some
feedback. Much appreciated all the comments.

> --
> Regards Chad.http://freewebdesign.awardspace.biz

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

On Jul 3, 5:59 am, Animesh K wrote:
> windandwaves wrote:
> > Hi Folk
>
> > Please review my website:www.sunnysideup.co.nz.
>
> > I am keen to hear your opinions.
>
> > Much appreciate any comments.
>
> > Thank you
>
> > Nicolaas
>
> * I don't like the font family.

Hmmm, that happens.

>
> * I don't like the orange and gray combination of colors.

OK, most would probably say it is yellow and gray.

>
> * The list of links at the bottom is too huge.

What browser are you using. When you say huge, can you give me an
indication of actual size? In my FF, it is about 40pixels high.

>
> * I see a scrollbar on Firefox even at 1280px width.

I believe I fixed that problem. What version of FF are you using on
Mac or on PC?


>
> * I personally don't like the way "images on the right" getting enlarged
> and removing the text beneath them.

Point taken

>
> * The images on the right are hiding some of the "widely spaced out"
> text. Both are bad.

I am not sure what you mean.

Thanks for all your comments. Much appreciated.

Nicolaas

Re: review my website: www.sunnysideup.co.nz

In article
<1183415318.639701.112150@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
windandwaves wrote:

> On Jul 2, 8:37 pm, dorayme wrote:

> > If the picture is not
> > available, then it is not as useful as it could be for the user
> > of the web site to know to "click to enlarge, click to reduce".
> > Perhaps you might be interested in using "title" for this, this
> > way it could help folk be more curious.
>
> Yes, totally agree. There are 170 images, I have to enter all the
> images alts one by one, so I need time to do this. The images are
> only there for colour, a bit of mystery,

I understand this. And also the mystery bit and I like it. The
use of title in the link would perhaps spoil the mystery. href="" title="click to enlarge, click to reduce" alt="..."> This
brings up a little tool tip in many browsers with the text that
you put in the title.

About the alt text, when you get around to it (yes, rf, I did
take a couple of alt text pills) considering the mysterious
aspect, you could perhaps convey it by a slightly cryptic one:

alt="A morsel that gets meatier with a little bit of mousy
action"

This would nicely be a replacement for those unable or unwilling
to see images. You see, they would not see the morsel (the
thumbnail) and would not see the enlargement either. But there
would still be that ineffable sense of mystery conveyed. Even
more so. In fact, as these alt text pills are starting to take
stronger effect on me, I see that it may even be in your
interests to recommend that people do not have images turned on,
what about defaulting this situation via javascript and the spell
of mystery enhanced... no perhaps this is a bit silly. I will
from now on only take 1 alt text pill when discussing alt text.
>
> Thanks again for all your notes. You are cool!
>

That is true, I have just turned on another bar on the heater.

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dorayme