Website Port when SMTP is Needed

I have an intranet that also needs to send SMTP email from a form on the
site. I tried running the site on port 5556 because of interference with
other websites. But now, it doesn't want to send email. I assume this is
because I'm not running on port 80. Is this correct? Is there a way I can
run this site on something other than port 80 and still send SMTP email from
a form?

--
Brandon
http://www.presentationsdirect.com

Re: Website Port when SMTP is Needed

The web site port and SMTP service are completely not connected to one
another.

Set your site on whatever port you want, then forget about it.

In IIS, you have to do one of two things;

1. Run the SMTP service (set it up to accept mail, default upon install is
to accept mail from nowhere, you need to put in the allowed list) and then
use "localhost" as your server name.

2. OR, just use an outside SMTP server somewhere (your ISPs will probably
work)

Also completely left out of your question is what mechanism (cgi script, ASP
script, FP extensions, etc.) is sending the mail. Web pages dont send mail,
applications hooked up to them do.

"Brandon" wrote in message
news:eM8XpplwHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I have an intranet that also needs to send SMTP email from a form on the
>site. I tried running the site on port 5556 because of interference with
>other websites. But now, it doesn't want to send email. I assume this is
>because I'm not running on port 80. Is this correct? Is there a way I can
>run this site on something other than port 80 and still send SMTP email
>from a form?
>
> --
> Brandon
> http://www.presentationsdirect.com
>

Re: Website Port when SMTP is Needed

I'm using ASP to send email. It worked fine on another server running on
port 80 . . . but when I moved the site to a different server today and
tried to run it on port 5556 (just an unused port) . . . the email would not
send anymore. No other changes were made to the site, so I figured it was
the port number. And I can't test it on port 80 on the new server because
of other sites using port 80.

--
Brandon


".._.." <.._..@yourmom.mil> wrote in message
news:vWvki.36412$G23.8892@newsreading01.news.tds.net...
> The web site port and SMTP service are completely not connected to one
> another.
>
> Set your site on whatever port you want, then forget about it.
>
> In IIS, you have to do one of two things;
>
> 1. Run the SMTP service (set it up to accept mail, default upon install is
> to accept mail from nowhere, you need to put in the allowed list) and then
> use "localhost" as your server name.
>
> 2. OR, just use an outside SMTP server somewhere (your ISPs will probably
> work)
>
> Also completely left out of your question is what mechanism (cgi script,
> ASP script, FP extensions, etc.) is sending the mail. Web pages dont send
> mail, applications hooked up to them do.
>
> "Brandon" wrote in message
> news:eM8XpplwHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>I have an intranet that also needs to send SMTP email from a form on the
>>site. I tried running the site on port 5556 because of interference with
>>other websites. But now, it doesn't want to send email. I assume this is
>>because I'm not running on port 80. Is this correct? Is there a way I
>>can run this site on something other than port 80 and still send SMTP
>>email from a form?
>>
>> --
>> Brandon
>> http://www.presentationsdirect.com
>>
>
>

Re: Website Port when SMTP is Needed

As the previous poster mentioned - web sites (which serve requests over HTTP
to HTTP clients) have nothing to do with SMTP (which deliver messages using
SMTP)

ASP itself has not inbuilt ability to 'send mail' - it can create components
to send mail. Depending on which components you are using, it may either
generate text files that get dropped into the MS SMTP server pickup folder
(CDONTS) or may initiate an SMTP conversation with an SMTP server, just like
a regular email client would (CDOSYS, ASPMail, JMail etc).

What port your website runs on (to serve requests from HTTP clients) should
not affect the ability to send mail per se.

You need to tell us more about how you are generating and sending mail.

Cheers
Ken

"Brandon" wrote in message
news:%237y6qNmwHHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I'm using ASP to send email. It worked fine on another server running on
> port 80 . . . but when I moved the site to a different server today and
> tried to run it on port 5556 (just an unused port) . . . the email would
> not send anymore. No other changes were made to the site, so I figured it
> was the port number. And I can't test it on port 80 on the new server
> because of other sites using port 80.
>
> --
> Brandon
>
>
> ".._.." <.._..@yourmom.mil> wrote in message
> news:vWvki.36412$G23.8892@newsreading01.news.tds.net...
>> The web site port and SMTP service are completely not connected to one
>> another.
>>
>> Set your site on whatever port you want, then forget about it.
>>
>> In IIS, you have to do one of two things;
>>
>> 1. Run the SMTP service (set it up to accept mail, default upon install
>> is to accept mail from nowhere, you need to put in the allowed list) and
>> then use "localhost" as your server name.
>>
>> 2. OR, just use an outside SMTP server somewhere (your ISPs will probably
>> work)
>>
>> Also completely left out of your question is what mechanism (cgi script,
>> ASP script, FP extensions, etc.) is sending the mail. Web pages dont
>> send mail, applications hooked up to them do.
>>
>> "Brandon" wrote in message
>> news:eM8XpplwHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>I have an intranet that also needs to send SMTP email from a form on the
>>>site. I tried running the site on port 5556 because of interference with
>>>other websites. But now, it doesn't want to send email. I assume this
>>>is because I'm not running on port 80. Is this correct? Is there a way
>>>I can run this site on something other than port 80 and still send SMTP
>>>email from a form?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brandon
>>> http://www.presentationsdirect.com
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Website Port when SMTP is Needed

I'm using CDOSYS to send email in this ASP site.

--
Brandon


"Ken Schaefer" wrote in message
news:el%239YbpwHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> As the previous poster mentioned - web sites (which serve requests over
> HTTP to HTTP clients) have nothing to do with SMTP (which deliver messages
> using SMTP)
>
> ASP itself has not inbuilt ability to 'send mail' - it can create
> components to send mail. Depending on which components you are using, it
> may either generate text files that get dropped into the MS SMTP server
> pickup folder (CDONTS) or may initiate an SMTP conversation with an SMTP
> server, just like a regular email client would (CDOSYS, ASPMail, JMail
> etc).
>
> What port your website runs on (to serve requests from HTTP clients)
> should not affect the ability to send mail per se.
>
> You need to tell us more about how you are generating and sending mail.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> "Brandon" wrote in message
> news:%237y6qNmwHHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I'm using ASP to send email. It worked fine on another server running on
>> port 80 . . . but when I moved the site to a different server today and
>> tried to run it on port 5556 (just an unused port) . . . the email would
>> not send anymore. No other changes were made to the site, so I figured
>> it was the port number. And I can't test it on port 80 on the new server
>> because of other sites using port 80.
>>
>> --
>> Brandon
>>
>>
>> ".._.." <.._..@yourmom.mil> wrote in message
>> news:vWvki.36412$G23.8892@newsreading01.news.tds.net...
>>> The web site port and SMTP service are completely not connected to one
>>> another.
>>>
>>> Set your site on whatever port you want, then forget about it.
>>>
>>> In IIS, you have to do one of two things;
>>>
>>> 1. Run the SMTP service (set it up to accept mail, default upon install
>>> is to accept mail from nowhere, you need to put in the allowed list) and
>>> then use "localhost" as your server name.
>>>
>>> 2. OR, just use an outside SMTP server somewhere (your ISPs will
>>> probably work)
>>>
>>> Also completely left out of your question is what mechanism (cgi script,
>>> ASP script, FP extensions, etc.) is sending the mail. Web pages dont
>>> send mail, applications hooked up to them do.
>>>
>>> "Brandon" wrote in message
>>> news:eM8XpplwHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have an intranet that also needs to send SMTP email from a form on the
>>>>site. I tried running the site on port 5556 because of interference
>>>>with other websites. But now, it doesn't want to send email. I assume
>>>>this is because I'm not running on port 80. Is this correct? Is there
>>>>a way I can run this site on something other than port 80 and still send
>>>>SMTP email from a form?
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Brandon
>>>> http://www.presentationsdirect.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: Website Port when SMTP is Needed

Ok, so you are on a new port because the site is on a different server?

What is your SMTP server name in your CDOSYS setup? Remember, you said "no
changes were made to the site" which implies the mail server address is now
WRONG.

Can you ping that server from the web site server?

If yes, can you telnet to port 25 to the mail server? What does it say?

Anybody with any brains has a list of IPs that can send mail through their
SMTP server, you might not be on one of those IPs anymore and unable to send
mail as a result.



"Brandon" wrote in message
news:uxOgbKzwHHA.4800@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I'm using CDOSYS to send email in this ASP site.
>
> --
> Brandon
>
>
> "Ken Schaefer" wrote in message
> news:el%239YbpwHHA.600@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> As the previous poster mentioned - web sites (which serve requests over
>> HTTP to HTTP clients) have nothing to do with SMTP (which deliver
>> messages using SMTP)
>>
>> ASP itself has not inbuilt ability to 'send mail' - it can create
>> components to send mail. Depending on which components you are using, it
>> may either generate text files that get dropped into the MS SMTP server
>> pickup folder (CDONTS) or may initiate an SMTP conversation with an SMTP
>> server, just like a regular email client would (CDOSYS, ASPMail, JMail
>> etc).
>>
>> What port your website runs on (to serve requests from HTTP clients)
>> should not affect the ability to send mail per se.
>>
>> You need to tell us more about how you are generating and sending mail.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Ken
>>
>> "Brandon" wrote in message
>> news:%237y6qNmwHHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm using ASP to send email. It worked fine on another server running
>>> on port 80 . . . but when I moved the site to a different server today
>>> and tried to run it on port 5556 (just an unused port) . . . the email
>>> would not send anymore. No other changes were made to the site, so I
>>> figured it was the port number. And I can't test it on port 80 on the
>>> new server because of other sites using port 80.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brandon
>>>
>>>
>>> ".._.." <.._..@yourmom.mil> wrote in message
>>> news:vWvki.36412$G23.8892@newsreading01.news.tds.net...
>>>> The web site port and SMTP service are completely not connected to one
>>>> another.
>>>>
>>>> Set your site on whatever port you want, then forget about it.
>>>>
>>>> In IIS, you have to do one of two things;
>>>>
>>>> 1. Run the SMTP service (set it up to accept mail, default upon install
>>>> is to accept mail from nowhere, you need to put in the allowed list)
>>>> and then use "localhost" as your server name.
>>>>
>>>> 2. OR, just use an outside SMTP server somewhere (your ISPs will
>>>> probably work)
>>>>
>>>> Also completely left out of your question is what mechanism (cgi
>>>> script, ASP script, FP extensions, etc.) is sending the mail. Web
>>>> pages dont send mail, applications hooked up to them do.
>>>>
>>>> "Brandon" wrote in message
>>>> news:eM8XpplwHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I have an intranet that also needs to send SMTP email from a form on
>>>>>the site. I tried running the site on port 5556 because of
>>>>>interference with other websites. But now, it doesn't want to send
>>>>>email. I assume this is because I'm not running on port 80. Is this
>>>>>correct? Is there a way I can run this site on something other than
>>>>>port 80 and still send SMTP email from a form?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Brandon
>>>>> http://www.presentationsdirect.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>